A comprehensive look-back on Wayne Rooney's career

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The quote "He started as someone who would play anywhere for the team; now he will play anywhere to get into the team." is absolutely bang on.
 

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Always be a United legend for mine. Nothing he does now will change that. Continuously reinvented himself and often carried United on his back. Such a talent
 

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Brilliant read, sums him up perfectly.

I've never understood the sheer hate he gets from some on here, frustrations I get and disappointment too. He is a United legend not their greatest ever, 10 years ago we thought he might just have had a shout. If does take Sir Booby's record which I expect he will next season, he deserves it. His body is failing him and this summer needs to be his final with England, I doubt that it will be though he seems too stubborn for that.
 

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Brilliant read, sums him up perfectly.

I've never understood the sheer hate he gets from some on here, frustrations I get and disappointment too. He is a United legend not their greatest ever, 10 years ago we thought he might just have had a shout. If does take Sir Booby's record which I expect he will next season, he deserves it. His body is failing him and this summer needs to be his final with England, I doubt that it will be though he seems too stubborn for that.
Aye. The hatred for Rooney does go overboard. And one of my absolute hates are that there are some who seemingly worships someone like Ronaldo but can't wait for an opportunity to hate Rooney. Suppose that's a topic for another day though.

United legend for me. Doesn't mean I think he should still be an integral part of the team, mind.
 

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Aye. The hatred for Rooney does go overboard. And one of my absolute hates are that there are some who seemingly worships someone like Ronaldo but can't wait for an opportunity to hate Rooney. Suppose that's a topic for another day though.

United legend for me. Doesn't mean I think he should still be an integral part of the team, mind.
Hate is a strong word, but his awful performance is also on the same level of overboard.

He can play shit for 9mths, get a goal or two and people are rubbing the "see that!" on everyone.

I cant speak for anyone but myself, but I'm tired of having him in the squad and dragging us down, we have been having debates on his position for years and still dont know whether he's a 9,10,11,8 or 6 or 4 at his age of 30.

I dont care about him to be fair, he's just another mercenary for me with his contract bluff, it's all business from that point on. He doesnt perform and he should be the first to be ruthlessly culled, the way he ruthlessly taking us to the cleaner with his comment for a new contract.

We paid our part, he doesnt. Call it hate or logical business thinking the sooner he's sold to China the better
 

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The quote "He started as someone who would play anywhere for the team; now he will play anywhere to get into the team." is absolutely bang on.
That line stuck out. So true. He's been moved around cause he's no longer good enough in any position unlike earlier in his career when he was moved around cause he was very good in different positions.
 

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It feels like Rooney's United career should end like Bryan Robson's - club captain but not a first choice as younger players step up. He's got a contribution to make but not starting 40+ games a season.
Not sure Rooney will be happy with it but the Van Gaal and Hodgson mindset of he's captian and therefore must start when available has been counter-productive.
 

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Always be a United legend for mine. Nothing he does now will change that. Continuously reinvented himself and often carried United on his back. Such a talent
Aye. The hatred for Rooney does go overboard. And one of my absolute hates are that there are some who seemingly worships someone like Ronaldo but can't wait for an opportunity to hate Rooney. Suppose that's a topic for another day though.

United legend for me. Doesn't mean I think he should still be an integral part of the team, mind.
He's a legend only a loon would argue with that. But that doesn't mean one can't say he should be sold.
 

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Hate is a strong word, but his awful performance is also on the same level of overboard.

He can play shit for 9mths, get a goal or two and people are rubbing the "see that!" on everyone.

I cant speak for anyone but myself, but I'm tired of having him in the squad and dragging us down, we have been having debates on his position for years and still dont know whether he's a 9,10,11,8 or 6 or 4 at his age of 30.

I dont care about him to be fair, he's just another mercenary for me with his contract bluff, it's all business from that point on. He doesnt perform and he should be the first to be ruthlessly culled, the way he ruthlessly taking us to the cleaner with his comment for a new contract.

We paid our part, he doesnt. Call it hate or logical business thinking the sooner he's sold to China the better
I just feel that Roomey in the team is an indication that we haven't progressed. Simply because Rooney can't get into any top team in the world, so why should he be in ours?
 

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I didn't find that article worth reading tbh. It's fairly long and does little more than regurgitate what most people already know.

1. Rooney had incredible potential.
2. He didn't quite fulfil that potential, despite becoming an excellent player with a glittering career.
3. He's declined a lot in recent years.
 

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He's a legend only a loon would argue with that. But that doesn't mean one can't say he should be sold.
Hate is a strong word, but his awful performance is also on the same level of overboard.

We paid our part, he doesnt. Call it hate or logical business thinking the sooner he's sold to China the better
I don't disagree with either of that. (just edited your post Sky, to make it shorter). It is business, after all and when the ball was in Rooney's court, he held us ransom. So there should be no hard feelings if we need to rid of him.
 

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Spot on article. Hes been a good player for utd, but for me he is not a utd legend.
 

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Am I the only one who had rose tinted memories of his performance against France? From the video linked in that article (here: ) he should have been sent off at least once (straight legged shin breaker in the first half, elbow in the second half), lost the ball 50% of the times he touched it and constantly made the wrong decision with his passes. Also played two simple balls to Scholes about 10 yards too far when in threatening positions.

I recalled him being excellent that match, I guess just cause he was so exciting with the ball and trying things. The feeling that at any point he could burst past the defenders and create. Weird.

I think the narrative that Fergie ruined him looks worse and worse with time. The Rooney of 2008-11 was the most complete, and he'd never of gotten there if not for Ferguson. Young, wild Rooney wouldn't have been nearly as impactful. More fun to watch, but not as dangerous a footballer.
 

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Well, he had an angry face on, ran around a lot, put in a few aggressive tackles and wouldn't let Makelele touch him on his face. The kind of showing any England player would be praised for, let alone a teenager in his first international tournament. Never mind the bad passes he made and the erratic first touches.

The way he lost the ball at 4:12. :lol:
 

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For hammering Rooney the way you do you fundamentally admit to being spoilt cnuts.
 

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5:06, easy to forget what kind of player he once was.
Bloody hell. It's been so long since we've seen that. I'd say he's completely changed as a player ever since Ronaldo left. That blitz of acceleration Rooney had - he misses that so much.
 

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Absolutely fantastic player. Moments like the FA Cup show that.

In years to come we will all be telling our children about how good he was.
 

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Am I the only one who had rose tinted memories of his performance against France? From the video linked in that article (here: ) he should have been sent off at least once (straight legged shin breaker in the first half, elbow in the second half), lost the ball 50% of the times he touched it and constantly made the wrong decision with his passes. Also played two simple balls to Scholes about 10 yards too far when in threatening positions.

I recalled him being excellent that match, I guess just cause he was so exciting with the ball and trying things. The feeling that at any point he could burst past the defenders and create. Weird.

I think the narrative that Fergie ruined him looks worse and worse with time. The Rooney of 2008-11 was the most complete, and he'd never of gotten there if not for Ferguson. Young, wild Rooney wouldn't have been nearly as impactful. More fun to watch, but not as dangerous a footballer.
He looks so light and quick in that video.
 

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Fergie was right. It can't be said enough.
 

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I don't disagree with either of that. (just edited your post Sky, to make it shorter). It is business, after all and when the ball was in Rooney's court, he held us ransom. So there should be no hard feelings if we need to rid of him.
and to add he publicly questioned the quality of players around him at the time. Now he is the weak link, what goes around should come around.
 

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He brought a lot of the criticism on himself. He spoiled his relationship with Utd on two occasions and for me personally he became just another player after that.
 

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Rooney holding the club and SAF to ransom over his contract and threatening to leave on a Bosman (to City it was rumoured nonetheless) has left a massive stain on his reputation. I have never seen such a humbled SAF as in that presser about the whole ordeal.
 

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and to add he publicly questioned the quality of players around him at the time. Now he is the weak link, what goes around should come around.
Yeah, he demanded to be paid as one of the top players in the world and openly questioned the quality of the players around him. He's only got himself to blame when people turn on him for not living up to those standards. Legend or not, he chose through sheer greed the standard by which he is to be judged and then utterly failed to get anywhere near that standard.
 

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It feels like Rooney's United career should end like Bryan Robson's - club captain but not a first choice as younger players step up. He's got a contribution to make but not starting 40+ games a season.
Not sure Rooney will be happy with it but the Van Gaal and Hodgson mindset of he's captian and therefore must start when available has been counter-productive.
Robson didn't become that type of player before the 92/93 season, when he was 35/36, at 30 he was still the star player. That's the thing with Rooney, he's not old, it's just that he's been around for so long because he was already a star at the age of 18, if not 17 when he scored his first goal for England.
 

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Robson didn't become that type of player before the 92/93 season, when he was 35/36, at 30 he was still the star player. That's the thing with Rooney, he's not old, it's just that he's been around for so long because he was already a star at the age of 18, if not 17 when he scored his first goal for England.
I know Robson didn't decline until he was older, but the comparison still stands. Rooney is as effective as a 35 year old Robson (or 38/39 year old Giggs for that matter). He should stay but his role in the squad should be reduced in my opinion.

I'd be amazed if Jose declares him an automatic choice, like other managers have done.
 

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The footage against France is brilliant. He had what so many young players today lack....balls and aggression. That body shouldn't have worked like it did. He was so good at such a young age and I think that's why some find it hard to let go.

It's a shame that he didn't really fulfill that potential. He stopped using his left foot for some reason and clearly he could have looked after himself better. Not so much the smoking but a physique like his needs constant attention at this level.
 

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Hate is a strong word, but his awful performance is also on the same level of overboard.

He can play shit for 9mths, get a goal or two and people are rubbing the "see that!" on everyone.

I cant speak for anyone but myself, but I'm tired of having him in the squad and dragging us down, we have been having debates on his position for years and still dont know whether he's a 9,10,11,8 or 6 or 4 at his age of 30.

I dont care about him to be fair, he's just another mercenary for me with his contract bluff, it's all business from that point on. He doesnt perform and he should be the first to be ruthlessly culled, the way he ruthlessly taking us to the cleaner with his comment for a new contract. Yep, while others

We paid our part, he doesnt. Call it hate or logical business thinking the sooner he's sold to China the better
First, don't remember anyone rubbing "see that" on others when he would score, even people who would praise him for something would do that moderately, so you've just made that up, but carry on.

Second, he's mercenery who plays for money while rest of the players play out of love for United? Keane demanded significant pay rise, Cristiano was a slave for a while, but Rooney is mercenery, others plays for kind word and peanuts, yea right.

It's hate, it doesn't have anything with buisness. He's clearly passed it, doesn't deserve treatment he had from LVG, would be best for the club to sell him, that's so plain obvious, but you portray him as some kind of villain, not someone who greatly contributed to Uniteds past achivements.
 

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He brought a lot of the criticism on himself. He spoiled his relationship with Utd on two occasions and for me personally he became just another player after that.
This.

Yeah, he demanded to be paid as one of the top players in the world and openly questioned the quality of the players around him. He's only got himself to blame when people turn on him for not living up to those standards. Legend or not, he chose through sheer greed the standard by which he is to be judged and then utterly failed to get anywhere near that standard.
And this.
 

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First, don't remember anyone rubbing "see that" on others when he would score, even people who would praise him for something would do that moderately, so you've just made that up, but carry on.

Second, he's mercenery who plays for money while rest of the players play out of love for United? Keane demanded significant pay rise, Cristiano was a slave for a while, but Rooney is mercenery, others plays for kind word and peanuts, yea right.

It's hate, it doesn't have anything with buisness. He's clearly passed it, doesn't deserve treatment he had from LVG, would be best for the club to sell him, that's so plain obvious, but you portray him as some kind of villain, not someone who greatly contributed to Uniteds past achivements.
Keane ronaldo didn't love united, but as a mercenary they did their job. Rooney didnt. He's getting the kings ransom for a squire job.

He didn't love united, united dont love him. If god forbid we cant afford his salary he'll feck off to the highest bidder, no hard feeling. But the day he fails he job no hard feeling if we turned to another mercenary.

He got paid for his contributions handsomely. The rest is sentimental, he doesn't work for free all this year.
 

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Definitely a sense that he could've been so much more.

He's played so many games and scored so many goals but I still can't definitively say what his best position is.
 

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Rooney holding the club and SAF to ransom over his contract and threatening to leave on a Bosman (to City it was rumoured nonetheless) has left a massive stain on his reputation. I have never seen such a humbled SAF as in that presser about the whole ordeal.
Nonsense. Fergie is a ruthless manager and would have sold him without a seconds hesitation if not for the fact that we needed him at that point more than he needed us. Fergie put on a stunning performance in that presser to get him to stay. He could have easily handled it behind the scenes but he managed it spectacularly in that presser.
 

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Why do some think Rooney is not a legend? He might have not lived up to his scary potential but he's still going to be the clubs all time top scorer. I find it laughable that the transfer requests are an excuse people use to slam him. This forum seems to have no issues whatsoever with Keane and Rio doing their nonsense and our Legendary Portugese who felt he's enslaved at United and behaved atrociously all summer and you know, actually left the club.
 

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He's a legend,more for his incredible stats that will stand the test of time,but that 2010 lost him an emotional connection with a lot of fans that He can never get back. It was having a go at the club that went too far. Fergie never forgot that imo.

Someone like Ole for example has scored much less goals,but is much more loved and less divisive amongst the fanbase.

Hopefully he breaks the record and leaves at the end of next season.

I feel like he could go back to Everton . His presence at Duncan Ferguson's testimonial was simply testing the waters. He would be a great for their brand too.