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Thats looking really nice, with your PSU being modular you could in the future get some nice custom cables to fit in with the white on the motherboard. either way its looking a lot better than my first build ever did.
 

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Well my 660ti finally kicked the bucket last week and despite me trying to hold off replacing it so I can try to have a productive few weeks, I'm getting heavy withdrawal.

Whats the deal with GPU prices nowadays? Is this down to them bloody crypto currencies? I have to pay £250 to get anything better than my 4 year old budget card apparently.

I was hoping £250 to be my limit so is the 1060 6gb my only real option? Would another £100 for a 1070 be worth it in the long run? I'm content not running games on max settings.
 

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Well my 660ti finally kicked the bucket last week and despite me trying to hold off replacing it so I can try to have a productive few weeks, I'm getting heavy withdrawal.

Whats the deal with GPU prices nowadays? Is this down to them bloody crypto currencies? I have to pay £250 to get anything better than my 4 year old budget card apparently.

I was hoping £250 to be my limit so is the 1060 6gb my only real option? Would another £100 for a 1070 be worth it in the long run? I'm content not running games on max settings.
Pretty much, it's not a great time to buy a GPU.

A while back i manged to sell my RX480 for £100 more than i got it for as i knew it was a GPU miners loved to use, ended up upgrading to a 1070 with the extra money.

Do you only want an Nvidia? I haven't checked lately but you might be able to get a RX580 for that price. Also depends on what resolution and quality you want to play at.
 

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I've got the same case as that with a modular PSU @Vidic_In_Moscow, it's so satisfying how neatly it fits together :drool:


Right, my build is complete now with a GTX 1070 being delivered later today :drool:. I'm looking to sell my old machine but have absolutely no idea what I should advertise it for. Specs are as follows:

Intel Core i7 Extreme OC'd to 4.0ghz
14gb of RAM (2x3gb, 2x4gb dual channel)
EVGA GTX 960 SSC
500gb HDD

Any suggestions? The CPU is old now but it still has the grunt for current games as they're still not very well optimised for multi threading.
 

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I've got the same case as that with a modular PSU @Vidic_In_Moscow, it's so satisfying how neatly it fits together :drool:


Right, my build is complete now with a GTX 1070 being delivered later today :drool:. I'm looking to sell my old machine but have absolutely no idea what I should advertise it for. Specs are as follows:

Intel Core i7 Extreme OC'd to 4.0ghz
14gb of RAM (2x3gb, 2x4gb dual channel)
EVGA GTX 960 SSC
500gb HDD

Any suggestions? The CPU is old now but it still has the grunt for current games as they're still not very well optimised for multi threading.
I would be looking for at least 300 quid - maybe more if you can get it. That will play Battlegound with no problems for example (bar the inherent ones).
 

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I would be looking for at least 300 quid - maybe more if you can get it. That will play Battlegound with no problems for example (bar the inherent ones).
I've not found anything it won't play at at least medium settings at 1080p. It's hopefully a good time of year to be selling too.

92 deliveries before my 1070 arrives and that counter hasn't changed for 30 minutes :(
 

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Just to make you all jealous, I was in the presentation of this peace of beauty (photo taken from me):



Is anyone planning to get it? It is going to cost only $2999.
 

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Nah feck that.

Save your money and get the next series **70 or **80 card it will have similar performance whilst costing a third of the price.
 

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Just to make you all jealous, I was in the presentation of this peace of beauty (photo taken from me):



Is anyone planning to get it? It is going to cost only $2999.
I was going to but then found out we're limited to only two per customer so I didn't bother. It's absolutely preposterous though and incredibly niche market. Basically developers and AI enthusiasts.
 

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Nah feck that.

Save your money and get the next series **70 or **80 card it will have similar performance whilst costing a third of the price.
It won't have similar performance IMO. Regardless, this GPU isn't aimed at gamers. It is a machine learning GPU, and Jensen Huang chose to reveal it in a party organised from NVIDIA in the largest machine learning conference of the year (of all time for that matter). He didn't mention gaming at all during the presentation.
 

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I was going to but then found out we're limited to only two per customer so I didn't bother. It's absolutely preposterous though and incredibly niche market. Basically developers and AI enthusiasts.
You were going to buy it alone, or the lab of your university? For universities, they will sell more than 2 per person. In fact, they already asked me if we were planning to upgrade our GPU cluster which we just bought.
 

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Nah feck that.

Save your money and get the next series **70 or **80 card it will have similar performance whilst costing a third of the price.
Nah this will be ahead of that generation through sheer brute power. They will bottleneck the 80s somewhere so they can't be utilised the same way using SLI. As I said above, this is a niche card aimed at allowing developers to test on the same machine they develop on and as Revan said it's for machine learning so they can build deep neural networks.

You were going to buy it alone, or the lab of your university. For universities, they will sell more than 2 per person. In fact, they already asked me if we were planning to upgrade our GPU cluster which we just bought.
It was going to be for myself but then I woke up all hot and sticky.
 

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Nah this will be ahead of that generation through sheer brute power. They will bottleneck the 80s somewhere so they can't be utilised the same way using SLI. As I said above, this is a niche card aimed at allowing developers to test on the same machine they develop on and as Revan said it's for machine learning so they can build deep neural networks.
Indeed. This being so much better than 80/80Ti will actually be great. Titan has been the flagship of Nvidia but 80Ti usually either goes very near it on performance, or even surpasses it in some benchmark. This time it looks to be different.

NVIDIA has been one of the most important machine learning companies for a long time, and Huang has been trying to shift the company towards AI some time now. No surprise that their new flagship GPU is a ML-first GPU.

They should compensate though, and release 80Ti same time as they do with other GPUs (essentially 80Ti to be the new Titan, and Titan to be a real Titan, not an earlier version of 80Ti)
 

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Can anyone tell me how good this is for £350ish?

HP Z400 12GB RAM 500GB HDD Quad Core Xeon W3530 2.8Ghz workstation with Windows 10
Asus GeForce GTX Dual 1050 Ti OC 4GB GDDR5 graphics card
Dynamode 4 x USB3.0 port expander
Sandisk Ultra II 240GB SSD
 
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Can anyone tell me how good this is for £350ish?

HP Z400 12GB RAM 500GB HDD Quad Core Xeon W3530 2.8Ghz workstation with Windows 10
Asus GeForce GTX Dual 1050 Ti OC 4GB GDDR5 graphics card
Dynamode 4 x USB3.0 port expander
Sandisk Ultra II 240GB SSD
For gaming, or something else? CPU is rather dated, not too bad in performance, but rather inefficient in terms of performance per watt, and the platform is dated as well (mainboard, RAM). GPU is mainstream, i.e. good enough for most stuff at FullHD, without maxing out all settings.
Price seems good, although you won't be able to get replacement easily or for reasonable prices if one out of CPU/Mobo/Ram dies.
 

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For gaming, or something else? CPU is rather dated, not too bad in performance, but rather inefficient in terms of performance per watt, and the platform is dated as well (mainboard, RAM). GPU is mainstream, i.e. good enough for most stuff at FullHD, without maxing out all settings.
Price seems good, although you won't be able to get replacement easily or for reasonable prices if one out of CPU/Mobo/Ram dies.
It's for general use, although I might want to stream the odd football match, you never know :nervous:

The workstation is a supposed to be a refurbished approx 2 year old server, I believe. I am trying to get high spec for low price, the business reclaims the VAT on the purchase , so I get it VAT free. My brother's business partner put the spec together.

I already upset my brother once by even asking him for the spec :lol:
 

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It's got an SSD, so it won't feel as old as it is. The GPU is of the latest generation, so nothing wrong on that end (good for streaming all sorts of streams, even Netflix 4k). Provided CPU/Mobo/Ram hold on for a while longer, it's a good enough buy.
 

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It's got an SSD, so it won't feel as old as it is. The GPU is of the latest generation, so nothing wrong on that end (good for streaming all sorts of streams, even Netflix 4k). Provided CPU/Mobo/Ram hold on for a while longer, it's a good enough buy.
How do you mean?

The memory is up gradable to at least 24Gb, maybe even 48Gb.
 

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How do you mean?

The memory is up gradable to at least 24Gb, maybe even 48Gb.
I mean you never know when these things just decide to die. And that in this specific case, it would be hard to replace any of the three basic components i mentioned.

Ram size of 12GB is enough though, for normal office and gaming stuff.
 

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I mean you never know when these things just decide to die. And that in this specific case, it would be hard to replace any of the three basic components i mentioned.

Ram size of 12GB is enough though, for normal office and gaming stuff.
Maybe I'm fortunate, but I have never had a PC 'die' on me. My current one has slowed down so much that I'm tearing my hair out half the time waiting for it to do something, if that's what you mean?
 

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Nah, I mean really just stopping to work, because some part decides 'screw you, I'm done'. I had a mainboard and a graphics card die on me in the last 1.5 years, it just happens.

Concerning the slowdown of your current PC, I assume it has a HDD instead of a SSD?
 

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Can you list your current specs? The offer you got there is most likely a reasonable upgrade for you though.
 

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I hope I'm doing something right though :lol:

These are pretty high tech people, tbf, and my brother wouldn't tuck me up with something that wasn't fit for purpose. The last one he put together for me cost me, like, £100 or something and has lasted me for years.
Knowing the specs of your current system would really help in evaluating the change you are looking at ;)
These two small programs will read out all the interesting information:
https://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/
 

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Knowing the specs of your current system would really help in evaluating the change you are looking at ;)
These two small programs will read out all the interesting information:
https://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/
I will try and look when I get home from work, but it's XP, so it makes it at least 10 years old, but I seem to remember Vista may have been already round at the time, and nobody wanted to use that shit, so maybe a bit less than that.

It's got to the stage where I can barely even use my PC for anything at all. It takes so long to deal with the simplest command, if there is anything going on in the background. The internet takes an age to load, emails takes forever to open. I just see my life ebbing away every time I switch it on. :(

I gave up watching football on it last season, and now use my phone instead, which I also use for almost all internet browsing (yes my phone is more powerful than my PC). I mainly use it for internet banking, for the added security, and doing various spreadsheets or writing letters.

Basically, it's just a box in the corner that wastes huge amounts of my time.
 

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Alright, brace yourself:

XP version 2003 sp3

AMD Sempron 3100+ 1.8GHz 2Gb RAM.

Nvidia GeForce 6600

Oops, the device manager crashed (welcome to my world)

The disk is not even 50% used.
That graphics card feels a bit out of place in that setup.


Edit scratch that, was thinking of the GTX 660. As you were.
 

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I had components from those hardware generations as well, but I replaced those between around 2004 and 2008 :lol:
 

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RAM prices are crazy these days. It's holding me back from getting a Ryzen.