Ogden: United want Antoine Griezmann and another forward - sources

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I've seen several people saying Zlatan won't be featuring much next season. I think that's deluded. If he carries on playing like he has so far and scores about 20 goals I think he's right back to being your main man next season. Rightfully so, too.
I agree. It's more a question of getting a reliable backup, I think someone experienced, not necessarily long term. There shouldn't be any doubt he will be playing all the league matches if Mourinho is still here, but he should be getting more rest in the cups.

Given he keeps this up whole season.
 

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Some outlets saying Harry Kane is Mourinho's "dream" signing. If that was the case I'm not sure why we waited til he got signed up until 2022, unknown if there is a buy out inserted but knowing Levy we'd be looking at another World record fee.

Kane is still only on 100k a week including bonuses, that's still tiny money which we could treble no problem. He might have some loyalty to Spurs and IMO they have one of the best young coaches around so he might like to see how far they can go with players like himself and Alli having so much potential.
 

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Rooney not moving in the summer will severely limit his chances of making it in the England squad for the World Cup.
 

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Kane is slow.

And why would he leave a super club like Spurs for little old Utd?
 

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This is probably Ogden being leaked info by Woodwards people to deflect from the fact we bottled it last night. Too obvious Ed. We're used to it now.
 

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Not sure I see him going to the World Cup on the back of a humiliating season of bench-warming, which will certainly be his fate if he stays. It would also be an ignominious end to his United career, something both parties will want to avoid. I wouldn't be surprised if they (the club and Rooney) came to a mutual agreement to part ways amicably this summer.
Have you missed the Rooney China stories this week ? He would more than likely go there, possibly this summer, as it would take China money to offset his 290k/wk wages.
I've seen the stories but still I'd be surprised if he accepted the move before 2018. I get what you both are saying especially the fact that a season of bench warming isn't the best preparation for an England captain but going into semi retirement in China is even worse. He'd have no chance of going to the WC if he moved to China. It's the same reason Beckham so desperately wanted to come on loan to Milan before the 2010 WC. So I would be surprised if he accepted this move this coming summer.
 

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... why would he leave a super club like Spurs for little old Utd?
Kane has just signed a new contract running for the next 5 years. He pretty obviously isn't going up sticks this summer.
 

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One out of the blue : Benzema - out of favour at real Madrid - he's the kind of powerful, mature CF José loves and he knows his game perfectly. Ferguson was always after him too. He's 29 now so could have a couple of very good years left.
 

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One out of the blue : Benzema - out of favour at real Madrid - he's the kind of powerful, mature CF José loves and he knows his game perfectly. Ferguson was always after him too. He's 29 now so could have a couple of very good years left.
Would be a good acquisition but we'd still likely lack goals. He's not the best finisher around. We'd need one of our other players to be hitting near on 20 goals
 

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One of Icardi, Lukaku, A. Silva or Belotti I expect. The former two are arguably more-proven than the latter two, but all four have shown themselves pretty capable and probably have decent futures.
I don't know who the others are but I don't want Lukaku anywhere near us. Overrated.
 

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I wouldn't have Harry Kane here. Good striker but not somebody I enjoy watching. His heart isn't at Man United either and would only join us to advance his career. Rashford is the opposite and has a higher potential in my opinion.

I'm hoping for Griezmann and Vidal. Wishful thinking on Vidal but he would be so beastly for us. Right now I just want Top 4 and a few cups though.
 

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Aubameyang - Always waving his Aubamewang at Real Madrid and has been at it again recently.
Lukaku - PL proven but patchy and lacks the technique and dynamism I'd like to see.
Benzema - Struggled for fitness and form, prone to sulking and midget porn blackmail.
Icardi - Tremendous conversion rate in a mediocre team, but married to a 3rd rate Kardashian wannabe who is also his agent.
Belotti - Robust, fast and hard working, scoring well for another poor team.
Lacazette - Has scored over 20 goals 4 seasons in a row but might lack the hold up play Jose likes.
Andre Silva - Pretty much the blueprint of a Jose #9 but obviously inexperienced.
Dolberg - The youngest name here and playing in a poor league, but there's a real touch of class and maturity in his play.
 

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Aubameyang - Always waving his Aubamewang at Real Madrid and has been at it again recently.
Lukaku - PL proven but patchy and lacks the technique and dynamism I'd like to see.
Benzema - Struggled for fitness and form, prone to sulking and midget porn blackmail.
Icardi - Tremendous conversion rate in a mediocre team, but married to a 3rd rate Kardashian wannabe who is also his agent.
Belotti - Robust, fast and hard working, scoring well for another poor team.
Lacazette - Has scored over 20 goals 4 seasons in a row but might lack the hold up play Jose likes.
Andre Silva - Pretty much the blueprint of a Jose #9 but obviously inexperienced.
Dolberg - The youngest name here and playing in a poor league, but there's a real touch of class and maturity in his play.
Belotti looks a very interesting prospect. Would love to hear from Someone who has watched him over a prolonged period of time.
 

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Icardi would work great. I can't see how we sign Griezmann AND a 'proven goalscorer' and Ibrahimovic staying.
AND Martial AND Rashford. We can't keep 5 strikers happy at the same time.

I'm going to say Griezmann and Aubamayang.

I'm not sure where that would leave Martial and Rashford though.
Which is my concern.

With Ibrahimovic staying, we only need Griezmann for the front 4 and thats it.
 

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Rumours Real Madrid are looking to offload him in the Summer. We don't want to become a graveyard the big teams Real Madrid's offcasts but Morata could possibly interest José
Morata, one of the 49 Jose gave debuts to.
 

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Icardi would work great. I can't see how we sign Griezmann AND a 'proven goalscorer' and Ibrahimovic staying.
That's evidence of how far we've fallen. Plenty of teams have that amount of quality in their squad.

If Martial and Rashford are going to share that left wing berth for Ibras final season there's certainly room for two more forwards. Especially as Griezmann is a different type of forward.

Would be crowded for 12 months but we should be able to, and willing to wear that. Especially if we can move Rooney on.
 

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I dont get why rashofrd dont start at top on his own. I no we cant rely on him as he is still young bit he is wasted on the wing. Wpuld like to see ibra rested for a few weeks ( he needs it badly) and rashford given then chance to step up. Martial mata and mkh in support and in front of pogba (whos beem rubbish lately) partnering Carrick
 

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One out of the blue : Benzema - out of favour at real Madrid - he's the kind of powerful, mature CF José loves and he knows his game perfectly. Ferguson was always after him too. He's 29 now so could have a couple of very good years left.
I would be amazed if any half decent team in Europe will sign him let alone someone like us, madrid have been hawking him around for quiet a while but none want him due to the whole blackmail thing.
 

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A 23/24 year old forward on the verge of becoming world class would be awesome right now. Tidy skills, tireless darting runs and lots of pace and aggression. I suppose every team is looking for the perfect striker.
 

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Belotti looks a very interesting prospect. Would love to hear from Someone who has watched him over a prolonged period of time.
He'll most likely go to a big club this summer, Torino have set him up to make a lot of money as he's sustained good form and suits the PL with his physical attributes.
 

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Get Griezmann and another proven goalscoring winger. A winger who can cross properly with occasional goals. Someone like Beckham or Giggs.

Save up the striker money and wait until 2018 after unloading Zlatan and in case Martial and Rashford levelled up.
 

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Get as many proven goal-scorers as you like but unless we do something about the snail-pace of our build-up they'll be as redundant as the ones we already have!

We telegraph every move and our players are often static not making forward runs that scare the shit out of defenders (often because of the high line teams adopt against us) it's no surprise we've only had one penalty home and one away all season (of which, one converted). Even when players do make runs we rarely play the ball forward into that players feet, it's always lateral or even behind the player often breaking up momentum and rhythm. Our players are then forced to recycle the ball so often that it allows teams to quickly get two rows of 4 (sometimes 5) behind the ball crazily when we've been on a break ten seconds before. It often seems to me like we don't want to score unless it's really difficult – embarrassingly, it reminds me of what we used to laugh at Arsenal about!

As a caveat, I still believe we'll make top 4 and think Jose will sort all this out!
 

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Get as many proven goal-scorers as you like but unless we do something about the snail-pace of our build-up they'll be as redundant as the ones we already have!

We telegraph every move and our players are often static not making forward runs that scare the shit out of defenders (often because of the high line teams adopt against us) it's no surprise we've only had one penalty home and one away all season (of which, one converted). Even when players do make runs we rarely play the ball forward into that players feet, it's always lateral or even behind the player often breaking up momentum and rhythm. Our players are then forced to recycle the ball so often that it allows teams to quickly get two rows of 4 (sometimes 5) behind the ball crazily when we've been on a break ten seconds before. It often seems to me like we don't want to score unless it's really difficult – embarrassingly, it reminds me of what we used to laugh at Arsenal about!

As a caveat, I still believe we'll make top 4 and think Jose will sort all this out!
Good post
 

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--------DM----Pogba-------
Mkhi---Griezzman--Martial
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Has the potential for fast paced play. It all depends on whether we have a plan, or just intend on shoe-horning him in and hoping for the best.
 

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Get as many proven goal-scorers as you like but unless we do something about the snail-pace of our build-up they'll be as redundant as the ones we already have!

We telegraph every move and our players are often static not making forward runs that scare the shit out of defenders (often because of the high line teams adopt against us) it's no surprise we've only had one penalty home and one away all season (of which, one converted). Even when players do make runs we rarely play the ball forward into that players feet, it's always lateral or even behind the player often breaking up momentum and rhythm. Our players are then forced to recycle the ball so often that it allows teams to quickly get two rows of 4 (sometimes 5) behind the ball crazily when we've been on a break ten seconds before. It often seems to me like we don't want to score unless it's really difficult – embarrassingly, it reminds me of what we used to laugh at Arsenal about!

As a caveat, I still believe we'll make top 4 and think Jose will sort all this out!
Chances created in epl till this point in the season, chelsea 248 tottenham 299 arsenal 273 liverpool 312 man city 282 man utd 290, in contrast to that look at the goals scored, chelsea 48 tottenham 45 arsenal 51 liverpool 52 man city 47 man utd 33, our buildup play could be better but it definitely is not the problem our finishing though is a big one. iirc we are the worst team in pl at scoring sitters and equally bad at taking other gilt edged chances too, a proven goalscorer in the team would have had us competing with chelsea for the title not try to scrape top 4 as we are now.
 

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AND Martial AND Rashford. We can't keep 5 strikers happy at the same.
If the Independent article is true, we're selling Martial. But the same article had a sub heading we're selling Shaw too, but failed to mention it at all the the article. Selling a potential world class left side of our team would be dangerous and send us backwards imo.

I'd give up if we sold Martial and brought in Morata or Lukaku. We have 100% no chance of getting Keane, Spurs are going to finish in the top 4, they have a nice new stadium being built too.