Deflection at it's finest.
Disgraceful performance, team selection and tactics can't be washed over. He failed spectacularly.
Disgraceful performance, team selection and tactics can't be washed over. He failed spectacularly.
Jose Mourinho's press conference - Brighton (FA Cup) - 14:00 GMT
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Ugh he doesn't get it does he.
The backlash isn't down to losing to Seville, we've been knocked out of the CL by lesser teams during Fergie's reign.
It's the pathetic and cowardly fashion we crashed out in, sitting back at home against the fifth best team in Spain considering the attacking talents we had in our squad. Him doubling down like this does him no favours and only makes him across as condescending and delusional.
The backlash isn't down to losing to Seville, we've been knocked out of the CL by lesser teams during Fergie's reign.
It's the pathetic and cowardly fashion we crashed out in, sitting back at home against the fifth best team in Spain considering the attacking talents we had in our squad. Him doubling down like this does him no favours and only makes him across as condescending and delusional.
What a fecking twat. Just take some responsibility!
I actually thought that was a fantastic press conference. More or less completely shielding his players from the blame, which is important and I'd assume what he was trying to do.
http://www.sportingintelligence.com/2017/04/25/sharapova-guardiola-doping-darkness-and-light-250401/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sp...reak-three-anti-doping-rules-five-months.html
Just saying....
Edited to add another I forgot about....
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/pep-guardiolas-barcelona-breached-the-whereabouts-rule-wrqwrf78n
If you were him, why? He's doing a good job (in quantifiable terms) and I believe him when he says everyone behind the scenes is behind him. It's much easier to just give the press a big middle finger and continue with things as normal as possible.
Why couldn't he just admit that he fecked up with his tactics and team selection, acknowledge that and move on?
Why does he have to bring up how shit we were and make all these excuses? He really thinks he's better than the club doesn't he?
He had four transfer windows, that's four full windows to assess the squad and strengthen any areas he desired with pretty much a blank check. If after that he still complains about the quality of the squad he can truly feck off. No one to blame but himself. Four transfer windows and our plan A in our biggest game is to play long balls to Fellaini. This is a fecking travesty.
I can't believe there are actually fans who buy into this shit of how lucky we are to have him, such a small club that we are. Absolute madness. He'd be kicked out of any other big club for that.
And please stop with that whole "shielding his players" myth. He's shielding no one but himself.
Why does he have to bring up how shit we were and make all these excuses? He really thinks he's better than the club doesn't he?
He had four transfer windows, that's four full windows to assess the squad and strengthen any areas he desired with pretty much a blank check. If after that he still complains about the quality of the squad he can truly feck off. No one to blame but himself. Four transfer windows and our plan A in our biggest game is to play long balls to Fellaini. This is a fecking travesty.
I can't believe there are actually fans who buy into this shit of how lucky we are to have him, such a small club that we are. Absolute madness. He'd be kicked out of any other big club for that.
And please stop with that whole "shielding his players" myth. He's shielding no one but himself.
Sevilla was a terrible performance and Mourinho imo got the tactics completely wrong and I don't always agree with his selection or tactics but am sure we're moving in the right direction overall whereas with LvG we were going nowhere. Bit more patience.
Apart from the fact that he was basically calling half the squad shit.
This is exactly what I was just going to say. It’s the cowardly, negative anti football that we are upset about.
Montella joined Sevilla at the end of December and has had one winter transfer window. Yet some will have you believe we went out becuase this is still not Jose's squad
You very conveniently forgot to mention where we finished in the league after LVG's 2nd season,and where we are right now heading into the last 2 months of Mourinhos 2nd season.
In LVG's 2nd season we finished 5th with 66 points....We finished 4th the season before so there was discernible regression.In Mourinho 2nd season we are well on course to finish 2nd with 82-84 points.So no,Jose has performed much much better than LVG....
He has performed better results wise. That is exactly the point I mentioned. Maybe you didn't read the whole thing then. If you are only going to live by results, then you die by them too. The performances have been atrocious against any half decent opposition, bar an exception or two, or are you denying that too?
Maybe this is a start of the meltdown which will end with his sacking. He went a similar rant at Chelsea too a few months before getting sacked. Another poor game tomorrow and the knives will be out for him. In any case I don't want to see him at the club next season. Our board always leave things too late and I don't think they have the balls to make that decision. The simple reality is Mourinho is no longer the coach he was and next season I'm worried the players will get tired of his methods and we're going to start the season like Chelsea did very very bad.
I choose to forget Moyes, but that CL campaign was pitiful as well. PL title winning squad having to come back against Olympiakos? Yeah I’d rather forget that whole 8 month experience quite frankly, and it doesn’t take away from our overall record since the treble win.Poor MoyesThe biggest achievement of his career is simply forgotten. No wonder he's so bitter.
I literally have said that our performance against Sevilla was pathetic and we should’ve won the match.
That doesn’t take away from the fact that our squad isn’t good enough to contend with the European elite. Had we drawn Bayern or Barca in the last 16, we could’ve gotten embarrassed quite comfortably.
We have been shit in the CL for a long time, when was the last time you expected us to get to even the finals or win?
Probably 2009 against Barca for me, I was stunned at the manner at which they steamrolled us. Since then, I’ve never had that same expectation, only hope.
think you’re creating that narrative yourself, City have a very good side - it’s not a crime to admit that. We have a good side too, but it needs to be better, that’s all.
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Now with all that being said, I’ve currently got a drink in my hand and about to enjoy my evening.
You guys can enjoy stewing over Jose’s words if you wish.
Mourinho press conference performance leading people forgot how United played on the pitch. Just how easy for Mourinho to runs out of his responsibility and his tactical errors.
Only just had time to watch it now.
It's all about him, isn't it? He doesn't give two sheets about the history and reputation of this great club.
And while I absolutely don't think we're ready to beat the Barsa's of this world in the final of the CL, losing to a club like Sevilla, in the fashion we lost to them is unnaceptable and requires a bit more 'mea culpa' from the manager.
It's all about him, isn't it? He doesn't give two sheets about the history and reputation of this great club.
And while I absolutely don't think we're ready to beat the Barsa's of this world in the final of the CL, losing to a club like Sevilla, in the fashion we lost to them is unnaceptable and requires a bit more 'mea culpa' from the manager.
By buying Lukaku and Sanchez and already having Martial and Rashford, Jose has more or less taken care of up front. He brought in Pogba (whom we all expected to excel by now) and Matic (who has been doing well). But it seems we would need some investment in that area as well. And then the defense would need investment as well. The board as of now seems to be happy giving Jose the opportunity to fix those things and see how it goes.
Jose will go if the team does not improve even after that.
But being out of Europe for some time, getting Europa was worth it.
Again, Jose has clearly done enough to warrant some more time to get his way for the next season. And much will depend on how the next season goes.
Hmmm,honestly,did you find the Liverpool game atrocious?I actually really enjoyed the first half,we could have maybe been a bit more proactive in the 2nd but it was hardly atrocious.Yes,the 2 games against Seville were poor,but we had shocking performances in Europe even under SAF.
There is absolutely no chance of Jose being replaced in the summer and there's no reason why he should be when he's taking the team in the right direction.If we win the FA cup that will be 3 trophies in 2 seasons....Would I prefer this or would I prefer Klopp/Pochettinos beautiful football without any trophies?I would pick trophies any day of the week....There isn't a single manager(out of the ones who we could realistically sign) who has a better chance of winning the league than Jose....
It's very difficult doing pressers after you've had a reversal. No matter what you say you still come out looking like a that.
I am surprised about the no of posts expecting Jose to apologize in the press conference for tactical failures in last match. I am not sure if top managers of top clubs do that anywhere at all.
His reluctance to accept responsibility for his actions and the neverending line of excuses that follow, the way he masks his insecurities with paper-thin arrogance and the defensive stance he adopts whenever his methods come under question are becoming extremely tiresome in equal measure.
Enough with the bullshit Jose, it's time to man up, put up and shut up.
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Yeah and we would have made the necessary adjustments in the summer to not get embarrassed again. We have the resources for it.
The whole idea that we dodged a hiding is cowardly in itself and just delays us assembling a team to compete. I'd rather take a beating from an elite side than walk out with a whimper against a team like Sevilla.
Yeah, can't understand it. People feel slighted, they want him to apologise to them. I think he should do a Reddit AMA so he can properly and humbly apologise to all the people here and elsewhere who know better than him.
What most people dont get is the lack of cohesion in the team. It didnt start with sevilla, is been a recurring thing for a while.
He is obsessed with Pep but unfortunately for him he cant do anything about it. At any given opportunity he brings them up and make comparisms.
If people think the gap between us and them is just down to the players they have then they are delusional. One is superior manager comapred to the other.
There is not a single player Jose has improved, not one.
He is obsessed with Pep but unfortunately for him he cant do anything about it. At any given opportunity he brings them up and make comparisms.
If people think the gap between us and them is just down to the players they have then they are delusional. One is superior manager comapred to the other.
There is not a single player Jose has improved, not one.
Sorry but that's utter fecking bollocks!
They didn't score. Everybody know this Sevilla side had trouble scoring goals. Did you ever watch other Sevilla games this seasons? Did they struggle to score because they don't want to. They didn't need Yedder to score more goal in the league when they're Tell you what the other teams also conceded chances against Sevilla as everyone know their set of forwards have problem scoring goals (not chance creating)>
Mourinho made mistake gambling to add creativity by an out of form Pogba. Montella did well on gambling on Yedder which changed the game caught us as surprise exploiting Pogba's weakness. Does it mean Montella playing around with us, and then decide play time over with Yedder sub? No one debated about our players were not pumped for it. However, to say "If Yedder started..." is all but assumption without acknowledging that a slap in a face could wake them up and having sufficient time on the clock thing would have been changed. Why the need of "if"? More negativity for the doomsday scenario and we're lucky Sevilla chose not to play better?
Good argument that combining negativity to come to conclusion.
How about some reality check?
Why did LVG get sacked? He got the team made progress from having no European football for next season, to playing in EL. Not good enough.
Why didn't we look at "progress" under LVG and persist for another season? LVG had the team going backward. Instead of building on his own doing of qualifying for CL, and pushed on to challenging for title in a season where Leicester of all team won the league, LVG's second season saw the team going the wrong direction.
Now what, made it back into CL winning trophies. Overtaking all but one team in the league. The defeat to Sevilla is shocking. That's it. Fecking Sevilla of all team also was in Copa del Rey final after beating Atletico Madrid. Atletico Madrid must have been pure shite losing to this team. OR Sevilla is dangerous game raising in cup game and upset can happen? Your pick.
He cant apologise for how shit his football is and the lack of cohesion in his team.
He regularly throw players under the bus but comes out furiously defending himself.
How about say Sanchez comes out and say ~I didnt paly well because we kept hoofing the ball to Fellaini and we where too defensive~ ?
I have no idea what you are on about. Our squad isn't good enough for what? Was he responding to going out against European elite? He was asked about why he went out before Quarterfinals against a mid-table Spanish league side playing dire football. The answer obviously is Guardiola and City, our record in the last 7 years. This against a Sevilla side who hired Montella mid-season after he was fired from AC Milan. Nobody is crucifying him here for losing a match in the Champions League this year, it's a perfectly valid question considering the stature of the opposition and the football we played across both the matches.
You are either dodging or ignorant if you think Mou can shoot his mouth off coz he would have lost against bigger opposition.
I don't think anyone asked him about Sevilla match. The question or comment was something about the fans not happy or about booing. Not exactly sure. I forgot what the question was by the time the rant was over.
Spot on. He has been a dope head since his Italian playing days. The Italians still have an open file on him. At Barca it was common knowledge that his doctor gave out the pills. I look at City and how every player performs like robots and i would be very surprised if there wasn't chemical help applied.
I suspect Bayern were very concerned about their reputation and didn't let him influence the 'back room 'staff as much, and hence his relatively short stay.
The player reaction to his rant will be interesting. I think it might as a fanbase we've been too quiet and let Jose have his way far too long. Ought to keep up the pressure, demand improvements.
No, we went out because we played poorly, we were set up poorly and the players failed to execute whatever plan we attempted to implement.Montella joined Sevilla at the end of December and has had one winter transfer window. Yet some will have you believe we went out becuase this is still not Jose's squad
Watching the press conference, the question posed was something along the lines of "the fans were disappointed following the defeat to Sevilla" and my understanding is that he is saying that these things happen in football hence the remarks regarding our history in the competition i.e. this is nothing new to Man United.
However, the hysteria surrounding this place has to make a mountain of a mole hill.
Personally, I admire his mentality - he's come out and stated that he knew the challenge he faced and he's not backing down. Sometimes, I feel many underestimate the pressure surrounding the job, we've had two managers fail miserably after SAF and plenty before. Mourinho has come out, completely changed the tune following the defeat, taken the pressure and attention away from the players and demonstrated his commitment during a period where he's collapsed in his previous jobs. Far too many forget just how bad certain performances were on Tuesday, and Mourinho (along with his performance) has ensured no one will be talking about the likes of Pogba and Sanchez into the lead up of a pretty important game.
I stand corrected.
He already said they have all come on to his page or something like that
He never addressed the poor performance against Sevilla or the fact we should be beating them.
But his conference was good - trying to put into perspective the scale of things. When he read out our league finishes and European runs I was quite shocked to be reminded how poor we were. It may not be pretty and yes we have spent a lot (although mostly on 2 players), we have improved and back closer to the top. Clearly some way off City currently and the European elite like Barca/Real but we are a lot closer than we were a couple seasons back.
If he, Woodward and co are on the same page then good. The last thing we need is the managers future up in the air. Leaves the players in no doubt either
But his conference was good - trying to put into perspective the scale of things. When he read out our league finishes and European runs I was quite shocked to be reminded how poor we were. It may not be pretty and yes we have spent a lot (although mostly on 2 players), we have improved and back closer to the top. Clearly some way off City currently and the European elite like Barca/Real but we are a lot closer than we were a couple seasons back.
If he, Woodward and co are on the same page then good. The last thing we need is the managers future up in the air. Leaves the players in no doubt either
He talk about enemies like he is Tupac 1996. Mourinho could have closed this much easier by saying he made mistakes in that game, but we move on.
Hopefully we win our next game and all this talk will be forgotten.
Hopefully we win our next game and all this talk will be forgotten.
I do think this is accurate, and the irony of a lot of the discussion on here is that he's done his job well in that respect. We were poor in both legs of the tie, but we are definitely improving. I hope Jose gets a chance complete the revolution he's started.
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