Is it fair to say this is one of the largest presser threads in the history of the caf?
Jose Mourinho's press conference - Brighton (FA Cup) - 14:00 GMT
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Surely not. LVG was the king of pressers.
it just classic Mourinho go off on one to distract from a bad result and performance, i don't think their is much more to read into it then that.
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Agree, I'm glad he says it like it is, in that we have a lot of deadwood that over time needs to get as far away from our club as possible.
It's understandable that he's frustrated. Anyone having to deal with the constant barrage from the press would be frustrated.
Him playing defensively is one thing - I don't mind a good defence as you can't win by going all out attacking. You need to have the right balance between defence and attack. At the moment, attack is non-existent and defensively (surprisingly) we're not much better. On top of that, he sets us up cowardly and we play with fear - that comes from the manager.
I thought he'd learnt a lesson when his same cowardly methods got Chelsea knocked out against PSG in the CL some years ago, but he hasn't learnt, and it doesn't seem as if he cares to address that problem. This is I believe the big issue, coupled with his complete lack of respect for Manchester United. He had a breakdown at Chelsea and was still given another chance, and backed by our club, yet he's ungrateful and disrespectful. It's completely unforgivable in my eyes.
He shouldn't be saying these things in public. How can he say things like he didn't think we would win the CL? You don't say that in public. What does that say to the players? He should shut up and get on with fixing the problems. He has no dignity.
Still laughing at this notion that he's taking heat off the players.
Not sure i agree with that, what do you class as deadwood?
well in some ways he is is distracting the media and fans. i agree though that some of his comments did seem to portray the playing staff in a negative light.
At least if LVG had a fit Shaw, and another year with Rash and Martial, we would have seen big improvements from them. We'd have been better off technically as well. LVG was pedantic and I still believe he was on the right track in some respects. The mistake we made is that we didn't have a Jupp Heynckes (bad spelling) to take over and add the dynamism needed plus of course getting in the right players. We jumped from one philosophy to another.
Well, he is. How many articles are out there about how bad Sanchez and Pogba are playing?
Zero. Everything is about Mourinho and that's his way throughout his all career.
Turns out, It is. Still going strong too.
That's kind of what I don't understand about Mourinho's comments. His Porto and Inter squads were far from the best in Europe on paper, but he formed them into the most tight-knit, committed group of players who played exactly to the strengths of their squads.
Now it sounds like he needs an exact type and class of player on every position to play to his strengths, rather than the reverse. I know people are sick of this comparison, but people, in some ways rightfully, have criticised Pep throughout his career for a dependence on world-class players for the exact system and football he wants to play. If it were just like that, I'd still find Mourinho's comments reasonable, but the issue I have is that while with Pep you know the system he wants to play, or at least he clearly does, and the type of players and skillset he needs in each position for that system, with Mourinho you get the feeling he's still often struggling to think of what system to play in the next match, let alone a year or two from now. I remember Cruijff saying that the way to improve a team with transfers is simple, if you keep replacing the weakest links in your team, the team gets better. (again excuse my main sources of football wisdom, I'm not implying their ways are unique or some objective truth, also not doing Cruijff's words any justice). Yet when given the chance, Mourinho brings in a superstar player for the left wing, a position where the team already has two young, very solid and extremely talented options. It doesn't give an indication of an overarching plan or vision.
I also don't get the comments on European history. For one, in comparison to this Sevilla squad, where United are a squad that won the EL just last season, includes CL finalists and a winner, compared to Sevilla who contain very little of their squads that had EL success in the past. But most of all surely that's what Mourinho is supposed to bring? He has the experience in the CL, he knows how to get his teams to show up and perform beyond their expected level in the tournament. He knows what it takes to win, yet seemingly can't convey an ounce of that to his players?
The 4D chess thing is getting funny
The papers have been full of them
"Every wall has a door" or something...
Do you think he could walk through it?"Every wall has a door" or something...
Not one manager in the entire fecking world gets to work with a clean canvas, every single one has to start with a team they inherit. Why is he crying about the squad now after two years? Didn't he say he was happy with four players every year?
Maybe doing a passionate half time team talk might have been better served than saving this crap for the press.
i thought yesterdays 12 minutes were bad but the other 5! Jeez, if he was an oppo manager our stands would be singing 'he's cracking up' all game.
there's a dark side of me that wonders what he'd do if we're knocked out by Brighton and then freefall out of the top 4. It is fascinating in a way.
We'll be fine though, he's brought us on considerably since LVG and there's no reason to think we'll be worse next year given that we'll undoubtedly give him another pile of money. the main problem i think is that come the next big game he'll be telling everyone we have a chance of winning it and you wonder if the players will believe him given his revelations now
there's a dark side of me that wonders what he'd do if we're knocked out by Brighton and then freefall out of the top 4. It is fascinating in a way.
We'll be fine though, he's brought us on considerably since LVG and there's no reason to think we'll be worse next year given that we'll undoubtedly give him another pile of money. the main problem i think is that come the next big game he'll be telling everyone we have a chance of winning it and you wonder if the players will believe him given his revelations now
True. Nobody talks much about Conte, West Ham situation or Wenger either. He pretty much managed to deflect any football related problems with this charade. Fair play to him.
He’s narcissist of the highest order. Anyone who really thinks that he deflects attention from the players rather than simply defends his huge ego is deluded.
LvG was king of POTY events as well.
Saw a super comment on the Sky Sports Youtube video comment section:
"At least, he attacks in press conferences".
"At least, he attacks in press conferences".
Yeah he's taking attention away from the players by telling everyone how crap they are and they could never win the champions league anyway
Laughable isn’t it?Well at least we know when he’s gone we’ll have a fairly solid team to play in “the cage”
Lukaku. Matic. De Gea.
Lukaku. Matic. De Gea.
I read your posts about how you'd like us to setup and your criticism of what we're like, and it's constructive. But you can't really think Rafa's and Jose's press conferences are comparable, surely not. Jermaine Jenas on Football Daily was trying to compare this to Rafa, I think it's pretty daft.
On another note, I've never used the ignore button, but I'm going to use it for every time I see Jose being compared to Trump or some other deluded halfwit.
He signed eight players, plus the undisputed DDG. That´s already nine players he hand-picked with nearly unlimited resources. That´s not enough to form an above average eleven? You´d think he inherited Huddersfield the way he talks about Rashford, Martial and company.
I said my piece after the first part came out. With that said, I really couldn’t care less, if we were to wake up, play som ok-ish football with good results. My fear is that it’s beyond us with current management. Would love to be proven wrong.
I guess what he really meant to say was, when I was at Porto and Inter, we were the best and most talented team in the CL, therefore I really went for the title. It was more of a pedestrian guidance job. When I feel the team is not good enough, I don´t even try.
I don't think so. I think the board backs him. Doing well in the league, won a couple of cups, might win another, and they'll give him money in the summer. 19/20 could be a different story.
Not much in terms of equivalence between the two interviews. I think he was 15th with Chelsea and really losing it, 2nd with us which could be our best finish in five years.
Get a grip, United last years (post SAF) did nothing besides winning one Europa League, while Sevilla got three of those. Or do you think that United by passing one time the round of 16 in CL since SAF is something better than winning three Europa League titles? A little bit of modesty would be good on you and others like you, SAF times are over unfortunately, so stop making United something that it isn't anymore.
It's like people are still remembering their time with their ex (SAF) when things were good and all. That's over, move on and focus on the reality. Mourinho acknowledges that the team is still rebuilding and it's not where he wants the team to be, that itself means he's not satisfied with loosing against Sevilla or whatever club, he doesn't need to make that pathetic discurse of negativity (like most like to do here nowadays) at the press conferences. What needs to be done is working with the team, owners, staff and learn from the mistakes. Last time I checked (not counting the style of play that it's subjective for some people), United are doing better than last year.
We feel the same to keep it short. Perhaps if he had more feeling for United he would care more?
Damn I loved that add. Always wanted to go out kick the ball about after watching that!
We won the trophy last year. Sevilla were knocked out of the CL by Leicester City that time.
Moreover, people have already pointed out that this is not the same Sevilla team which won 3 back to back ELs. It's a shadow of that side with the majority of the players and the manager having been replaced.
If anyone, it's you who needs to check facts before trying to act all high and mighty.
After spending 300 mil, if Mourinho turns up with that tumescent shite at OT while getting kicked out of the CL and then making excuses that the Sevilla side is better than us, then he needs replacing before the players.
As for that crazy analogy about exes and crap, no one here is saying that we need to dominate the PL for a decade. It's you who went on that tangent. In fact you are the one bringing up SAF to somehow counter a point which was never raised.
Honesty, the way you speak sounds like you are Jose yourself.
If the team is not where he wants them to be after spending 300m then he only has himself to blame. If the team is not in a position to be playing attacking football against (Parking the bus in Seville no less) Sevilla then he's to blame. It's one thing to just lose to Sevilla but losing because we played cowardly football is infuriating. And Sevilla didn't even play well.
The fact that we're doing better last season is neither here nor there. The question we need to ask is if he's the right man to lead us to the league or CL. On the basis of this season you'd have to seriously question that. An now he's players and the club as a whole under the bus for his deficiencies. Nonsense like this only works if you're winning things.
What a trainwreck.
Couldn't he just have a 2 min no comment, we get on with it conference instead of that rambling?
We get it, it's never your fault. Now shut it and make the team play better. (if you can)
Couldn't he just have a 2 min no comment, we get on with it conference instead of that rambling?
We get it, it's never your fault. Now shut it and make the team play better. (if you can)
They both came across equally unhinged, self interested and full of shit.
Feel like ignoring anyone who suggested otherwise as they must be biased to think different as it is that painfully obvious. If he wasn't united manager we'd all be in unison.
Checkmate.
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