Eh, Jose is right. Scholes couldn’t keep his mouth shut as soon as we started to go downhill, he became a proper rent-a-quote. We don’t need our ex-players sticking the knife in every time we drop points. Scholes is my favourite ever player but his punditry is crap and most of the time he’d have been better off saying nothing.
Mourinho's comments on Scholes
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What makes me laugh about all of this is the fact José basically did what Scholes suggested and he was far more influential in that Everton game than the previous matches.
Personally don’t think Pogba is at his best in a midfield two. He should not be given defensive duties when his strength is all attacking based.
Personally don’t think Pogba is at his best in a midfield two. He should not be given defensive duties when his strength is all attacking based.
To be fair, that is the only thing Mourinho said that was a bit daft...his reaction after he said it suggested he knew this to.
He just did.
Personally I feel these comments are pretty justified given the rubbish that has come out of Scholes' mouth since he's become a pundit. Talks absolute garbage and offers very little insight.
Im sure Scholes would love to take credit for this win and not the shit show that was Stoke 2-2 or the many other shit shows we've had with a midfield 3.
If all you need to do is follow some cliche fan advice of a midfield 3 to be a top manager then he wouldnt be paid so much money to manage.
Disagree completely. Pogba has still been one of our best players but since his return he has been strolling and not looking comfortable in the past few games. Today was like looking at a different player.
Now I know Scholes and Souness look at the Pogba situation in a very black and white sort of way and are prone to exaggeration but I can definitely see where they are coming from and to call it idiocy is extreme.
There was nothing wrong with what Scholes said and Mourinho's comments aren't surprising or particularly shocking, it's a bit like SAF regarding Pardew.
If Jose wants to criticise Scholes' punditry then fine. But he's too petulant and takes snide digs. It's not very becoming for a professional manager to resort to that. There's no reason to pick a fight with Scholes anyway. Save it for rivals if you must pick fights.
You have to ask yourself why Mourinho needed to comment on the issue the way he did. Just skip it.
It's your post that is awful. Jose's comments are bang out of order, speaking about money especially was very small from him. Totally uncalled for.
Agree on Neville but Scholes means well most of the time.
If Ferguson was in charge and came out on said this about Scholes, just as he's done with Ince, Keane, Beckham and countless others he proably be right, in fact I doubt scholes would even have said it in the first place. Mourinho responds though, and its a Redcafe meltdown.
Basically this. We've played with a midfield three in the past, we just stopped because it was shite and not working
Getting sick of José. Just shut and get the team together
Scholes is just like any regular United fan, he doesn’t say anything when United win but criticises everything when we lose. But he is honest and means well as he obviously loves the club more than any one on this forum.
He is not a great pundit, he is never going to be a great analyst like G.Nev, and even Ryan Giggs. He just says it how it is like any of us lot. No expert analysis or opinion, just straight up fan criticism and opinion. He should try to keep the criticism down a notch as it is what the media want, they lap it up.
He is not a great pundit, he is never going to be a great analyst like G.Nev, and even Ryan Giggs. He just says it how it is like any of us lot. No expert analysis or opinion, just straight up fan criticism and opinion. He should try to keep the criticism down a notch as it is what the media want, they lap it up.
About Mou mate.
He is protecting the players, he doesn’t want people on the outside criticising his players, ans why should he. Ex players (bar Keano) would not have dreamed to say a word about Sir Alex when United were going through a slight bad patch.
The only thing I can think of is he was taking issue with the comments regarding Pogba strolling around and not being fit, but really those were critiques of Pogba, he seems to be directly responding to Scholes critique of how Jose uses Pogba, and that is stupid as he followed exactly what Scholes said.
There was a period during the LVG time when fans were trying to write off his criticism as part of a plan to get Giggs the job. Machiavellian scheming because Scholes was calling dull football dull.
That's nonsense there are far more deserving players that Scholes could have picked for criticism but this is the same rubbish we have seen to many times from him and Gary Neville
They did the same to Moyes they did the same to LVG and they are going for Jose now .
United fans have got to see through them by now . They want to be in charge and make it all about them .
It's a shame that this only affects Utd I don't see other clubs ex players continually try this on with their clubs.
That's why i respect Keane and especially Rio more as when they take aim at us as pundits they are not doing it with this agenda the class of 92 pundits are using
You lot need to calm down, such a sensitive bunch. It seems to be the same people being sick of Mou and annoyed at him, obviously the ones who couldn’t wait for United to have a slight bad spell to stick their knives in.
Absolutely. I don't get why they do it, though..It's not like it is a pre-requisite for now pundits, previously, former players to be unbiased to their past sides. Just look at Mcmamananm or whatever he will go about defending Liverpool with no worries and hesitation but for some reason class 92 feel they have an obligation to criticize during tough moments or when it comes ref decisions too.
The money comment was pretty petty.
No, as much as I don't like him, I just want him to mind the business at hand and not get drawn into this media drama. He should be experienced to know that he never won a battle against the media. He's acted like a real noob here.
And how is he protecting his players by putting them on the spot light. No one talked about Lukaku's drought until José brought it up. No one took Scholes comments beyond that day. Now off the back of 1 win in 4 he does this? You'll what will happen if we bottle the next game.
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Why don't you put the the full video in the OP instead of picking out specific quotes and taking them out of context?
Scholes called Pogba unfit and said that he strolls through games. This was Jose sticking up for his player. Also spare me with the "war with a club legend" stuff. This wasn't Jose responding to "Paul Scholes, United Legend", this was Jose taking a shot at "Paul Scholes, BT Sport paid pundit"
He was asked a question by a journalist. Yes he could have said no comment, but actually, with the amount of punditry criticism by ex 'Fergie' united players, one who has managed and been shite at it and another who has never had the balls or perhaps inclination to do it, then I think fair's fair. I thought Mourinho was very respectful to Scholes standing as a former player at United.
That's just fecking stupid.
People just can’t wait to criticise Mou for anything. They would love to see the back of Mourinho and you can tell from a mile off.
Legend thing aside, Neville, Scholes etc are just doing what they do for money, they are pundits for a tv channel who covers the United games, they do nothing to help the club or team at all. Be it slating or praising, fairly or unfairly they do it for cash and nothing else, earning money in a way they still can from all they know, football. Nevile is a failed manager, Scholes has so far never tried it, he's trained a few kids. Mourinho whilst I'm sure loves his lifestyle and paycheck in the bank, IS actually trying to get us back to the top, he HAS actually won us 3 trophies and gotten us back into the CL after the mess of Moyes.
I just wanna watch the game, if I can't be there, not interesting in what Scholes etc has to say most of the time. Most pudnits over react at times too.
Rio especially, legend on and off the field. Quite frankly, I actually think he's the best chance of succeeding as a manager if he ever decides to go ahead. Always insightful and level headed.
I don't agree.
The criticism of players is loaded with the "strolls around, gets paid millions, not good enough" sentiment that pervades the entire apparatus of sports media. That's what Jose is getting at. That players who aren't as good as those in the past are paid more these days isn't a tool with which you can beat them when they have shit games. They don't set the market rates, they just play football.
For a case study in this phenomena just rewind to Lingard's most recent contract. People did nothing but cite his wages as a tool of criticism when he had off games, as if he were robbing the club.
Sorry can’t agree with this, just because they are ex-players doesn’t mean they should be biased towards the club. That is why I practically hate all Liverpool supporting pundits because they always have bias. Look at Mark Lawerson’s predictions for the Premier League, he hasn’t had Liverpool to lose a game for two seasons now. That just comes across more embarrassing because he is paid to be subjective.
Also Scholes questioned Pogba not using his physicality. Today he did. Great management from Scholes. Got a performance from Pogba
In that context he may have a point, but I'm not aware if Scholes made any reference to Pogba's wage.