Indeed Griezmann should play off a striker which makes that MF 3 nonsense hopefully an impossibility.
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TBH I think playing him off a striker is holding him back from reaching the next stage of his development which for me is 9.5/false 9.
I think his goal output would increase by doing so and also get him out of Pogbas way.
It's what France should do as well imo.
Could easily be RWF ala Messi, where he could easily shine. We already have an overlapping RB in Valencia.
I'd love that 4-3-3 formation a la Real Madrid that was posted earlier. We'd also have the players to play on the flanks
Imagine making that comment 15 years ago.Pogba would have to play more defensively if it's 4-2-3-1, I don't think he will be comfortable in that position. If it's 4-3-3, Griezmann would have to play as a winger or striker. Has Griezmann ever played as a striker or as a winger and if he has, how well has he played in those positions?
You mean alone? Because otherwise that's what he plays for France.
true.. but then again we've seen some revolutionary footballers coming through like Messi, who have redefined tactics at their peak and I honestly see Griezmann as a unique footballer.. who if we shoehorn into a wide position, it would be a waste of his talents.If we didn't have Pogba, playing him off a striker would be fine but with Pogba there, I think we need to think carefully how to utilise them in tandem.
Alone yes. I saw him play off Giroud during the Euro's, haven't caught your recent games but I presumed he was still doing that. Happy to be corrected if Deschamps has changed tactics.
I just think the following would be awesome..
Mbappe Griezmann Dembele
Pogba
Rabiot Kante
Mendy Laporte Varane Sidibe
Lloris
Similar to the way Puskas is used here... albeit, Griezmann less of a natural striker, so would need wing-forwards either side who can operate at CF now and again.Pogba
Rabiot Kante
Mendy Laporte Varane Sidibe
Lloris
Which wing forwards, Rashford and Martial? There's none in the team. Besides, both Rashford and Martial ended the season playing as striker. So, I don't see it happening, really.
Ideally, one of those two.. but if they don't cut the mustard, we'd have to invest in some wing forwards for example Mbappe/Neymar/Dembele/Sanchez etc.
I agree that this would be the best use of Griezmann for both United and France (both with a similar formation).
Against weaker teams can chuck another striker in and move Pogba back into a midfield two.
See, why would we change our play to adapt for players we don't have besides Griezmann, who can easily play 4-2-3-1 or 4-4-2?
Because you have to look at the long term picture and the aim is to win CL and multiple titles.
The key to doing that is maximising both of their chemistry and ability.
The longterm picture should include Pogba exploiting his huge defensive abilities, the ones that he shows when he is bothered. At full potential Pogba is the ultimate box to box and the midfield should be his kingdom. The longer we play this hiding game, the least likely he is to exploit his potential, just let him be Vieira 2.0.
I am not averse to that approach, would love to see him become that.
In club football though and in CL, very hard to play a 2 man mid and win midfield battle.
This is interesting and it answers my question about how this midfield 3 would play. It's just about how I imagined though, so my issue with the number 10/second striker position remains - there is none. Which is OK! I really like this. BUT we don't need Griezmann - we need an out and out number 9. Griezmann is best as a second striker, or maybe a number 10. So if we do get Fabinho, I can't see the need for Griezmann - either that or things are going to look very different. I just don't see Griezmann as a winger at all. It's like when we signed Mata because he's a good player and available, but we didn't need him in his best position (10) so we stuck him on right wing where he's just OK. Looking at this it really makes me think we need a number 9 and 2 wingers! Crazy to think that with the talent we have. But to my mind Mata is best as a ten, Mkhitaryan is best as a ten (I don't like him in the team at all mind you but that's just me). Rashford is best as a 9 and I'd even say Martial is a 9. This squad still needs a lot of work doesn't it? Gotta say Joses the man for it.Not as a pure 10, but Pogba in Sneijder role.
Pogba--
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And on 'easier' games, we can have Mata/Mykhi there, with Pogba on Herrera's.
We can also have Griezmann on Ronaldo's as a free roaming striker on the wing. Then Pogba in Modric, Herrera in Kroos, and FFabinho in Casamiro.
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Ok.
Now i go to the Griezmann thread to get updated about Fabinho.
Now i go to the Griezmann thread to get updated about Fabinho.
http://www.football-italia.net/103589/deco-juventus-want-fabinho
Would be depressing if we miss out on him and Griezmann this summer
We need to sign him, he is the most important signing we will make, if we do. I think it would be stupid not to sign him at 30 million euros only.
I swear last night I had a dream about Fabinho playing for Juve! Sad, I know. Then I wake up to this this!
Missing out on Fabinho would be more disappointing than Griezmann for me. He's the type of player you can see going to Juve and being their Marchisio for another 10 years. Then again I was over the moon when we signed Schneiderlin, so what do I know.
Let's see what happens
Missing out on Fabinho would be more disappointing than Griezmann for me. He's the type of player you can see going to Juve and being their Marchisio for another 10 years. Then again I was over the moon when we signed Schneiderlin, so what do I know.
Let's see what happens
I agree that we should sign him but I don't think he's our highest priority by any means. We'll control the game against most teams with what we have; it's finishing it that's the issue.
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He looks like a typical Juve signing as well.
Have we even been linked that strongly? Not sure I'd classify it as missing out when there's not a whole lot to suggest we're even in for him.
Juve have been linked to numerous midfielders and I think they are going in strongest for Tolisso.
Only the Monaco ITK on Twitter who got silva and mendy to city. Apart from that not much other info. perhaps di marzio will know anything more.
Juve will get him for the price of a curly wurly and a Fanta, as usual.
Lol it's not even far from the truth. They even signed Ibra for a modest fee back in the day
Is he only valued at that? It would be terrible not to go for him at that. Imagine the room Herrera and Pogba would have! Incredible midfield 3.
Somewhere Roberto Martinez is smiling
Its according to the article, according to Monaco ITK its 40-45 million euros. Either way he is 23, he is worth it and considering there are not many better players than him in his position along with bakayoko to chelsea seemingly failing leading to matic being unavailable, we have to go for him.
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He will free up Pogba and Herrera if we go 3 in the middle.
Hard to understand why we are not in for him. He ticks so many boxes and for me would have been the most important signing tbh. Strange one
If we dont sign him, fellaini will start most games. I think he is much better player than Fellaini.
Him behind Pogba and Herrera. It's meant to be and makes so much sense.
Juve picking him on the cheap after the fantastic season he's had would be so fecking typical
If we only sign one player, I hope it is this guy.
Everyone wants him except Jose it seems
Obviously he is and I hope we get him and all; I just think that our attack is a more pressing issue. Hopefully we can do both.
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