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Whereas what you gave was cold, hard fact. So you think Alli and Kane were two of the three most expensive players in the world at the end of last season then?
I'm loving how the Martial vs Rashford discussion has toned down and moved on to Rashford vs Mbappe/CR7/CR9.
People saying there are similarities between his and Ronaldo's attitude doesn't mean he's been compared to Ronaldo.
Nobody has even mentioned the Brazilian Ronaldo with respect to him. Why do people post stuff like this?
It adds more to the discussion than some CIES thing. At least check their previous articles to see how crap their observations/formulas are. Milner was the best or second best LB last season, Rojo, Smalling all among top 5 CBs in the world in Van Gaal's first season, Jones was the best young CB in the world.
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19's fine, but I'm sure if he wants a relatively big number 10 will be available soon, and while not as historic as the 7, three of our best strikers of all-time have worn in in Rooney, Hughes, and RVN, and Zlaten will wear it this year. I only really see #7 as a big deal. Keane and Scholes both wore non-1 through 11 jerseys, and are arguably two of the clubs top 5 to 10 players of all time.
Is CR9 supposed to be Brazillian Ronaldo aka Ronaldo Nazario aka Fat Ronaldo? If so, the only person to compare Rashford to Brazillian Ronaldo is Brazilian Ronaldo.
It isn't a contradiction. He's a top talent in comparison to other players in his age group but I don't see him being a key player for a team in the future when at a peak age.
I know the talent Madrid has, it doesn't mean you can create a track record out of thin air because of it.
We haven't seen enaugh of him so let's give him a proven track record than a regular starter for Utd who's also a year younger.
He can't take penalties so let's say he is a wonderful penalty taker as well?
bingo
the Super via Europa is not elite. Top after 3 games isn't saying much and Leicester won the title as did Chelsea. I do not regard them Elite. Elite are the best in Europe. Just winning a domestic league, one that fails to make a mark against the best of Europe is not Elite. You are speaking after 3 bloody matches and before we even kicked a ball in the CL. Might want to wait a bit. We started with 3 wins last season and came 6th and Won the Europa (Europe's lower tier). We have only added 2 players since. Thats quite a jump!
Both indeed. But Rashford is a top talent, that should be clear for all to see. But also clear that he isnt Mbappe/Acensio level talent. He falls a bit short which I cant blame him for. He is later in his development.
Nothing to do with it. It's the profile of his club. United will not sell a player they want to keep for a 'fair market price'. Our job isn't to be reasonable to buyers. We are rich enough to resist 'reasonable'.
Rashford is an excellent prospect as is Mbappe, but what the lather has achieved albeit for 6 months is far superior to Rashford's.
Hell Anthony Martial has had a better single season than Rashford, he really must have a true break out season before we begin to talk about him in thesame breath as the rest. Am sorry but the numbers don't support him for now. Here's hoping he becomes our own messi for years.
Hell Anthony Martial has had a better single season than Rashford, he really must have a true break out season before we begin to talk about him in thesame breath as the rest. Am sorry but the numbers don't support him for now. Here's hoping he becomes our own messi for years.
Exactly. Saying No club will offer xyz sum for Rashford is just waste of time, they won't as long as ManUtd want to keep the player, they won't pay huge sum when club thinks he isn't good enough for ManUtd.
Okay mate. Let's remember to continue this chat much later in the season to confirm whether or not United is an elite team.
Rashford is clearly a talent but nowhere near the same level as Mbappe and Asensio.
I'd agree with this.
The comparisons with Mbappe are terribly tiresome and it's only 3 games in. Unsurprisingly some fans have gotten a bit overboard again.
There are far more posts about people moaning about him being compared to Mbappe/Asensio rather than him being compared to Mbappe/Asensio.
What a great talent we have it has to be said. The potential with him, Martial and Lukaku with Pogba following up is immense.
Well he quite clearly is near to Martial
Don't want to debate about whether he's close to Dembele or not, as I've seem Dembele only in CL matches and YouTube videos but it's hilarious how you say he only ended up with five league goals and compare him to a player like Dembele who scored 6 goals himself in the league whilst playing with a much more attacking lineup. Also please don't say he's a striker, he hardly played in the striker's position last season.
And Martial who scored 4 goals.
I was just checking the minutes played by both of them last season. I was under the impression that Rashford has played a lot, lot more than Martial, however I was proved wrong. Rashford played around 1717 minutes whilst Martial played around 1554 minutes which is a difference of around 170 mins spread throughout the season which is actually nothing(stats according to Squawka).
Yeah Martial, Mkhitaryan and Rashford played almost same number of mins. Rashford played more in Europa but in league they played more or less same number of mins.
Go back a few pages. It's since been a debate about how rashford arguably isn't on their level, which only came about because a few posters decided to put him in the same boat as Asensio and Mbappe.
Key word being a few.
For every single outrageous post there is bound to be more than one person quoting to disagree with it. Even with that in mind I don't really see how there are more people moaning about overhyping than those actually overhyping. You should skip a few pages back to see some of the posts.
Hence slightly better than welbeck, considering the amount of time welbeck wae out injured.
Rashford hasnt played in the CL yet but has an EL winners medal. Not the same level, I know, but hed blitz that French league. Mbappe scoring 27 goals over there means feck all. We all know another Monaco legend that came to the Premier League and couldnt score a goal to save his life here and at Chelsea.
We'll see
Its too early to say if Rashford will be world class or better or worse than Asensio - What can be said with surety is that he has the talent and the attitude/drive that a player should have in order to become world class.
There werent any obvious indications two years ago that Asensio would become this good. The same could be true for Rashford, in 2 yrs time he could develop into a genuine world beater. The only thing that can take him to that level is if he maintains his desire to improve as a player,i believe the talent is there.
Mbappe has played a few months of great football - i dont understand how people can say with surety that he's better than rashford.
There werent any obvious indications two years ago that Asensio would become this good. The same could be true for Rashford, in 2 yrs time he could develop into a genuine world beater. The only thing that can take him to that level is if he maintains his desire to improve as a player,i believe the talent is there.
Mbappe has played a few months of great football - i dont understand how people can say with surety that he's better than rashford.
Significantly better than Welbeck.
It's not even about how good Mbappe was for six months. It's the fact that it was only six months. I'm not saying I think Rashford will end up being a better player, but it's mad that people think it's so ridiculous when they have so little evidence about him yet. Think about all the mediocre players who've been the best in the PL for five or six months over the years. Then think about how much easier it is to do that in the French league in a team who are blowing everyone else away. We just don't know how good Mbappe is going to be yet.
Rashford - 60M
Rashfordez - 100M
Rashfordinho - 165M
Rashfordez - 100M
Rashfordinho - 165M
You hold the preconceived notion that adding Spanish/Portuguese affixes in one's name makes him a more valuable and rated footballer. However, you could accept that while Rashford is a good talent Mbappe & Asensio are on a slightly steeper trajectory at the moment
PSG and Real Madrid obviously do. Mbappe is a generational talent and its pretty obvious regardless if its six months to a year. The impact he's had in his league, CL and in his international games is akin to other young stars like Rooney, Owen, Messi etc.
While Rashford is a top talent, its absolutely clear to every set of eyes that aren't red tinted that Mbappe is a higher level talent. What I will say though about Rashford is his mental toughness along with his talent will take him very far. I'm just not as sure about him as I am of Mbappe.
Well, we will have to see ain't it ? I mean yes he has scored more than what welbeck has done, but then he is sorrounded by players we havent seen the likes when welbeck was around. This squad is almost at its peak with some quality players while during welbecks time, there were few players who were in their peak. Proof of that is we almost got rid of the whole squad almost immediately after his first break out season. Players like nani, jinsung park , cleverly were gone as they were past their peak, we had anderson as our midfielder, berbatov as one of the strikers etc. Compare that to what we have now, players like zlatan, mikhitaryan, pogba, herrera, martial who is a special talent etc. I am not hating on rashford, and i would be very happy ifnhe succeds, its just that i think his gameplay makes me seems as if doesn't improve his conversion he might end up like any other young strikers who brokethrough like a genius but could not carry it much further.
Exactly the point. Regardless of the team they are playing, these players are looking smarter and sharper. Mbappe proved against some better defences in ucl and asensio too has to be special to fit into that zidane's team. Rashford has to improve in the sense , he needs to be smarter. The talent is obviously there .
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