These throw-away excuses always makes me laugh. "It's alright lads ... you just 'under-performed'" ... maybe that's what LvG told the United squad when he took over from Moyes.
Isn't this simplistic thinking? If improvement has been this linear, then there's no way Leicester could have won the league. You don't have any if in your post, like this is a certainty to happen!
27 league goals in 32 matches as a backup of Kane. I think it's a good choice, you need a good backup as compete in CL and league are definitely tougher. Dier played an important role in Porch system last season so Wanyama signing might be a vital to cover Dier if he is injured.
If you're going to attempt analysis, you might try and make a better fist of it than this.
But the 40 points rule still pretty much intact. Many team teams fight out in survival battle the same way.
Oh yeah I agree with that, I don't think I conveyed myself well. I think the top teams have gotten weaker, but I think a lot of the mid table teams have gotten a bit better (West Ham, Southampton). I still think it's useless to compare point tallies over seasons though, as the dynamics of the league does change.
Straw man argument. You're moving the goal posts and arguing something entirely different. I won't get hung up on this, and I'm not gonna start up a debate on an entirely new topic to what I'm stating, which is that Tottenham can't compete in the transfer market with Arsenal and Chelsea. If a big name player, a 'top talent', signs in London, he's not going to your lot. Does that imply that Tottenham players can't outperform other players? Of course not.
Hence the "keep it tight and hope for a miracle" comment. It's the same with United; we weren't great defensively, but we employed tactics that are conducive to not conceding.
That comment was in reference to Alli, hence the "2 players who can score".
Dier, Walker, Rose & Dembele are mid table fodder. Alderweireld, like your other defenders look much better because of the system you employ.
My argument is that Spurs are a team with one great player (Kane) and one player who has been on a massive hot streak for several months (Alli). The rest of the team are mediocre players elevated by having a great player in front of them, just like Henderson, Sterling & Sturridge all suddenly became top class players when Suarez was playing well, but returned to normalcy once he left.
You don't rate Eriksen or Lloris?
Alderweireld was great at Southampton too. Dier as a defensive mid is definitely far from mid table fodder, there's a reason he's one of the few English players to come out of the Euros with any credit. Lloris is a brilliant keeper, among the top 4 in the prem imo. Vertonghen is among the best CB's in the league. You say Alli is on a 'hot streak', but I doubt you've seen much of him before he played for Tottenham so how do you it's a hot streak? Eriksen is a really good playmaker, for what it's worth I prefer him to Mata (though I place him behind Miki).
I think it comes down to this, they were lucky last season bar a few injuries here and there (though Vertonghen missed a lot of the second half of the season, Wimmer actually did well from what I saw) so they'll be hoping they can try and keep their strongest 11 on the pitch. Though I think they've added some depth by bringing in Wanyama to cover/compete in CM and Janssen to do the same in the striking positions.
Your rating of some of our players is laughable frankly. It's your opinion and fair enough but to say the likes of Dembele, Dier and Alderwiereld are 'mid table fodder' is ridiculous.
Lloris is a good keeper, albeit quite overrated in my view. Eriksen in my opinion is the definition of average, he'll score a few great goals (usually set pieces) and then will go a dozen games doing nothing.
Dier is basically Cheick Tioté playing in a better team. He has no discernable abilities apart from being somewhat busy and athletic. Alli played for MK Dons before Spurs so I'm not sure you can take much from that. Verthonghen and Alderweireld in my opinion benefit from their system as much as anything else. They're decent but not better than other mid table defenders like Shawcross, Reid or Jagielka. Erikson as above is severely overrated, Mata is twice the player.
Lloris is definitely not overrated. He has got a genuine claim to be the third best goalkeeper in the league. Joe Hart is overrated. Also, Eriksen is anything but average, he is a very good & talented player.
Tottenham have no chance of competing for the title, they will be competing for 4th spot. So overrated last season and couldn't even finish above a poor Arsenal side.
Janssen the Dutch striker from AZ.
The point is that Spurs currently don't especially need to compete with Arsenal and Chelski in the transfer market. This is because we are successfully developing youth/young players, have a high quality scouting/transfer negotiation system (and no, before you jump in, it's not perfect), and know that there are very good players (and prospects) out there who don't have 'big names' and thus won't involve big fees and high wages.
Gotze would be a great signing for Spurs imo. He's played wide in his career so could replace Lamela, he'd give cover for Kane and would also provide competition for the AM slot. He'd be going to the right Manager too because Poch would get his fitness back and he'd be in a young team and most would see him as a leader. He'd have a point to prove after failing at Bayern. Could be really good business for Spurs and more importantly for Gotze.
Spurs will be in the mix, I think some people think they will just go away and that won't happen.Total Shots 15/16 (per game)
- Tottenham 17.3
- Liverpool 16.6
- Manchester City 16.2
- Arsenal 15.1
- West Ham 14.7
- Chelsea 13.8
Total Shots In Penalty Area 15/16 (per game)
- Arsenal 9.5
- Manchester City 8.9
- Tottenham 8.5
- Liverpool 8.1
- Southampton 7.9
- Leicester 7.6
Shots On Target 15/16 (per game)
- Tottenham 6.6
- Arsenal 5.6
- Manchester City 5.5
- Liverpool 5.3
- West Ham 4.9
- Leicester 4.7
Goals Scored 15/16
- Manchester City 71
- Tottenham 68
- Leicester 67
- West Ham 64
- Arsenal 62
- Liverpool 62
Key Passes 15/16
- Tottenham 501
- Liverpool 497
- Manchester City 479
- Arsenal 469
- West Ham 427
- Chelsea 404
"Mid-table fodder" and (besides Alli and Kane) "the rest of the team are mediocre" ... you're not doing yourself any favours with such silly statements.
Most people in here are baiting GlastonSpur, it's the same with every Tottenham thread. Personally i'd just threadban posters like Finneh.
Oh right.... Is he that easy to wind up?
Pretty much this. 2016 was a bad season for United and City but both clubs only finished 4 points behind Tottenham who had a great season according to pretty much everyone, so to be in the top 4 they will have to improve while it's perfectly possible it's not going to be easy and they are not favorites for the top 4.
Some people find it amusing to bait him because Glaston likes to defend Spurs (obviously given he's a Spurs fan). So they come out with all kinds of wild shit and it goes unchallenged half the time, in the old days of the Caf such posts would get ridiculed and the wums would slink away. But modern Caf encourages such behavior because the majority of the time people don't want to get warnings/banned for insulting other members.Oh right.... Is he that easy to wind up?
There does seem to be a few wums in here. They seem to get more enjoyment out of piss taking than talking about their teams new player, tactics or current news.
It's as bad a rawk and bluemoon sometimes and the shit they get for their comments.
I must admit I do have to read my posts a few times before I posts for fear of over the top criticism. I feel I'm relatively fair with my posts but I check to make sure it won't be taken the wrong way. It's a bit sad actually.
My opinion is that the Premier League is a very different beast to what it was even 4 years ago. With Chelsea, Liverpool and United all struggling lately it's narrowed the gap to the mid table teams who are now capable of attracting excellent players due to high wages and high fees that they can now afford.
Now that's a post!
