And Rakitic, Iniesta, Vidal, Kroos, Marchisio and others. In my opinion, Pogba is in the same bracket than Isco while he has the potential to be world class, he isn't there yet. Now, I would still take him for 120m that's a lot of money, probably not a fair value but Pogba at United means more than money.
Set of players we can buy for €120m - would you still want Pogba?
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Completely disagree. Vidal is probably the same level, Iniesta is second to none when he is on top form (but he isn't always in top form now). Rakitic and Kroos, nope. Marchisio? You are having a laugh there.
You could buy the version of Pogba that Fergie let go approx 166 times
Don't take me wrong, I am not criticizing Kante. All I am saying is that there's a massive gap between the big boys and the 'medium/small' clubs which needs to be taken in consideration. Hence why Fellaini, Schniederlin and co struggled while Philip Neville, Foster and Howard did so well with smaller clubs.
In my opinion we have been compromising in CM for far too long by sticking/buying has beens (Giggs, Scholes, Bastian), relying on average talent while hoping for them to step up (Cleverley, Ando etc) and buying the flavour of the season (Schneiderlin, Fellaini etc). Its time to step up. SAF's dynasty relied on the likes of Ince, Keane, Robson, Scholes, Keane and Carrick. We need that sort of backbone back
It was just the idea of getting them both this summer for the same money as Pogba that seemed naive to me. 50m pounds, for them both, in this window? It was definitely worth a chuckle.
you're so technical. witcho technical ass.....
I meant there was 20 mil appearance based fee. If he is doing so so, he would cost 60 mil = that poster's valuation of Verrati.
If Sanchez can't even make enough appearance to trigger the appearance fee then he must be injured a lot or stink up the place. Bayern had to pay 40mil up front anyways.
Price difference between Verrati vs uncertain potential can't be 20 mil in this market?!
Our only Plan A should only be Pogba or Greizmann
Plan B should be Matic, Draxler etc
Our team still lacks a world class superstar coming into their prime and Madrid/Barca have shown that if you're willing to pay big for the likes of Suarez/Bale/Ronaldo then sometimes you can end up with a player who can win many games on their own....the risk is often very much worth the crazy outlay
Plan B should be Matic, Draxler etc
Our team still lacks a world class superstar coming into their prime and Madrid/Barca have shown that if you're willing to pay big for the likes of Suarez/Bale/Ronaldo then sometimes you can end up with a player who can win many games on their own....the risk is often very much worth the crazy outlay
I never get comments like this. It makes no sense whatsoever. These two are completely different players. If Mourinho believes he needs Pogba, and fails to sign him, then Griezmann is not even close to a logical alternative to Pogba.
Didn't we make that statement when we bought di Maria and loaned Falcao? Statements with substance are made on the field, not in the transfer market.
Wrong. The net spend for 2 seasons before this was £118m. Spending €120m on Pogba, will see this summer's transfer bill come to £30 + £26 + £102.42 = £158.42m. The wage bill has also been hiked by ~ £745k/week = £39m/year.
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even if he done half what he done last season would be a massive improvement on what we had at RW last season, cant see him repeating that as you say but can see him having another good season.
Yes, and? What do we achieve with that, respect?
We are getting £140m from a TV deal + £75m from adidas ANNUALLY.
That statement was with LVG and it failed as did the manager. New manager, new statement.
If £100 was all we had - maybe not. But that is not all we have. And we need to offload 2-3 players if we also sign Pogba, as we otherwise will have close to 30 players who are fighting for a starting-Place. So we can easily raise £30-40 million
As long as we don't have financial issues - we should go for the best. Pogba could easily be the best - and he is in a position where we are the weakest. So sure - sign him up if we can.
As long as we don't have financial issues - we should go for the best. Pogba could easily be the best - and he is in a position where we are the weakest. So sure - sign him up if we can.
For that kind of money - I'd take Verratti or Griezmann(each). However I'm not sure either of them will want to come, or in Verratti's case he might even be valued for more than what Pogba is - he's on a long term contract, seems happy there and for sure PSG don't need the money.
Pogba is not worth the numbers touted, but if we want to get a player of his caliber we have to overpay to compensate last 3 years and no CL this one.
Pogba is not worth the numbers touted, but if we want to get a player of his caliber we have to overpay to compensate last 3 years and no CL this one.
Although I don't think we need a hugely marketable player THIS season, and the £100m is quite scary, given his marketability and what it might mean fort future signings it could be worth it. If he flops though it could also be 80m or so down the drain. Scary stuff! But on paper at least, it gives us one of the best XI's in the world, with a great blend of youth and experience, dynamism and pace, technique and athleticism
For both? No way!
We most certainly have. It is just really big. City however, I have my doubts
What is Griezmann's release clause these days? I'd imagine it's around 100m.
Out of that age bracket the only 4 that should be around that are Verratti, Alaba, Griezmann and Neymar.
Out of that age bracket the only 4 that should be around that are Verratti, Alaba, Griezmann and Neymar.
I, personally, don't think Pogba is worth £250k/week. Not on what I've seen of his play. Bastian, Rooney, Mata, Young, Fellaini are certainly not worth their pay either. This bring in stars approach, pay them star wages does not work when they put in middling performances. I agree we need better midfielders, but the prudent approach might see us sell all the current midfield. Bring in 3 very good midfielders and promote youth to fill injuries.
Kroos, Kante and.... someone else...?
I would.much rather two or three €40 million players than pogba alone.
I would.much rather two or three €40 million players than pogba alone.
Where has this no budget come from?
Yeah bring him in, if we can afford it I can't see any problem. Yeah, we might get some stick from our rival supporters but I'm pretty sure we're gonna get the last laugh. And to be honest, the lad seemed to love it here, and with Mourinho here (and no Scholes and Rafael in his way this time) I'm sure he fancy coming home.
We haven't seen the best of Schneiderlin at all but equally he's been misused pretty much every time he got a game. I don't see him as the holding player, he's more of a energetic box to box midfielder.
As for wanting Pogba. I do, I'm just not sure we couldn't improve the team with £100m more with spending it elsewhere.
That being said, I've no idea who I'd spend the money on and midfield is an area which again does need some more quality. With either ageing players (Carrick, Basti) or ones that aren't very good (Fellaini) that we have at the moment. Not to mention we've not seen the best of Herrera and the aforementioned Schneiderlin. Although I would like them to be given another chance under a more sensible manager.
If Jose really sees Pogba as a important piece to his vision then I say go for it. Even if it does cost us £100m.
Kroos for 40 million euros? No chance.
It's an unfounded, widely repeated, statement to back up the misconception that it doesn't matter what we spend on one player. The phrase, "Why do you care? It isn't your money." will probably be used in the same sentence.
There's no way Madrid will let Kroos go for that fee. He was class for them last season and he's having a good Euros.
Some of the posts on here are way off, the transfer market is a different place now. I can't think of a star player that we can sign other than Pogba.
Some of the posts on here are way off, the transfer market is a different place now. I can't think of a star player that we can sign other than Pogba.
There is no doubt that Pogba would be a very good signing, but like others have said - for that kind of money we should be signing a better player than Pogba. The likes of Barca and Real Madrid have signed far more productive players for less money so we should be able to.
Arguable but ultimately I'd sign Pogba over Niguez. His potential ceiling is unknown, Pogba could be as good as he wants to be.
Honestly, it depends what we're going to do with him. If we sign Pogba for a world-record fee, there has to be a clear plan of how we're going to get the best out of him (both on and off the pitch), above all else. Rooney can no longer be the main man.
I don't care what anyone says about di Maria, the two biggest reasons why he failed here were gross mismanagement and the lack of any plan or direction when integrating him into the team. We can't afford to let anything like that happen again with Pogba.
If nothing changes in that respect, we might as well just buy three or four players to strengthen the squad instead.
I don't care what anyone says about di Maria, the two biggest reasons why he failed here were gross mismanagement and the lack of any plan or direction when integrating him into the team. We can't afford to let anything like that happen again with Pogba.
If nothing changes in that respect, we might as well just buy three or four players to strengthen the squad instead.
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Don't mind Pogba, he should bring some x-factor.
But if I could choose a crop of players for an equivalent amount of money, I'll take a punt on: Fabinho, Weigl, Kante, Mahrez.
Some pl winning quality, a decent RB option, and an understudy for Carrick.
But if I could choose a crop of players for an equivalent amount of money, I'll take a punt on: Fabinho, Weigl, Kante, Mahrez.
Some pl winning quality, a decent RB option, and an understudy for Carrick.
Do you really think Draxler, Kante, Payet are players like Pogba? .. I dont want to talk about Payet cause he is 30 soon, Kante had one good season and Draxler is more used on the wing, so none of those players are fiting in Mourinhos system.
I do agree that 100mil is a crazy number, but you wont get a player good as Pogba under 70mil, so why not and pay the rest 30 mils for a world class MC which we desperate need.
I do agree that 100mil is a crazy number, but you wont get a player good as Pogba under 70mil, so why not and pay the rest 30 mils for a world class MC which we desperate need.
Kroos is untouchable. Kante decides himself where he wants to go - probably not us.
People really have a hard time facing the fact that Pogba is one of the few top midfielders around that is available. Kroos, Veratti, etc, just forget about it, they would cost 150m +.
I mentioned time ago that I hope we don't spend all summer chasing Pogba to end up with an average midfielder.
We could have bought Krychowiak, Gundogan and Pjanic with 120m (and even one more).
Verrati would be great but I think he will stay in PSG.
Maybe I would buy Kante, Kroos and Draxler for that money in order to have something like this:
This could be the last season of players like Carrick, Schweinsteiger, Valencia, Young and even Zlatan. So next summer we would need to spend in quality replacements.
We could have bought Krychowiak, Gundogan and Pjanic with 120m (and even one more).
Verrati would be great but I think he will stay in PSG.
Maybe I would buy Kante, Kroos and Draxler for that money in order to have something like this:
Zlatan
Martial Mkhitaryan Draxler
Kroos Kante
IMO we still need a top midfielder, a CB and maybe a young winger to rotate in our attack. But if we just sign Pogba, it would be amazing. He could stay with us or maybe he would like to go to Barca/Madrid in 3 or 4 years. In that case, we would recover the 120m.Martial Mkhitaryan Draxler
Kroos Kante
This could be the last season of players like Carrick, Schweinsteiger, Valencia, Young and even Zlatan. So next summer we would need to spend in quality replacements.
So, a 1-season wonder, a player that is more likely to stay at real madrid or leave for City, someone who felt it was too much pressure at Schalke, someone with dodgy knees that has already chosen City and 2 more nobodies.
No thx.
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I agree with the ones saying we should get 1 absolute worldclass Player rather than 2 or 3 "very good" ones.
Although if there was a Chance of us getting e.g. Koke and Griezmann instead I would think about it. However, I guess 120 Mio EUR might not be enough.
Although if there was a Chance of us getting e.g. Koke and Griezmann instead I would think about it. However, I guess 120 Mio EUR might not be enough.
Question is who are these players we can acquire?