Stobzilla
Adores babies
There are few greater joys in life than getting well into a 4 player split screen Goldeneye match on the Complex, Facility and Archives maps.
I still have two working N64's to this day, one Japanese 60hz with a step down converter and a UK machine. I think I've still got pretty much every single classic made for the machine. Problem is, that catalogue of games is sparse when compared to the SNES, PS2, PS1, Megadrive and makes it too much of a niche console.N64 the console that set the mold for most of the type of games you will find on the modern day console and which still boast the game most still consider to be the greatest of all time in Zelda The Ocarina Of Time.
Neo Geo was far too expensive for most to consider it in a thread like this. I had one and managed to play pretty much every game I wanted to on it, but there's fonder memories of quite a few other consoles when I think about this topic.The most ahead of it's time and one that also had some great games was the Neo-Geo. It was so far ahead the other at the time it was like it arrived through a time machine.
No way! C64 was a computer, not a console! I had a few friends who learnt to code with it or used it for things other than games primarily, same goes for the Amiga. I think computers of those times would deserve an independent thread. C16, BBC Micro, Amstrad 464, Spectrum 48k, Atari ST etc; that's a huge and independent era with only the ST and Amiga overlapping once consoles truly boomed (16bit era).We should absolutely include Commodore. They were plugged into TVs and were primarily for games, unlike PCs, which only the very high-end machines are capable of even playing games.
But I disagree about the C64. I had one, and it holds a lot of nostalgia for me (bloody loved Buggy Boy), but the Amiga was an enormous upgrade, and games like Sensible World of Soccer and Cannon Fodder still hold a bit of replay value today (I still play SWOS). I can't think of a single C64 game I would want to play now, nor would I want to wait 10 minutes for it to load.
I should think it's more to do with its comparatively weak catalogue of games when put up directly against its predecessor or rival machines. By the end of its cycle, it was practically abandoned by Nintendo... a trait they've took with them in the the home console market since. The SNES, PS2 and so on were still huge even at the very end of their runs. Not sure anyone can have a bad word to say about such machines whereas N64 was a bittersweet console that left owners hanging even whilst in production.That's a fair point.
___________________________________
I'm surprised to not see more love for N64. Could it be because the most hardcore N64 fans are in their late twenties and therefore out drinking now?
To the other SNES fans in here: did you ever play 'Biker Mice From Mars' or 'Hook'? They're not so famous, but I enjoyed them a lot.
Atari st you philistine.Wash your mouth out. The Amiga 500 was the greatest thing ever.
Atari st you philistine.
But I was right , the NES was only as popular as it was due to Nintendos monopolistic practices that today wouldn't be allowed.You forgot the white text.
That's worse than when @Lord Megadrive said the Master System was better than the NES.
Same could be said for the Atari Jaguar and CD32This could have been one of the best consoles of all time .But lacked third party support.
The Panasonic 3DO
But I was right , the NES was only as popular as it was due to Nintendos monopolistic practices that today wouldn't be allowed.
I should think it's more to do with its comparatively weak catalogue of games when put up directly against its predecessor or rival machines.
That's the worst aspect of new consoles for me. It's shit how they've phased out the option to play most games on split screen with your mates.
Its obvious that the best games console of all time was the Sega Megadrive
It changed the landscape and although the SNES was better technically I always felt it was a little soulless
Besides for all it's technical advantages the SNES couldn't make music that was a patch on this
Funny you said that. I'm in my late twenties (as late as possible before saying goodbye to that period of my life in a couple of months ) and I'd just posted in favour of the PS1 before leaving and going out to get pissed.That's a fair point.
___________________________________
I'm surprised to not see more love for N64. Could it be because the most hardcore N64 fans are in their late twenties and therefore out drinking now?
To the other SNES fans in here: did you ever play 'Biker Mice From Mars' or 'Hook'? They're not so famous, but I enjoyed them a lot.
Same could be said for the Atari Jaguar and CD32
Ok..Jeez, what are you smoking? I made better music than that on my Casio keyboard from 1986
I've picked comparable games... honest
Now if they'd only stop delaying the release of Breath of the Wild...@Maxii
Your gaming background is eerily similar to mine. I had fewer games and consoles, but I always had close friends who purchased the other consoles in the generation so I didnt miss out on that much. I also switched to PC a bit earlier than you(but I purchased a Wii U last year, so I'm playing that a lot now).
Waiting to get Zelda games for Christmas is probably one of my best childhood memories. Nothing can ever top that anticipation
Listen to this video in it's entirety (no skipping) and get back to me...
Listen to this video in it's entirety (no skipping) and get back to me..
I see where you're coming from, but speaking from 1st hand experience of that entire era, and all the consoles I had and what would get played by and large, there are issues to contend with regarding the N64 that the other machines simply didn't have.'Weak catalouge' as in few games or weak games?
If it's the former:
Having a shit-ton of games for your console is overrated. Sure, you need a certain amount of games to satisfy your customers, but let's be real: during the lifespan of a console, how many different games will you try for more than 1 hour, even if you are a so-called "hardcore gamer"? I doubt it's much more than 50. Definitely not more than 100. And out of that amount, you probably only got invested in 20 of them. Probably 90% of the games you invested considerable time in were big titles that spread through advertisement and word of mouth. I get that it's fun to explore hidden gems(i.e. roms) nowadays to see what you missed out on, but back then you probably didn't get to fully enjoy 95% of the games, and thus it becomes an "overkill" aspect. Also, it's not like N64 didn't have variety! They launched 50-60 new games per year. To me, that's more than enough if the games are good.
If it's the latter:
This point is always gonna be wildly subjective, but I think the N64 had the better games. It's a fairly close call when it comes to single-player games, but when it comes to multiplayer and party games, the N64 completely wipes the floor with any other console from that generation. The games were also revolutionary in the sense that they set the standard for future gaming. Goldeneye revolutionized FPS, OOT revolutionizied the adventure genre and invented Z-targeting, Mario Party revolutionized party games(and ruined friendships) and Super Smash Brothers created a whole new fighting game genre. Today, 2 of the 3 most spectated games in the fighting game community are SSB games. The platform games were also the best of its generation(Mario 64, DK 64, Concker, Banjo etc).
I like the PS1, but a big library and a sweet controller doesn't beat superior graphics, performance and revolutionary multiplayer games with 4-player support. I feel that the only way you can claim that the PS1 is better, is if you think the top 20-30 games are better than the top 20-30 games on the N64. But again: that's subjective. However, I do think the N64 exclusives were more revolutionary than the PS1 exclusives.
What great games?I'm going to not read all these long analytical posts and tell you it's a toss up between the N64 and Megadrive and if you disagree you're wrong.
I'm going to not read all these long analytical posts and tell you it's a toss up between the N64 and Megadrive and if you disagree you're wrong.