mitchmouse
loves to hate United.
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Nice touch from Jose: our midfield might have been better if MC had played/been able to play more often
Tbh, for me he is. I think he has been such a driving force for so long, so effective in his role and won so many trophies that he must be one by now. Brilliant player.Something to look forward to again then. It's crazy to think the criticism this transfer got (then a high fee, no other signing that summer etc.) back then. Here we are, 12 years later and we are debating if he's a legend or just below.
What a player.
The Caf was truly over the moon.Something to look forward to again then. It's crazy to think the criticism this transfer got (then a high fee, no other signing that summer etc.) back then. Here we are, 12 years later and we are debating if he's a legend or just below.
What a player.
He’s a legend. There is no argument otherwise.Something to look forward to again then. It's crazy to think the criticism this transfer got (then a high fee, no other signing that summer etc.) back then. Here we are, 12 years later and we are debating if he's a legend or just below.
What a player.
Idiots every single last one of them
Fecking Hell
Absolutely agreed, how he never played more for England is baffling. Great for us though.Ridiculously underrated player, in general.
I don't disagree fwiw, but it's not that definite though. I also didn't mean to start a debate about, just feel it's a testament to his United career that he's seen as a legend in some people's eyes (including mine).He’s a legend. There is no argument otherwise.
Agree.Tbh, for me he is. I think he has been such a driving force for so long, so effective in his role and won so many trophies that he must be one by now. Brilliant player.
Has the caf ever been right about anything?
Has the caf ever been right about anything?
Another proof Caf is clueless when it comes to transfers. You know the transfer is gonna be good if Caf posters are underwhelmed by him.
The cafs always right about future projections or in hindsight with no contrary proofHas the caf ever been right about anything?
Good question. Some day will search for transfer threads of our best players and will see how the caf reaction was.Has the caf ever been right about anything?
lol. My post from that thread:
While I still feel that the overall tactics of this was (and still is) correct, Carrick proved me wrong and ended up being good enough defensively to be the main man himself. Hell, my first paragraph couldn't have been more wrong, as those exact things I criticised proved to be Carrick's strengths: slowing the attacking team down enough for reinforcements to get back, and forcing the attacking team to one side with no options to come back inside.It's one thing to stay back (which Carrick will do). It's a totally different thing to have the defensive positioning and know-how to either slow the attacking team down enough for your other midfielders to get back, or to force the attacking team to one side with no real chance to cut it back inside. Carrick doesn't have the ability to do this regularly against teams who thrust forward fast and with purpose.
If deep-lying playmakers are good enough to be used as the main holding midfielder simply because of the fact they sit deep, why do Milan waste a spot on Gattuso when Pirlo could do the job? Why did Benitez sign Sissoko when Alonso is more than enough? Why has Vieira gone through four different defensive midfielders at two different clubs (Petit, Edu, Gilberto and Emerson) when he could do it all himself (I don't think anybody would dispute that he's better defensively than Carrick). Why did Real Madrid suddenly implode when they sold Makelele? Why do every top team in the world use a holding midfielder?
Using a defensive midfielder doesn't make you a defensive team. Used the right way it allows your other players to concentrate more on their attacking duties. Barca, Arsenal, Lyon - they all use them and are probably the three most attractive attacking teams in the world at the moment. In fact, they all play a defensive midfielder next to an all-round midfielder, which according to some would make us a boring team with not enough goals from the centre of midfield. Those three are prime examples of how it should work - not the defensive versions that Chelsea, Liverpool and the Italians use.
I think it's Mozza who keeps throwing out the line about us never having played with wingers who ignore their defensive duties. Nobody ever said anything about completely ignoring them; it's simply that with a proper defensive midfielder behind them they won't have to do as much defensive work as they will with a combo of Carrick-Scholes, which therefore allows them to be in better position and more of an attacking threat on a consistent basis.
I remember at the time thinking that we had got the RvN and Carrick transfer fees the wrong way round.
That would be absolutely fantastic, what a way to finish a glittering career at United...!!What a player and career he had at ManUtd. Hopefully he will end on a high with FA cup medal.
Shoulda gone after Lennon, instead, and moved Ronaldo over to the left
Great username to compliment it tooProbably my favorite comment of this thread.
Transfers and Managers and Tactics. We don't know shit, including myself, but love to think we doAnother proof Caf is clueless when it comes to transfers. You know the transfer is gonna be good if Caf posters are underwhelmed by him.
But I mentioned transfers only. You brought the rest.Transfers and Managers and Tactics. We don't know shit, including myself, but love to think we do