Well because apparently, it would detract from the men's team and prevent us from "getting back to winning ways" somehow. Exactly how that would work is anyone's guess though.
Why do we not have a women's team?
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Yep, and I can say it's absurd if I want. That's kind of how a forum works.
Yeah I'm not calling for anyone to get banned or anything. I'm just saying what you're saying about him being strange, is also strange.
Well I think you saying that what I'm saying about his view being strange is strange. So where do we go from here?!
Dunno. Strangeways?
If they aren't ramming gays down our throat on Eastenders, it's a few links that I don't have to click on, on their website. Damn the BBC for battering and bruising my throat with its PC agenda.
Jesus wept, you think that gay people shouldn't be represented in soap operas?!
He's taking the piss mate, was some shit posted by someone else in a similar thread.
Was an unholy row in another thread in the CE where some posters' prejudices surprised quite a few of us, shall we say.
Quite!Tbh, the idea of a women's team is offensive to feminists and all that they have been fighting for. The foundation of their movement is the idea that gender is a social construct and that we should be treated identically, so simply opening up professional football so that women can play in the men's team if they're good enough would be the only fair way.
I don't know who is being serious and who isn't any more!
Its not a priority and not critical to the survival of United. Nor will it gain much or else the Glazers would be on it in a hurry. Having a women's team is just arguing for the sake of it. There's nothing much to be gained except for bowing to outside pressure and PC agendas.
Well how about having a Manchester United team that a generation of young girls could grow up aspiring to play for? Or is that of no value to you?
Unless United was founded so that boys could grow up having a team to aspire to play for, I see no reason why we should create a women's team for that very purpose. And to answer your question, it's of no value to most men having a team young girls can aspire to play for, especially when there are countless teams they could choose to play for. I imagine millions of boys grow up aspiring to play for United but only a handful actually achieve that goal.
United was founded almost 150 years ago, quite a lot has changed since then. And speak for yourself, I'm a 42 year old man that's been supporting United all his life and whilst I, personally, wouldn't have much interest in watching a United ladies team, I reckon my 8 year old daughter, who also supports United, would love it. What's the problem with the idea? What makes you so against the idea that you'll happily argue against it? I'm struggling to find any reason apart from chauvinism to be honest...
Who are 'We' here. We supporters? We members of the club? We trainers and administration staff? We players? We men? We women and men who are into Manchester United?
Who are 'we' here? You?
Who are 'we' here? And who are 'them'?
Them = In the case of a group being referred to, him/her can be substituted by they or them.
We = Manchester United
Any more questions?
Brilliant. Shows there that United had a womens team officially from 1989/90.
I took the liberty to repost this in the 'Manchester United FC Ladies team' thread
If you would, please think again and try to answer the same questions once more.
Been thinking about this and I think this is one of those cases where the management needs to think beyond the current business model. Yeah there is not a lot (or maybe any) money to be made from fielding a women's team right now, but in the future there is a good chance it will. Additionally it is a good way to build up good will with a large part of the potential and actual customer base. There really is not a lot of down side for the club to starting the women's team back up. I could imagine that the club could even pull in a bit more sponsorship money to cover the cost quite easily.
HeheI don't know who is being serious and who isn't any more!
I see no chance that it will ever pull in revenue. People don't come to see the under 15's in droves or watch pub teams in their thousands because it's just not very good. Similarly, realistically, women's football is equally unlikely to ever command a large fanbase.....
There were a series of adverts recently for Women's football on Facebook where they had edited explosions and 'trails of fire' on the ball to make it seem interesting. It still didn't, but the fact that they felt that this was necessary says everything.
United, like pretty much every other organization, is in the business of making money. If having a women's team were seen as being financially advantageous, we would have a women's team.
30,596 people paid to watch the US womens team beat NZ's womens team 5-0 last night in a friendly. I suspect that pulled in quite a bit of revenue when you also add in the tv broadcast rights. Interesting because it was just a friendly.Hehe
I see no chance that it will ever pull in revenue. People don't come to see the under 15's in droves or watch pub teams in their thousands because it's just not very good. Similarly, realistically, women's football is equally unlikely to ever command a large fanbase.....
There were a series of adverts recently for Women's football on Facebook where they had edited explosions and 'trails of fire' on the ball to make it seem interesting. It still didn't, but the fact that they felt that this was necessary says everything.
There is a trend taking place that people who dont actually play grassroots football or have any involvement in grassroots football are completely unaware of. The growth of the womens game over the last 20 years has been huge, the current growth continues at a very steady pace. That coupled with social changes regarding sport, how its watched and by who its watched by give a clear indication that womens football has a growing fanbase.
You dont have to have a huge fanbase to have a viable pro competition. Scotlands 1st division is a pro division where the average attendance of some teams is under 1000 per week. A couple of young women i used to coach here in NZ now play football for Universities in the US and play in front of 3000 to 4000 people every week. Thats unpaid.
There are lower league teams in UK mens football with players who are full time pro players. They earn no more than the average worker but they are full time pro players. Thats for teams with attendances less than 1000 a week.
People watch football because they love the game. If people only watched teams that were very good we wouldnt have the thousands of pro football clubs playing all around the world.
Some of the arguments in here are really ignorant of the actual football community as opposed to those who only watch the big teams on tv.
2015-2016 EPL season, 12 teams made a profit, total profit 153 million. 8 teams made a loss., total loss 270 million.
We have a girls team, trouble is once they turn 16 they have to go join other clubs. If its about making money why on earth do we have a girls team?
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Make it happen Woody! Giggs as manager with Rooney as assistant.
To satisfy people who complain that there isn't a girl's team
That's why it makes sense for those of us who want United to run a women's team to keep complaining.
I feel that the name Manchester United is so symbolic and important that the club has a duty to form a women's team.
There aren't any reasonable excuses. I realise that they're not likely to fill out Old Trafford, but making it available for the odd occasion (title deciders etc) would be good enough, while they play their regular fixtures elsewhere
I don't doubt that it's a risk for the club, that it would lose money at first and the attendances wouldn't be all that, but once again - the chance to say you play for Manchester United would naturally attract a competitive level of player.
There aren't any reasonable excuses. I realise that they're not likely to fill out Old Trafford, but making it available for the odd occasion (title deciders etc) would be good enough, while they play their regular fixtures elsewhere
I don't doubt that it's a risk for the club, that it would lose money at first and the attendances wouldn't be all that, but once again - the chance to say you play for Manchester United would naturally attract a competitive level of player.
I am surprised by how many posters feel the reason to not have a womens team is that it wouldn't be viable. MUFC are the richest club in the world but are one of the few to not have a womens team.
Our sisters and daughters deserve the opportunity to play for MUFC. Money seems to have pervaded every facette of our lives including the sporting ethic.
Our sisters and daughters deserve the opportunity to play for MUFC. Money seems to have pervaded every facette of our lives including the sporting ethic.
Maybe there is a subliminal message in that statement somewhere?
Basically its not what we do! Its not the club being anti-women, there have been amateur Man Utd Ladies Team (may still be one), its about running the club as a world wide branded entity. You can bet that if it ever it becomes essential for sponsorship deals or for example the PL requires all PL Clubs to have a Women's professional football team, then United would have one.
Not saying you're wrong of course, but isn't it a bit sad that that is what it would take? As opposed to the club just wanting to help progress the women's game?
No, the Glazer family is in the business of making money. MUFC is in the business of playing football. Making money is a means, not an end. I support MUfC, not the Glazer Family, though I hope they don't go bankrupt, as it might hurt the football club.
The football club should, in 2017, have opportunities for women as well as men to play football and represent the football club, though.
Good point!
Why do they have to wait for the club to give the go ahead? Can't they just start their own team? Manchester Ladies or something? Why do they need the club to set it up?
To use the branding / image rights etc.
They could have an unofficial one sure, but it would be small fish in comparison to a United financed/backed one.
It's not what We do because They (The Glazers inc) decided it's what we should quit doing. They undoubtedly see the club as a Brand Entity, I can't see why supporters of the football club should adopt their view. I certainly see it as a Football Club. It shouldn't need saying out loud, really.
But then aren't they just riding on the success of the men's team?
If they started their own thing and it was good enough, people would watch it.