Amazing, we even have "cartilheiros" in United's forum now
I'm not going to contradict the post you wrote, it's full of crap but i'll give you a warning, this forum is not what you are used to in Portugal, where the tone and the level is extremely low. This type of things you wrote isn't accepted here. So moderate your tone and stop making stuff up or you won't get far. Think wisely before posting again.He got sacked because he sided with his agent (sometimes against the interests of the club) and adopted a confrontational tone against our Board. Our President isn't a saint but when chosing between our President and Marco Silva in terms of defending our club's interests, it's Bruno de Carvalho all the way.
Don't worry mate I think I made my presence felt here today, but if he believes he will get away with this when he comes here, well...Amazing, we even have "cartilheiros" in United's forum now
Nope. It was Leicester responsability not Sporting's. But tbf to our President, who often behaves in a very erratic manner, he sided with Leicester and praised their behaviour in the transfer saga. He called for FIFA to be more flexible. Since Sporting and Leicester have a very good relation and are in friendly terms, i think they will negotiate some kind of solution for this problem. At least that's what most media is reporting.
Incredible, we have a Setúbal "fan" who copy pastes stuff from Benfica sites. What an incredible coincidence.Don't worry mate I think I made my presence felt here today, but if he believes he will get away with this when he comes here, well...
AhAh, and he spouts the same propaganda as Guerra or Rui Pedro Braz, who by the way was from the same school as me in Margem Sul, and believe me he is so fanatical about Benfica that everytime they lost a match he would go to the school totally freaked out.
Thanks mate.
No problem mate.
Because that's the truth mate. Our football has no credibility and like the country itself it's full of corruption scandals. Here it isn't like England where when you lose it's because of your shortcomings. In Portugal there are bribes to refs, clubs trying to control FA's and games being bought by Mafias. Our league is a mess but the talents will keep coming up. The reasoning is simple. Clubs have top notch facilities, scouts and coaches and at the youth level there isn't as much corruption. So if you are a really good player you will eventually move out of the swamp. So even with all the problems, that's why we keep producing top players and our NT keeps getting good results.
It will continue to last simply because portuguese clubs usually overachieve in UEFA competitions with the budgets at their disposal. It is an interesting league, and the small clubs are decently organized and have good conditions at their disposal. And like it or not, there's actually some criteria at the transfer market (except in Mendes transfers
)Football is mainly an entretainment industry nowadays. It's a romantic thought to think that only in our league those things happen. It's installed everywhere.
Perhaps you are right in some extent. I think that in Spain, the same happens. We have boundaries but it's the same mentality. It happened in Italy with Juventus and in France with Marseille. But in England (or Germany) i don't believe in that one bit. That's why i used it like an example. I wish i wasn't so sentimentally attached to Sporting. It would be easier for me to stop following football. Damm you Father and Grandpa
The stupid thing is that Calcio Caos was not mainly about Juventus winning the title. It was all about betting industry and betting mafias making influence over the game results.Perhaps you are right in some extent. I think that in Spain, the same happens. We have boundaries but it's the same mentality. It happened in Italy with Juventus and in France with Marseille. But in England (or Germany) i don't believe in that one bit. That's why i used it like an example. I wish i wasn't so sentimentally attached to Sporting. It would be easier for me to stop following football. Damm you Father and Grandpa
Nope mate. Moggi also picked and asked for refs in certain games. It's in wiretappings. Same type of behaviour we have seen in certain clubs here in Portugal.
Truth about Moggi, but also truth that he was getinng overpaid by betting mafias by doing it. He was probably doing, as we say in portuguese, "Juntar o útil ao agradável".
True on both counts.Truth about Moggi, but also truth that he was getinng overpaid by betting mafias by doing it. He was probably doing, as we say in portuguese, "Juntar o útil ao agradável".
But the incredible thing is: with all this messy stuff, disorganization, super-agents and super agent enterprises influences over the clubs, we manage to get competitive clubs at UEFA competitons. The law of "desenrasca" always finds a way in Portugal
You should stick to the three big clubs, the games between them and the occasional Braga and Guimarães match. The rest is usually boring. The problem with portuguese football isn't the quality of the players, it's quality of the boards and the directors.
All peripherical leagues are "damaged" by the money injection from the tycoons who bought clubs all over Europe, not only a problem from the portuguese league. As I said, we are mainly used as a showcase so the tycoon owned clubs come and get the players for overpriced values, where probably 40-50% of that transfer is divided by agent fees, lawyer fees, etc, etc
Yeah, I always tended to have a preference for Sporting I guess because of Figo, Ronaldo, Nani coming through the ranks and that. I'll have a look tomorrow if I can.All peripherical leagues are "damaged" by the money injection from the tycoons who bought clubs all over Europe, not only a problem from the portuguese league. As I said, we are mainly used as a showcase so the tycoon owned clubs come and get the players for overpriced values, where probably 40-50% of that transfer is divided by agent fees, lawyer fees, etc, etc
It doesn't mean the leagues can't still have quality. The problem is that most of those players that come from some sources will play, no mather what
In my opinion, the portuguese league has some nice games to watch. Braga, Rio Ave and Guimarães usually display good football to watch, even though Guimarães are in a bad form at the moment.
Sporting will probably be a good club to watch for the neutrals, since Jorge Jesus likes to implement a high pace + high pressure system, who eventually breaks the players stamina at long term in the season.
It always was, nothing new.
It depends on what you like, if you want to see better games, in theory should be between the 3 main clubs, more Braga and Guimarâes, but this year they look crap, maybe better Rio Ave instead.
No problem, ignore the crap we write here, we are not perfect, but I guess we will always have our "ups" and "downs", imo the picture in 2014 was more "dark" than today regarding new players, even if we have a likeable guy as NT head coach but with way outdated football concepts for my taste.
It's not too far, it's banter.
Common common, I wouldn't say, but it is quite normal to have games between Friday to Monday, so tomorrow you can "watch" Feirense vs Sporting in Portugal starts at 7 p.m dunno where you are, or Benfica vs Portimonense at 9 p.m.
Jeez, sounds like Schulzes, Merkels and Timmermans of this world ('My right is the rightest!!!!') rather than Hitler/Goebbels. I'd also be careful with the use of 'Nazis' and 'Hitler' everywhere, as a Pole whose family experienced their methods too well (find me a Pole whose didn't) I'm appalled by the liberal use and nicknaming everyone like that. Smacks of extreme leftist approach to discredit anyone who doesn't jump on a bandwagon.
Exactly what I was thinking. Mini Me
I see where you are coming from, but as someone with a more detached perspective on Nazism I understood straight away he referred to the use of communication and propaganda and reactions they try to elicit, not content.
I'd say that can't be real, but it wouldn't surprise me with those two dildo salesmen.
Is this real?
He's right that our president is a populist that says a lot of shit, no need to make that comparison though.
People that take their time to know things like this are the normal portuguese fan by the way. Imagine a Bournemouth fan complaining about Ed Woodward leaving his wife for a Manchester United employee... it would be nuts. Not here. Football shows in England are about the goals and some analysis. In Portugal shit like this is subject to a 1 hour discussion on national TV.
He's wrong about this too. Plenty of sporting fans talk against the president especially the way he speaks out to the press and creates unnecessary drama, he got 90% of the votes because he's done a very good job and put our club into a much healthier position not because he's brainwashed Sporting fans with propaganda speeches.
Had a look at their forum and some ITKs they trust say it's genuine. Apparently, the leak came from the club, in an attempt to prove they did bid.
No idea on right or wrong, just popped in for a read because I have a (minor) soft spot for Sporting Lisbon.
