Do you want to see Pep at United?

[Giggsyking]

He is sure better than our current manager and will always be.

But he is infected with city blood and I would take Poch instead who is hungry for glory.

 

[JohnnyKills]

Most disgraceful thread of the year goes to this. Yes let us show to other rival fans of how we are begging their manager to join us. If Sir alex read this , he would lock this whole website. Disgraceful just disgraceful.

What's disgraceful about someone asking a question? And is anyone begging for Pep to join us? I can't see anyone doing that.

Not sure if you wrote that post or vomited it onto the page.

 

[JohnnyKills]

Footballing wise I probably admire him more now than I did when he was at Bayern, but I'd never want him here.

Even with Mourinho it's a bit like we've just got Chelsea's old coach.. And Matic.. And even Sanchez a little...

We need to act when a young coach makes waves at a decent sized, underachieving club. If a manager's got a clear idea, and you can see that on the pitch every week, and it aligns with what we as a club expect, sign him up.

"One of our own" is important. I don't want another clubs sloppy seconds.

Disagree with all of your post apart from the bolded part, which is bang on.

 

[Kostov]

Feck him, I never liked the guy anyway.

 

[Lord SInister]

Does it matter??

 

[overrated 92's]

First of all I want to make it clear this is NOT another thread to sing Man City's praises nor am I a City lover, I was chatting to a couple of friends today and this came up so I thought I'd make a thread on it.

Firstly as much as I hate to admit it, I can't deny that Pep is a brilliant coach, has won a lot trophies and most importantly brings a very distinguished style of play which many of us would dream to see at United. I don't think anyone here hand on heart can say they haven't felt jealous watching Man City this season and it does hurt because I can't stand them as a club however they've got a coach who fits into our traditions of attacking football and would understand the United DNA better than Jose. Again I'm not bashing Jose who is another great coach and has done amazing things in his career too. He was the best choice to replace SAF and we appointed him 3 years too late.

What I want to ask is do you envisage the possibility of Pep becoming our manager in the future? And do you think it can happen? I have seen his name pop up in next manager threads in the past even a couple of weeks ago he was there. Personally I'd love to see him at United before he retires and I don't see a problem even if he is managing City now. Things change very quickly in football. Who would've thought in the summer of 2015 that Jose would be our manager 1 year later? He is still quite young for a coach and given that he has spent only 4 and 3 years respectively at his previous clubs I don't expect Man City to be any different.
Pep isn't from Manchester and doesn't have any particular affiliation with Manchester and I don't see Man City the same way I see Liverpool. If you manage Liverpool you automatically rule yourself out of managing United in the future and vice versa. Does the same apply to Man City in your eyes?

We have plenty of transfer threads discussing players who might come to United and imagining how they would fit into the squad etc... so why should managers be any different? We should be aspiring to have the buy the best players and have the best coaches in our club. Is that not what football is all about ultimately?

If he did come here in the future it wouldn't be straight after he leaves Man City obviously. He would go somewhere else and then we could make a move. I see a lot of young players such as TFM, Tuanzebe, Chong, Gomes and even the likes of Martial and Rashford in 4/5 years time would really benefit from someone who improves players like Pep. Discuss.....

I would have to agree with your post's first reply, that ship has sailed, I can also put my hand on my heart and say I have never felt any jealousy watching City play, because the only time I've seen them was when they played us, also as a long time lurker before I joined the Caf. I'm really starting to get annoyed by the insistence from some, that we should have X amount of young players in the side, I no longer care about age and where our player hail from.

 

[JohnnyKills]

He is sure better than our current manager and will always be.

But he is infected with city blood and I would take Poch instead who is hungry for glory.

You know Matt Busby and Denis Law played for City right?

 

[Inigo Montoya]

You know Matt Busby and Denis Law played for City right?

In the days before the sheer hatred set in...

Law also had a spell at Torino before joining us

 

[Giggsyking]

You know Matt Busby and Denis Law played for City right?

Yes I Know and im over it, cause it was less rival at that time.

 

[JohnnyKills]

In the days before the sheer hatred set in...

Law also had a spell at Torino before joining us

Fair point but I think we have to accept that, no matter how fluky or distasteful their 'rise to power' has been, City are one of the elite now. And that elite is growing ever smaller, the best players and managers ever more concentrated.

If City remain among the elite (and they will, as long as the sheikhs don't get bored and leave) they'll continue to snap up the top players and managers. If we say that noone can ever join us if they've played for/managed City, we're cutting off our nose to spite our face and ignoring the reality of modern football IMO.

Anyway, no doubt another designer manager will emerge in the next couple of years and we'll all be talking about him instead of Guardiola.

 

[Mr Anderson]

If people complain about Mou being always a short-term manager. Pep is the same if not worse, because of the apparent sheer energy he puts into his style of management.

Mou in the right conditions is one that will be a longterm one. He wont face much grief off our board like Abromovic and Real Madrid gave him. He will also has more control here. It is a good environment for him.

Pep had that at other clubs, but left off his own accord. As good as he is, I think he is inclined to jump ship sooner rather than later.

 

[JohnnyKills]

If people complain about Mou being always a short-term manager. Pep is the same if not worse, because of the apparent sheer energy he puts into his style of management.

Mou in the right conditions is one that will be a longterm one. He wont face much grief off our board like Abromovic and Real Madrid gave him. He will also has more control here. It is a good environment for him.

Pep had that at other clubs, but left off his own accord. As good as he is, I think he is inclined to jump ship sooner rather than later.

Yeah no way is City a long-term project for Guardiola. He hadn't even heard of them before they won the lottery.

Imagine he'll want to go back to Barcelona as manager/president, and build a profile in Catalunya.

 

[Janson]

Looks like we are really doing a liverpool by starting threads like these. Like a poster said above, it makes us look like a small club instead of the big club that we are. You know, this poster weirdly reminds me of a friend of mine, who was a die-hard united fan but also a barcelona fan( ? ). He always used to go on about Pep this and Pep that, and that he would be a very good fit for united. I agreed with this and said that Pep would at the very least, would definitely not bore me to death like LVG did at that time. But after Pep came to city and mourinho came to united, he sstating that he would not support united as they hired mourino( you know the story) and for him, playing 'attacking football' was a number one priority. and a few months later, he openly stated that he was supporting city because his highness Pep Guardiola was managing them.

We fired a manager because he came out with quotes like ' we aspire to play like man city' or whatever. How can a United fan start a thread openly asking for coach of one our biggest rivals to come and manage us? I would never want him to manage us. In fact, if Mourinho is not upto the job, we should go for someone like a tuchel or allegri or even an emery to see what he can do. But guardiola or klopp( before someone starts a thread wanting him) are an absolute no. We are Manchester United and we should never employ someone who rejected us and went to work for those blue *****.

These are the fair weather fans these days. Wouldn't surprise me if many others have done the same or are planning to do so. You only have to look at these forums to understand what some of these fans are about.

 

[Red_toad]

If he's the best candidate for the job then yes. But I don't see him managing anywhere else in England that City.

 

[afrocentricity]

No, I appreciate the efficiency of his work but have always found his teams boring to watch.

This.

 

[wolvored]

I wonder if anyone else sees parallels with the Arsene - SAF rivalry? The former was always eulogized in the media for his passing football, compared to a fine wine .Sir Alex on the other hand was the tough Glasgow ruffian from the docks and his football was effective and entertaining but not this 'art ' that Wenger had going on in London. It's got some symmetry to the Pep versus Jose story. And for what it's worth, I was quite happy with the expert of man management over football purist before and am happy to stick with that now as well .

The difference is Fergies teams were entertaining as well unlike the football mourinho is putting out mainly

 

[wolvored]

I could see guardiola going to a London club in the future, but wont come back to manchester to manage utd

 

[Classical Mechanic]

I could see guardiola going to a London club in the future, but wont come back to manchester to manage utd

No London club will give him the money required to realise his system. The only way he goes to a London team is if he will inherit the best squad in football, like he did at Bayern.

 

[Adisa]

Yes.
I always wanted to see United play the positional game.
It's why I didn't want LVG sacked.
Getting the best manager to implement it would be even better.
It will never happen though.

 

[Grylte]

No.

Might aswell ask "If Gerrard becomes a manager, would you like to see him manage United?".

 

[Red_toad]

In the days before the sheer hatred set in...

Law also had a spell at Torino before joining us

I think people really need to look at themselves if they have any form of hatred for anyone associated with anther football club. It's just illogical...

United have a long history of taking players from our fiercest rivals, I have no issue with taking a manager, if they're the best candidate for the job.

 

[Andersons Dietician]

This thread is yet another embarrassment that you'd expect to see in the newbies, not on the main forums.

I however the people making it embarrassing are the people that have been in here for years with stupid comments.

I mean there is a simple way for them not to ruin threads, just don’t go in to them and write drivel. Most the traffic which is keeping this thread alive is people moaning about this thread. Let people who want to discuss it discuss it and those that don’t can feck off to another thread.
@abdo99 personally I think we’ll start to see more manager crossing the divides of tribalism. The pool of top quality managers is too small and there are so many teams with money. So I think we’ll see guys like Klopp or Pep ending up at bitter rivals. Probably not straight hops in to the job but unless something drastic happens, they retire,Jose stays forever, or something else i’d Imagine at some point it will happen anyway.

If later on after Jose and we need a manger then yeah i’d Want Pep. Right now I’d also want Poch.

 

[AshRK]

What's disgraceful about someone asking a question? And is anyone begging for Pep to join us? I can't see anyone doing that.

Not sure if you wrote that post or vomited it onto the page.

Pep will not join us. The question itself was a stupid one to begin with. By asking this question the poster wants pep to join us which is a disgrace. Maybe not for you but for me this post was disgraceful.

 

[Nytram Shakes]

Now on principle of course I don't want Pep at united.

but wind back two + years and you gave me a choice of Pep, Klopp and Mourinho then Mourinho would be bottom of that list by a very large margin so i find it very frustrating that we ended up with Mourinho and our two biggest rivals got two manager i prefer. Plus i would of loved to of seen how players like Rashford or Martial had progressed under Pep.

But now on principle no i could never see Pep or Klopp managing us.

 

[AshRK]

Now on principle of course I don't want Pep at united.

but wind back two + years and you gave me a choice of Pep, Klopp and Mourinho then Mourinho would be bottom of that list by a very large margin so i find it very frustrating that we ended up with Mourinho and our two biggest rivals got two manager i prefer.

But now on principle no i could never see Pep or Klopp managing us.

Klopp naa, pep maybe.

 

[mike bird]

This has got to be a joke. Are you seriously suggesting that Sir Alex has ever had a reputation for being an enemy of football and accused of negative tactics as much as Mourinho? Whether you think Fergie was like that or not is a different subject, but reputation wise? No, he has never been reputed for anything like to the point that you might argue the British media were biased. The reputation Mourinho has is only matched by some Italians really, the likes of Trappatoni or to a lesser extent Capello. Rafa had that image about him for a whole also although he is insignificant now. Again, not saying that Mourinho is in fact the way his reputation is but talking of reputations; Mourinho and Fergie are nothing alike.

I totally disagree, Jose and SAF are very much alike. I dont want to go into specifics, they have been already explained multiple times in here but I guess you seem to always know more that all the others in here and you think you are mighty right all the time.

 

[DWelbz19]

Of course. He’s the best manager in world football.

 

[mike bird]

Hell no!!! I hate his guts with a vengeance. I dont care how successful he will be with the bluemoon, I dont care if the win trebles every feckin year, I dont want to see his baldness in OT.

 

[Nytram Shakes]

Klopp naa, pep maybe.

meh Klopp teams are generally a lot more entertaining and looking at the league table he is only 2 points behind us with a worse squad.

Though I guess with Klopp you exchange attacking fluency for dodgy defending, but personally i prefer guess that better to watch then well drilled defensively but no attacking fluency. but everyone is different.

 

[mike bird]

Of course. He’s the best manager in world football.

Er, no. He is not.

Every single team he managed, had money and power along with a number of world class players. He would be an idiot not to succeed. Every single person in Barcelona has won something after he left. Every single person who took over his Bayern side, have won something since he left.

Stop worshiping the fraud.

 

[AshRK]

meh Klopp teams are generally a lot more entertaining and looking at the league table he is only 2 points behind us with a worse squad.

Though I guess with Klopp you exchange attacking fluency for dodgy defending, but personally i prefer guess that better to watch then well drilled defensively but no attacking fluency. but everyone is different.

Fair point. Even I prefer to watch attacking football but klopp reminds a lot of young wenger with less trophies to gloat about. Klopp cannot organise defence which is a major flaw and cannot help you win major trophies.

Jose's team may not be the best attacking wise but on comparison jose''s attacking football is much better than klopp's organising his team's defence.

 

[KranjskaKlobasa]

I see him in France with PSG and afterwards having a stint in Italy with one of the big three (Inter, AC Milan, Juventus).

 

[Dyslexic Untied]

No.

I am a bit tired of the whining about our style of play. First of all, I don't think it is that bad. We have poor games of course, but so do many others. When we are on form we look good IMO. Furthermore, I do not actually obsess with style of play that much either. It is secondary to winning, secondary also to promoting youth, and on here the SAF era is being treated in a revisionary way. We had teams under SAF which played great football, but we also had teams who weren't that brilliant on the eye. A lot of our greatness in that era was the result of brilliant individual players, and not necessarily as a result of a certain system.

I follow United because I actually like United. I prefer our guys over opposition guys. I like Mourinho more than Guardialo, just like I like Rashford or Lukaku more than Aguero. I'd rather watch us win with our guys than someone else. For the same reason I don't usually want us to offload players, in contrast to many threads on here about selling this player or that. There are better midfielders than Herrera, and better defenders than Rojo, but I like them because they are ours.

 

[Andycoleno9]

No. And never wanted him. Jose is better manager.

 

[Nytram Shakes]

Fair point. Even I prefer to watch attacking football but klopp reminds a lot of young wenger with less trophies to gloat about. Klopp cannot organise defence which is a major flaw and cannot help you win major trophies.

Jose's team may not be the best attacking wise but on comparison jose''s attacking football is much better than klopp's organising his team's defence.

l dunno i think thier very comparable, if you look at their history,

Dourtmunds defence was pretty solid when Hummels Subotic with Bender in front of them they were pretty good, Jose madrid side was pretty good going forward with all its attacking riches. Over the past few month we've seen Liverpools defensive improve becuase the have a better defender improving it rather then just better coaching.

For me Mourinho is very good at coaching and organising a defence but kind of relies on players been good going forward, while Klopp isn't very good at organising a defence but generally makes an attack better. Both make areas of their teams better then their sum of their parts one at the back one at the front, but both have issues in other areas.

Obviously Mourinho has been the more sucessful manager, i guess the issues comes when if your not winning watching a Klopp team can still be a lot of fun, Mourinho teams can be quite flat to watch.

 

[groovyalbert]

If he starts referring to us as "Manchester" again, and talking about club history/prestige I'd be down. As much for City/media reaction as anything.

 

[langster]

I don't think Sir Alex would let Pep manage United because then he would no longer be the greatest manager in the club's history

how can you say that Sir Alex is better than Pep with a straight face when it took Pep less than one year at Barcelona to make Sir Alex's greatest ever United team look like they were doing a mannequin challenge for 90 minutes in Rome.....

Two awful WUM posts. The second one is just ridiculous. Just because Pep had a better team doesn't make him a better manager. Sir Alex was at the very top for over 30 years in both Scotland and England.

It's not really worth responding to your post tbh as It's just so moronic and clearly bullshit.

 

[Paxi]

Didn't read the OP, but isn't Pep at City??

So how and the feck would he move to United?

 

[Paxi]

First of all I want to make it clear this is NOT another thread to sing Man City's praises nor am I a City lover, I was chatting to a couple of friends today and this came up so I thought I'd make a thread on it.

Firstly as much as I hate to admit it, I can't deny that Pep is a brilliant coach, has won a lot trophies and most importantly brings a very distinguished style of play which many of us would dream to see at United. I don't think anyone here hand on heart can say they haven't felt jealous watching Man City this season and it does hurt because I can't stand them as a club however they've got a coach who fits into our traditions of attacking football and would understand the United DNA better than Jose. Again I'm not bashing Jose who is another great coach and has done amazing things in his career too. He was the best choice to replace SAF and we appointed him 3 years too late.

What I want to ask is do you envisage the possibility of Pep becoming our manager in the future? And do you think it can happen? I have seen his name pop up in next manager threads in the past even a couple of weeks ago he was there. Personally I'd love to see him at United before he retires and I don't see a problem even if he is managing City now. Things change very quickly in football. Who would've thought in the summer of 2015 that Jose would be our manager 1 year later? He is still quite young for a coach and given that he has spent only 4 and 3 years respectively at his previous clubs I don't expect Man City to be any different.
Pep isn't from Manchester and doesn't have any particular affiliation with Manchester and I don't see Man City the same way I see Liverpool. If you manage Liverpool you automatically rule yourself out of managing United in the future and vice versa. Does the same apply to Man City in your eyes?

We have plenty of transfer threads discussing players who might come to United and imagining how they would fit into the squad etc... so why should managers be any different? We should be aspiring to have the buy the best players and have the best coaches in our club. Is that not what football is all about ultimately?

If he did come here in the future it wouldn't be straight after he leaves Man City obviously. He would go somewhere else and then we could make a move. I see a lot of young players such as TFM, Tuanzebe, Chong, Gomes and even the likes of Martial and Rashford in 4/5 years time would really benefit from someone who improves players like Pep. Discuss.....

Abundantly clear that this thread is NOT another Man City thread.

 

[Hellboy]

Of course, Pep's style suits United while Jose's would fit better at Citeh

 

[Sassy Colin]

Does it matter??

Does any of it matter?