Come on Robbie, we both know racism (negrito) is a misunderstood term. Back in Uruguay, they also call players a new manager discards and makes them train seperate to the first team squad....you guessed it....negritos!
Rummenigge: Some players may think about it in future, to join a club like this.
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Sorry I missed this. Just to explain, the 'dressing room snitch' made these claims in an article bashing LVG after he was sacked (this was widely reported). This same report of Bastian is still being used today and that is why I use it as a reference. And if it turns out Bastian is also leaking - then he'll be on my shit list as well. I just don't take kindly to having anything discussed publicly, whether it's football or otherwise...
For what it's worth, I want Mourinho to succeed of course, but I fear he's got foot in mouth disease at the worst times.
I'm the same tbh. Wasn't my first choice when Fergie retired but pleased to have him after Moyes/Vangle nightmares. Hs track record of picking fights with all and sundry makes him falling out with someone so quickly a bit of a worry. Especially if you're worried that he's the sort of permanently damaged goods (and that is something I worry about) who will pick fights with anyone, over anything. Feck it, though. BFS was clearly unfit last season, so I'm willing to believe he's been swinging the lead and that's the main reason he's been ostracised. The alternative is just too depressing to consider.For what it's worth, I want Mourinho to succeed of course, but I fear he's got foot in mouth disease at the worst times.
Yes I know....
If he has handled it wrong though, then the club need to lay down the law with him right now and don't let things get out of hand. Rummenigge is far from one of my favourite people - but he is quite powerful - and there's no reason for United and Bayern to fall out over this - you never know what might happen in the future and you might need a favour from your colleagues (in any industry). If Mourinho can't do it, then Ed or someone diplomatic needs to intervene and make sure things are put to bed in a satisfactory manner so both us and Basti can move on with some dignity. It's not the getting rid of Basti - it's the way we do it.
I'm not sure about that. If Mourinho is going to succeed at United we need to get that siege mentality back that Fergie created and Jose has proven excellent at doing in the past. Everyone hates us and we don't care. I couldn't give a toss about cordial relations with Bayern and Rumenigge is a serial moaner. Feck them and feck him. None of this is worth Mourinho and the United board falling out at this early stage in his United career. Far more important that he gets unstinting support from above. Even if he could have handled this better.
why are there even 10 pages off discussion on this?!
Our manager deemed BFS outside his requirements: a player who did not deliver the requirements he was signed for and has contributed nothing since he joined. He is of an age that means he can't be included in medium term planning. In fact, we are signing the world's most expensive ever player to play in his position.
BFS has no emotional connection to the region, the club or the fans: we've paid him plenty for doing nothing and owe him nothing. Any United fan giving Mourinho a hard time about this can do one ... those comments come from an already existing anti Mourinho agenda and bias.
If Rummenigge is so concerned, he can offer BFS a job on the same pay back in Munich.
Our manager deemed BFS outside his requirements: a player who did not deliver the requirements he was signed for and has contributed nothing since he joined. He is of an age that means he can't be included in medium term planning. In fact, we are signing the world's most expensive ever player to play in his position.
BFS has no emotional connection to the region, the club or the fans: we've paid him plenty for doing nothing and owe him nothing. Any United fan giving Mourinho a hard time about this can do one ... those comments come from an already existing anti Mourinho agenda and bias.
If Rummenigge is so concerned, he can offer BFS a job on the same pay back in Munich.
Achtung.
Yes! As fans, we are desperate to admire our players and always give them the benefit of doubt. BFS has failed to make any impression at all. Thats his fault and can only be down to the way he has conducted himself. He has done nothing on or off the pitch to make me feel anything for him.
my thoughts exactly, couldn't have said it better.
Rummenigge is just a stupid hypocrite.
Mourinho has the best interest of the club at heart.
Its that simple.
Trust the man lads.
Its that simple.
Trust the man lads.
Whatever the f is going on behind the scenes with Basti - outwardly he is carrying himself well imo. He posted a pic of himself at OT yesterday saying good to be back there and this morning wishing Tony V a happy birthday.
Do hope someone asks Mou or the club directly what is going on with Schweinsteiger at the next presser.
Do hope someone asks Mou or the club directly what is going on with Schweinsteiger at the next presser.
Funny how depay and rojo are in Mourinho's plan when Schweinsteiger is not because he's old.
how do you know this?
If he's being a disruptive influence and/or not trying then send him to the reserves after a month or so, but it seems like he's been put out from day one. It's ridiculous.
Opportunism by Bayern. They see us (and the PL in general) as potential competition again. Why else "warn off" players from joining us in the future? The entire footy universe knows we're about to drop a bombshell with the Pogba signing, so this is a way to take some shine off that. As others have said, Bayern's done similar and could easily rectify things by re-signing him if they're that bothered. It's just politics
Was Rummenige the fella caught trying to smuggle all those Rolex watches (bribes) in?
Bayern and Rummennigge seems obsessed with United. After the Muller bid last year they spent ages speaking about that too. How we treat players at our club, especially those who are being paid a fortune after they let him go on the cheap, is none of their business.
Because there's nothing other to suggest that depay and rojo deserve a place in this team when Schweinsteiger doesn't. Are they better footballer? Did they play well last season?
Do they have better career than Schweinsteiger? Do they suit to mourinho's tactic?
Nothing. Schweinsteiger didn't even get a chance to train with the 1st team. It's a joke.
Without knowing for sure you get the feeling Bastian has given Mourinho a reason to question his commitment.
none of us has the information to the dossiers on all these players. How the club is managed is not an open book and neither should it be.
Mourinho has said the only thing that matters is Manchester United. I am prepared to believe that. He obviously has information none of us is privy to.
That does not mean that Bastian is a bad guy. He just is not part of the manager's plan.
That means absolutely nothing!
Why are people still bringing that up? What he did with Bayern and Germany means feck all for Utd in 2016.
All we have to go on is how he was last season which was mostly injured, unfit and poor.
Maybe he's disappointed that LVG got fired?
This is ridiculous.
The double standards. This is exactly what Bayern have done with all their star strikers as soon as they have found a better replacement. Toni, Makaay, Klose, Gomez etc. Even a German "hero" such as Lukas Podolski has been playing with the Bayern reserves.
Rummenigge should shut up. If he feels so sorry for poor Basti, why don't he bring him home, play him in their first team and pay him £200k p/w. As if he only left them because he wanted a new challenge. He was obviously surplus to requirements at Bayern, and luckily for him LVG/United were happy to bring him here.
In before #JeSuisBastian
Whatever is happening this needs to be resolved soon.
If ppl like it or not Schweinsteiger is very respected in the football world and also for sponsors it won't reflect well on us if this escalates further.
He is such a high profile figure and the bottom line will be "United are forcing him to train with the reserves".
I am sure Woodward will be trying to find a solution asap.
If ppl like it or not Schweinsteiger is very respected in the football world and also for sponsors it won't reflect well on us if this escalates further.
He is such a high profile figure and the bottom line will be "United are forcing him to train with the reserves".
I am sure Woodward will be trying to find a solution asap.
Not a good look when we're allegedly re-signing Paul Pogba, a guy who was made to train on his own at United. Yes this probably while he was signed to Juve and he has spoken good and bad about United just to get that bit out of the way.
Players get told to leave and they're not wanted all the time but how many get frozen out of the first team training or told to train on their own? Is Gotze told to train with the reserves? Would be interesting to hear about other players being frozen out of the first team training if they're up for sale.
I can see how some players would be a bad influence but I doubt Bastian is that person but we don't know yet what he has done to warrant this. If it's merely he's on big wages and surplus to Jose's plans then it does seem wrong to freeze him out, just put him up for sale unless this is routine and United are being singled out?
Big wages is the clubs fault. We couldn't sell Nani for a decent fee now we have Bastian. At his age and previous season injured and the comments of Bayern it would seem we should've took Basti on a year contract or not bothered, and doubly so with LVG's short contract and chance of not finishing top four.
Players get told to leave and they're not wanted all the time but how many get frozen out of the first team training or told to train on their own? Is Gotze told to train with the reserves? Would be interesting to hear about other players being frozen out of the first team training if they're up for sale.
I can see how some players would be a bad influence but I doubt Bastian is that person but we don't know yet what he has done to warrant this. If it's merely he's on big wages and surplus to Jose's plans then it does seem wrong to freeze him out, just put him up for sale unless this is routine and United are being singled out?
Big wages is the clubs fault. We couldn't sell Nani for a decent fee now we have Bastian. At his age and previous season injured and the comments of Bayern it would seem we should've took Basti on a year contract or not bothered, and doubly so with LVG's short contract and chance of not finishing top four.
In Germany maybe. No one here cares.
Not sure how this has escalated.
There hasn't been a single word from United, yet Rummenigge is ridiculing the club, former players are expressing support for Bastian and Stefanovic (why is he commenting?) has labelled Mourinho a 'bully' who 'should be jailed' - which is a headline that BBC Sport are leading with.
Somehow or another this is turning into an character assassination on both United and Mourinho. Perhaps from those who are looking for any opportunity to do so now that Mourinho is in charge and United are flexing their muscles?
All a bit odd. Add not at all helpful.
There hasn't been a single word from United, yet Rummenigge is ridiculing the club, former players are expressing support for Bastian and Stefanovic (why is he commenting?) has labelled Mourinho a 'bully' who 'should be jailed' - which is a headline that BBC Sport are leading with.
Somehow or another this is turning into an character assassination on both United and Mourinho. Perhaps from those who are looking for any opportunity to do so now that Mourinho is in charge and United are flexing their muscles?
All a bit odd. Add not at all helpful.
Giggs and Rooney are behind this. And Kim Kardashian's mum.
There are a lot of people in football who Mourinho has rubbed the wrong way. Unfortunately they're gonna put the boot into us whenever. We've got to stand by our manager and hope stuff like this blows over.
@SteveJ is folllowing me, ive officially made it on the cafe
I've been in decline for years though, according to the Caf.SteveJ is folllowing me, ive officially made it on the cafe
Ignore the haters, keep doing you baby xo
Yep, I think we all anticipated that the club would come under this type of scrutiny with Mourinho in charge. Just particularly odd the way this has played out.
I suspect the United hierarchy are equally bemused.
It's a shame that he's gone from BFS to FFS.
And why is he wearing toilet blocks on his back in that Twitter pic?
And why is he wearing toilet blocks on his back in that Twitter pic?
Mourinho should really clear this story out once and for all. Don't care about what Rummenigge says but the fans deserve an explanation.
I'm not exaggerating when I say that the entire football world wants to see Mourinho fail with United, they will use every opportunities to have a dig at both the club and the manager. This also applies to City and Real Madrid.
Do we f*ck - we're just loonies who chase helicopters.
And stuff like this doesn't help either. Clown says Mourinho should be jailed for 3 years over it.
http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/36975545
http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/36975545