Good player making a wrong career move

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Barry to City
Delph to City
Santa Cruz to City
Nasri to City
Garcia to City
Maicon to City
Bony to City
Rodwell to City
Sinclair to City
Jovetic to City
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Diego forlan to united
Veron to united
Saviola to barca
Woodgate to madrid
Owen to madrid
De boer to Barcelona
These are all wrong choices in hindsight. Would like to see ones that were blatantly wrong from the offset, like all the players going to China
 

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Just because a player didn't do well at a club doesn't mean the move was wrong for their career. Forlán and Saviola both made the jump from S-America to Europe. Forlán a 22 year old from Uruguay to the biggest club in the world at the time and Saviola to Barcelona where he actually played pretty well.

I don't think it's ever a bad move to join a huge club when your in top form. When are you else going to try and make that step up in your career?
 

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These are all wrong choices in hindsight. Would like to see ones that were blatantly wrong from the offset, like all the players going to China
Why is it wrong? If the aim is for money then it is a wise move.

The player i listed wanted fame and glory and make a wrong career move. The players who went to China perhaps looking for money and china is the best place for that.
 

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Just because a player didn't do well at a club doesn't mean the move was wrong for their career. Forlán and Saviola both made the jump from S-America to Europe. Forlán a 22 year old from Uruguay to the biggest club in the world at the time and Saviola to Barcelona where he actually played pretty well.

I don't think it's ever a bad move to join a huge club when your in top form. When are you else going to try and make that step up in your career?
Just because a player didn't do well at a club doesn't mean the move was wrong for their career. Forlán and Saviola both made the jump from S-America to Europe. Forlán a 22 year old from Uruguay to the biggest club in the world at the time and Saviola to Barcelona where he actually played pretty well.

I don't think it's ever a bad move to join a huge club when your in top form. When are you else going to try and make that step up in your career?
Sometime it is for a number of reason. A jump too soon, different culture, different teammates, nationality sentiment, different pressure, etc

Memphis made a wrong move, a year too soon imo.
 

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Why is it wrong? If the aim is for money then it is a wise move.

The player i listed wanted fame and glory and make a wrong career move. The players who went to China perhaps looking for money and china is the best place for that.
So if you're looking for fame and glory, man utd barca and Madrid aren't the best choices?

I'm pretty sure they wanted to make a big impression at their new club.
 

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Barry to City
Delph to City
Santa Cruz to City
Nasri to City
Garcia to City
Maicon to City
Bony to City
Rodwell to City
Sinclair to City
Jovetic to City
Robinho to City
Pretty sure he said good players.
 

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These are all wrong choices in hindsight. Would like to see ones that were blatantly wrong from the offset, like all the players going to China
the only way of judging these moves is through reflection, which means it has to be hindsight isn't it? I don't think anyone can be 100% sure beforehand
 

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Shearer to Newcastle.
At least he fulfilled his potential and happy playing for his boyhood club, even though without trophies. Other had their career ruined or at leats turned sour even though some of them did win some trophies as squad member
 

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The one that stands out most for me is Chicharito on loan to RM. Granted it's his boyhood club, but he left to get more playing time, only to join the reigning CL champions who are loaded up front? Mind boggling.
 

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the only way of judging these moves is through reflection, which means it has to be hindsight isn't it? I don't think anyone can be 100% sure beforehand
Can't even be sure with hindsight because you don't know the insights of each club. Was the player bought my the manager or the higher ups? Was the manager that bought him fired shortly after he joined? Did he not fit anymore because of certain rules (see Riquelme at Barca). Was there an injury shortly after arriving that stopped his adaptation? Did the player get to play at all?

Forlán was always just a bench player, he couldn't break through. Veron was always first choice but didn't manage to live up to his reputation. He said himself that he regretted leaving for Chelsea and he thinks that he would have done better had he stayed because he was starting to "feel the rhythm" or so to speak.
 

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Torres to Chelsea
To be fair, Torres had lost it before he moved to CFC. He was playing through injuries at Liverpool and by the time he joined Chelsea he was already done as a top class striker. Plus, he won feck all at Atletico and Liverpool and his first trophies came at CFC - FA Cup, Champions League and the Europa League. Given his terrible individul form, he might consider himself extremely lucky to move when he did, because as far as his career goes, that was his best period.
 

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To be fair, Torres had lost it before he moved to CFC. He was playing through injuries at Liverpool and by the time he joined Chelsea he was already done as a top class striker. Plus, he won feck all at Atletico and Liverpool and his first trophies came at CFC - FA Cup, Champions League and the Europa League. Given his terrible individul form, he might consider himself extremely lucky to move when he did, because as far as his career goes, that was his best period.
Then Torres to L'pool :wenger:...
 

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Diego forlan to united
No way I really don't think it was a bad career move for him at all. He was just unlucky/unfortunate that things didn't quite click for him at United. He was (and still is) adored by most of the fans and his teammates too, and Fergie also loved him and was upset he didn't quite fit. He didn't want him to leave either, but understood why he left in the end.
 

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No way I really don't think it was a bad career move for him at all. He was just unlucky/unfortunate that things didn't quite click for him at United. He was (and still is) adored by most of the fans and his teammates too, and Fergie also loved him and was upset he didn't quite fit. He didn't want him to leave either, but understood why he left in the end.
It wasn't so bad at the end, but for a few years he's wasted in United I'd say he could fare better moving elsewhere in the first place.
 

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Juninho Pernambucano. A top player who wasted the prime 8 years of his career in Ligue 1, when he was world class and could have played for almost any other club.
 

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It wasn't so bad at the end, but for a few years he's wasted in United I'd say he could fare better moving elsewhere in the first place.
Yeah, he did have a rough time for a while, I mean how many games did he go without scoring? Wasn't it something like 27? But a lot of his appearances were as a sub and to be fair, from memory, he wasn't playing badly, just not actually hitting the net. I just don't like thinking of it as a bad move because I liked him so much. He really was a joy to watch and had a cracking shot on him. Also, another player that always seemed to play with a smile on his face, you can tell he loved playing football.
 

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Jody Morris was offered a 5 year contact at Chelsea but turned it down and moved to Leeds United for guaranteed first team footy. 3 months later Abramovic had bought Chelsea and within 12 months Morris moved to Millwall.

Morris was not a great player but he could have had a far better career than he did.
 

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Gazza to Tottenham. WTF was he thinking?
He wasn't.

Dunno how it was the wrong career move though. I mean from all accounts he was performing brilliantly at spurs before he idiotically injuried himself, even then he earned himself a move to lazio.
 

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like all the players going to China
Still scratching my head over Oscar looking to go there...

Some of these are interesting to call "wrong moves" though...
Giovinco to MLS
He's absolutely shredding MLS right now and winning personal and team honors to boot. Maybe a "wrong move" because the league is a level below where he might belong, but he's making the most of it.
Shearer to Newcastle.
Not if you ask him. Saw an interview on NBCSN recently with him and several other stars from Northeast clubs and he was very adamant that he was totally content with becoming a legend at his boyhood club.
Juninho Pernambucano. A top player who wasted the prime 8 years of his career in Ligue 1, when he was world class and could have played for almost any other club.
Won 7 league titles in a row and about the same amount of other trophies in his time there.
 

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Morgan Schneiderlin to Man United
Rickie Lambert to Liverpool
Andy Carroll to Liverpool
Wilfried Zaha to Man United
Mario Balotelli to Liverpool
Karel Poborsky to Man United
Juan Cuadrado to Chelsea
Gaston Ramirez to Southampton
Loic Remy to anywhere

.....and Lord knows, countless others.
 

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Jody Morris was offered a 5 year contact at Chelsea but turned it down and moved to Leeds United for guaranteed first team footy. 3 months later Abramovic had bought Chelsea and within 12 months Morris moved to Millwall.

Morris was not a great player but he could have had a far better career than he did.
Having met him, this pleases me massively. cnut
 

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I think Gazza was the one that comes to mind for me. If he'd come to us, he would have had the stage to become the best in the world.