Lukaku's first touch

[UnrelatedPsuedo]

People also fail to grasp just how big Lukaku's operating space is. He owns more of the space around him than most forwards. His touch doesn't have to be Berbatov silky.

He takes a touch and his next touch is often a shot, or an additional touch past a player.

Aguero grew up needing the ball to be within half a metre of his foot at all times. If it's not, he's pushed off the ball. His game grew around that.

Lukaku doesn't need the ball that close. He shoots from awkward heights and angles. He moves his body well. He's smashed in more goals than anyone not named Harry, operating like this.

If he had a heavy touch and you could routinely see that touch get punished by most centre halves then I'd see a problem. That's simply not happening.

He scores goals for club and country. He's clinical and a great finisher. It's woefully stupid to cast everything else aside and draw a conclusion of "His touch should be better".

He's going to be a huge success.

 

[lococol]

Flip it on it's head- there are many a player with a flawless first touch that couldn't hit a cows arse with a banjo.

exactly, well put. Also with Pogbas precision passing the first touch doesnt have to be all that anyway. Its not like someone blasting the ball at your feet from 10 yards and you struggle to control it.

 

[Needham]

He can be United's Lee Chapman, he who won the league with Leeds but couldn't trap a bag of cement. Mourinho is our Howard Wilkinson.

 

[GazTheLegend]

He can be United's Lee Chapman, he who won the league with Leeds but couldn't trap a bag of cement. Mourinho is our Howard Wilkinson.

Does... does this mean Rashford will try to smash Lukaku's missus making us have to sell him to City for 1.1 million pounds?

 

[clarkydaz]

He can be United's Lee Chapman, he who won the league with Leeds but couldn't trap a bag of cement. Mourinho is our Howard Wilkinson.

"games are won at set pieces"

 

[OldTrevil]

Caftards in matchday threads will be missing Lukaku's goals while typing to complain about his first touch.

 

[horsechoker]

Berbatov had probably the best first touch in the league but he wasn't half the player Rooney was.

Berbatov is probably the superior player now.

 

[roonster09]

Berbatov is probably the superior player now.

Yeah that's why when he was free agent so many lined up to sign him.

 

[Stack]

Caftards in matchday threads will be missing Lukaku's goals while typing to complain about his first touch.

Confirmation bias will be rampant

 

[hubbuh]

Berbatov is probably the superior player now.

By which measurement?

 

[Ixion]

Berbatov is probably the superior player now.

If Berbatov was at a top club banging in the goals you might have some sort of point.

 

[AdNani]

Berbatov is probably the superior player now.

Berbatov can't find a club ffs

 

[ypsipeos]

The way I see Lukaku, his main problem is mentality, not his skills on or off the ball. Especially off the ball he is great. He s got a good shot, average rigt foot, average first touch (I rate using weak foot over first touch for a striker) and with his superb body structure he can overmuscle any defender, so I won't say anything on dribbling skills.

Although he s got such funds he looks like a boy who has average ambitions. He s not got that arrogance in his face. He is very cultured and intelligent. This sometimes is good, but it may cause overanalyzing, overthinking. Lukaku may limit himself because of his mellow character. He doesn't look like the guy that would hate anyone, rival or not. A Kaka-type character.

I don't mean he is a pussy or something, I mean he is a gentle giant who has nothing to prove.
So, I repeat, drtermination, and not the first touch is the attribute which he misses.

 

[Trigg]

The way I see Lukaku, his main problem is mentality, not his skills on or off the ball. Especially off the ball he is great. He s got a good shot, average rigt foot, average first touch (I rate using weak foot over first touch for a striker) and with his superb body structure he can overmuscle any defender, so I won't say anything on dribbling skills.

Although he s got such funds he looks like a boy who has average ambitions. He s not got that arrogance in his face. He is very cultured and intelligent. This sometimes is good, but it may cause overanalyzing, overthinking. Lukaku may limit himself because of his mellow character. He doesn't look like the guy that would hate anyone, rival or not. A Kaka-type character.

I don't mean he is a pussy or something, I mean he is a gentle giant who has nothing to prove.
So, I repeat, drtermination, and not the first touch is the attribute which he misses.

I don't know, I think he showed determination and ambition in the route he's taken to join United. He could have easily sat at Chelsea and gone out on loan every year (like a lot of young players do) but he didn't. After two season of going out on loan he joined Everton with a view to proving his worth and qualities and moving on to bigger things. Which he's done.

So yeah, I don't see any issue with his ambition or determination.

Or his first touch for that fact, just to add.

 

[Zebs]

Not sure if it's been posted but I just came across this: http://www.express.co.uk/sport/foot...s-Romelu-Lukaku-transfer-gossip-Jose-Mourinho

 

[Member 5225]

Not sure if it's been posted but I just came across this: http://www.express.co.uk/sport/foot...s-Romelu-Lukaku-transfer-gossip-Jose-Mourinho

Baahahaa omg!!

 

[starman]

I think the criticism of Lukaku's first touch becomes quite absurd when people qualify that with "Morata has better touch". No he doesn't.

I would happily concede that he's not at the same level at Zlatan, Aguero, Van Persie etc. but Morata has nothing on him.

Yes he does. You say he doesnt. I say he does. I think Lakuku will still score lots of goals, I am just not a fan boy about it

 

[starman]

You would've preferred a striker with an inferior goal record? Both 24 but Lukaku has scored more than twice the goals. Morata can't even keep Benzema off the pitch

Morata playing for the best team in Europe is only 2nd choice? disgracful!

 

[RedCurry]

Yes he does. You say he doesnt. I say he does. I think Lakuku will still score lots of goals, I am just not a fan boy about it

It's not about being a fanboy, it's just evident to see that Morata's first touch is poor as well. It's almost like people haven't watched him play when they say all these made up things about him that are just incorrect.

 

[Siorac]

Not sure if it's been posted but I just came across this: http://www.express.co.uk/sport/foot...s-Romelu-Lukaku-transfer-gossip-Jose-Mourinho

Oh dear. We're famous now. Hello, red tops! It's a pleasure to have you here, ask anything you'd like!

 

[ypsipeos]

I don't know, I think he showed determination and ambition in the route he's taken to join United. He could have easily sat at Chelsea and gone out on loan every year (like a lot of young players do) but he didn't. After two season of going out on loan he joined Everton with a view to proving his worth and qualities and moving on to bigger things. Which he's done.

So yeah, I don't see any issue with his ambition or determination.

Or his first touch for that fact, just to add.

I am talking about greed and inferiority complex. For such a talented guy, with such funds and such body structue, it is sure he will accomplish a big club movement. I mean playing for Manchester United or another big club is sure for a player like him.
But I am talking about C.Ronaldo greediness, one that comes from deep inside someone's soul, one that is expected from a cry-baby character. You can see this type of ambition and determination in Latin players. Their culture is completely different. Drama queens, explosive aggression, divers, hand of the god goals etc etc.

You see what I 'm talking about?
Do you think that Lukaku is somebody like Maradona or Ronaldo? Have you seen a young Ronaldo or a young Busquets or a Pepe losing?
... yeah, no way Lukaku will get hurt that way. He is stronger inside, which sometimes in football, is a weakness. Οxymoron

 

[Carolina Red]

I am talking about greed and inferiority complex. For such a talented guy, with such funds and such body structue, it is sure he will accomplish a big club movement. I mean playing for Manchester United or another big club is sure for a player like him.
But I am talking about C.Ronaldo greediness, one that comes from deep inside someone's soul, one that is expected from a cry-baby character. You can see this type of ambition and determination in Latin players. Their culture is completely different. Drama queens, explosive aggression, divers, hand of the god goals etc etc.

You see what I 'm talking about?
Do you think that Lukaku is somebody like Maradona or Ronaldo? Have you seen a young Ronaldo or a young Busquets or a Pepe losing?
... yeah, no way Lukaku will get hurt that way. He is stronger inside, which sometimes in football, is a weakness. Οxymoron

I'd rather have a calm, confident player, personally. Overt cockiness, in my experience, is just a cover up for insecurity

 

[ypsipeos]

I'd rather have a calm, confident player, personally. Overt cockiness, in my experience, is just a cover up for insecurity

I agree, but for some footballers, insecurity turns to be the force that pushes them forward.

 

[Carolina Red]

I completely agree, but for some footballers, insecurity turns to be the force that pushes them forward.

And for others, they get found out when put on the big stage (ex. Memphis)

I'd rather have the calm, confident sure thing at United

 

[ypsipeos]

And for others, they get found out when put on the big stage (ex. Memphis)

I'd rather have the calm, confident sure thing at United

I will never explain though, how a narcissist like Ronaldo, a cry-baby and show-pony as they called him in the dressing rooms and training ground, a diver and a diva like him, a boy who cried allover the place after losing the 2004 Euro finals ... managed to reach the sky.

Ferguson was really a rainmaker. When he wanted something to happen he made it happen. Best man-handling skills ever seen in football.

 

[LoneStar]

I feel sorry for Lukaku as he is going to be seen as Rooney's replacement. There are many diehard Rooney fans that just cant wait to pounce on him for every mistake that he makes or game that he does not score. He had better start the season firing on all cylinders or keep away from any websites such as ours.

You don't have to feel sorry for Lukaku. I don't think he'll be reading the redcafe or any other forum. Of course he'll be scrutinised more because he is a United player, but he seems like a mentally strong guy. I don't think the match going fans will ever give him shit, and that's what matters. I am confident he'll score a truckload of goals for us this season, can't wait for the season to start.

 

[LoneStar]

Not sure if it's been posted but I just came across this: http://www.express.co.uk/sport/foot...s-Romelu-Lukaku-transfer-gossip-Jose-Mourinho

This is a proper time to use the word embarrassing. I can see Lukaku crying now reading this. Hope Pogba and Lingard are there to console him. Also Honourable mention to the state of journalism these days.

 

[Santoryo]

Nah keep it for the agenda driven posters as a place to hang out after he has a bad game.

This.

We don't want them to infest every threads, so It'd be wise to have this one drawing their attention and keeping them busy.

 

[Adebesi]

As if that will work. People who have an issue with one of our players will quite happily bring it up in every thread they go into. I remember in seasons gone by, there was no thread on any subject that couldnt morph into a debate about how Rooney was destroying the club.

 

[Santoryo]

Caftards in matchday threads will be missing Lukaku's goals while typing to complain about his first touch.

I can actually see this happening a lot.

 

[Carolina Red]

I can actually see this happening a lot.

Goal!

Get in!!!!

Lukaku!!!!

Great ball in by Pogba!!!

Feck that first touch is terrible

1-0 United!

Thanks Giflord

 

[IFC 1905]

Berbatov had probably the best first touch in the league but he wasn't half the player Rooney was.

Berbatov in my eyes was World Class. Rooney has a nice first touch too.

 

[starman]

It's not about being a fanboy, it's just evident to see that Morata's first touch is poor as well. It's almost like people haven't watched him play when they say all these made up things about him that are just incorrect.

Wait, so now you are saying Lakuku has a poor touch, but Morata is worse? ok...

 

[Pogue Mahone]

I feel sorry for Lukaku as he is going to be seen as Rooney's replacement. There are many diehard Rooney fans that just cant wait to pounce on him for every mistake that he makes or game that he does not score. He had better start the season firing on all cylinders or keep away from any websites such as ours.

Aye, this place is infested with diehard Rooney fans waiting to slag Lukaku off...

Are you serious? The type of person who was slow to turn on Rooney is the type of person who will be more likely to be patient with a new signing who doesn't hit the ground running.

The people who are much more likely to have a go at Lukaku if ever has any kind of dry spell are a completely different cohort. Impatient and quick to lose patience, constantly looking for upgrades in the transfer market.

Basically, it's the Morata fans who will give Lukaku the most shit. Wait and see...

 

[RedCurry]

Wait, so now you are saying Lakuku has a poor touch, but Morata is worse? ok...

Where did I say anything about Morata's touch being worse? It's quite poor though.

 

[starman]

I think the criticism of Lukaku's first touch becomes quite absurd when people qualify that with "Morata has better touch". No he doesn't.
I would happily concede that he's not at the same level at Zlatan, Aguero, Van Persie etc. but Morata has nothing on him.

Where did I say anything about Morata's touch being worse? It's quite poor though.

Well if its not better, than its either the same or worse, pretty simple. And if its the same as Lukaku's and you think they are both bad, i really have no idea what point you are making? They both have poor touches but its absurd to suggest Morata is better? is this supposed to be your point?

 

[Dennis Viollet]

What about Lukaku last touch?

 

[RedCurry]

Well if its not better, than its either the same or worse, pretty simple. And if its the same as Lukaku's and you think they are both bad, i really have no idea what point you are making? They both have poor touches but its absurd to suggest Morata is better? is this supposed to be your point?

My point is simple. Morata's touch is as bad as Lukaku's. So it's weird why people keep bringing up Morata's superior first touch when in fact it's equally erratic. At times they both show some sublime touch but at times the ball just bounces off their feet.

I am not talking about them as complete players because first touch doesn't make a player. That's for another thread.

 

[The Red Thinker]

What about Lukaku last touch?

Top answer! Goals baby! Goals!

 

[starman]

My point is simple. Morata's touch is as bad as Lukaku's. So it's weird why people keep bringing up Morata's superior first touch when in fact it's equally erratic. At times they both show some sublime touch but at times the ball just bounces off their feet.

I am not talking about them as complete players because first touch doesn't make a player. That's for another thread.

End of the day its just your opinion, its not a 'fact' as you keep on claiming just because you find it absurd or weird