The most worrying thing about this shit it's not the Liverpool fans who are up in arms, it's our fellow Bundesliga followers.
Is it because Karius is German or because of Klopp?
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Is it because Karius is German or because of Klopp?
I wasn't speaking exclusively of Liverpool v United, generally football fans against each other simply because they support another club. Its a toxic tribal mentality that is shown in many parts of society, wishing bad on someone else without him/her having any impact on you.
It's also not hard to grasp that you resort to hyperbole and thus should maybe look at why your posts are just getting you nowhere.
I'm sure if you did look in the mirror you could use that psychology degree to figure out why you do that.
People like that tend to double down rather than realise how they are coming across.
/amateurpsychology
Oh please come of it.
No, I asked you a question (one that you failed to answer I might add).
I did not make a statement of fact.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with that at all. Its the people laughing at him crying over an injury that could keep him out of the worls cup that people in the thread have an issue with.
I'm not overly sure. Perhaps a combination of the two.
First. It's a minor injury. We're not laughing about cancer or some life threatening accident.
2nd. It's only football. So what if he missed the world cup? It's only a game.
3rd. We're not wishing him injury. Nor we were the one who injured him.
4th. Go preach at rawk where they blatantly wish our players broke their leg.
5th. On karius. His stupidity and lapse brought this on himself. We have nothing to do with it. If he made 2 epic fecking blooper in a cup final then it comes with the territory. Dont want to get ridiculed? Dont be a top athlete. By the way even rawk are more savages on karius compared to our banter.
But hey. We're the bad guys here.
2nd. It's only football. So what if he missed the world cup? It's only a game.
3rd. We're not wishing him injury. Nor we were the one who injured him.
4th. Go preach at rawk where they blatantly wish our players broke their leg.
5th. On karius. His stupidity and lapse brought this on himself. We have nothing to do with it. If he made 2 epic fecking blooper in a cup final then it comes with the territory. Dont want to get ridiculed? Dont be a top athlete. By the way even rawk are more savages on karius compared to our banter.
But hey. We're the bad guys here.
Who has done that, out of interest?
Who said that?
Once you are at a point where you are not in constant worry of your financials, money has no positive effect on a persons psyche whatsoever. Money is no comfort at all. That’s just a stupid thing people like to think, in order to justify their actions towards rich and famous people.
The idea that money would offer some sort of comfort, while Karius probably will be reminded of this night every single day of his remaining life, is really shortsighted and proves a complete lack of understanding and empathy towards other people. Money doesn’t put your psyche above anything harmful. What in the world makes you think that?
That was the biggest day of his professional career. A night he practiced many years for. The guy likely played in semiprofessional conditions (at least that) since he’s been about twelve years old. Not only did he screw up what might be his only shot at a title, he’s been at fault for every single person to see.
Think about the biggest mistake you’ve ever made in your professional career. Now imagine you practiced towards that day for many years, starting in childhood. Now you imagine that it wasn’t just some guys in your office watching you, but millions of people worldwide. Now imagine that every paper, tv channel, website and whatsoever will be reporting that mistake for days, weeks, months and even years. Now imagine being reminded of that mistake any remaining day of your professional career. Now imagine receiving verbal abuse by people from around the world for that mistake.
There are many people, me included, who could never handle this. This shit can eat you up from the inside.
I feel for the guy. And I don’t understand how anyone else wouldn’t.
Well that's wrong. I was just happy that he got injured midway and left the final greatly reducing the chances of Liverpool winning it. I hope he's back to his full fitness before the world cup and does brilliantly for Egypt and I guess majority of the people here feel the same.
Because he plays for Liverpool. I didn't feel for Steven Gerrard when he slipped in front of the world and cost them the league, either.
Look, you don't get it and that's fine.
I can’t stand Klopp and I can’t stand Liverpool. That has nothing to do with it. I just tend to feel for people in extreme psychological situations, because I know from my own experience how that can feel and how easily great psychological stress can be triggered.
I'm sure he'll be fine cause he probably isn't reading Redcafe.
I don’t understand this either I personally enjoy Liverpool not winning and occasions like last night where they were convinced that they would win are delightful to witness.
You're under arrest.
Then say just that and don’t talk some bullshit about Karius being rich, making things better for him. That’s just plain idiotic and simply wrong.
I do. But I also think you tend to exaggerate a bit here.
Give the guy some credit, he might not be a mentally weak snowflake that needs protecting from naughty words on the internet. He's not Kane
If that's the case then fair fecks to you, cannot criticise that, absurd as may it seem.
Moral police would say that herd mentality alone makes you miss way much you are gaining but it is your business so ok. Anyway, Suzanne Vega’s song about Liverpool is better than all the Oasis repertoire, so take care.
I did just say that. Why the f*ck do you think I'm laughing at him?
And if he is? Would you have thought Mertesacker was weak (terrible choice of words)? The guy was under such psychological stress, he was relieved when Germany went out against Italy in2006, because it was finally over. And nobody would have thought that about him. We don’t know what’s happening in someone’s head.I do. But I also think you tend to exaggerate a bit here.
Give the guy some credit, he might not be a mentally weak snowflake that needs protecting from naughty words on the internet. He's not Kane
I absolutely didn't want Liverpool to win but I can still feel for Karius and Salah a little even if what happened to them came at Liverpool's expense. Ramos has always been a cnut tho, so even if I was hoping for Real to win I don't have to turn a blind eye to what he did.
Or, you know, sports fans, who understand the aspects within football like rivalry. Its an inate part of competitive sport. These people arent wishing death upon Karius and his family (that would be Liverpool fans) but enjoying a humiliating defeat of their biggest and fiercest rivals.
You're welcome you send Karius all the e-cuddles you like, don't expect everyone else to though.
There are Liverpool 'fans' in twitter wishing him death. Here people are just laughing cause it costed Liverpool a CL title.
Somewhere between comparing football allegiances with religious beliefs and posting a photoshopped image because of the message it represents, I think this must be the most ridiculous thread I've ever read.
It's destined for the classics.
This forum is so strange.
Oh no! Salah has a boo bo.
Oh no! Karius made a mistake.
But absolutely slate Ramos and even our own Phil Jones last week.
Must have missed the thread on Jones's mental health.
Ramos is an absolute warrior and we need a few with his spirit at United.
The difference between him and the likes of the dabbing brigade is stark.
Oh no! Salah has a boo bo.
Oh no! Karius made a mistake.
But absolutely slate Ramos and even our own Phil Jones last week.
Must have missed the thread on Jones's mental health.
Ramos is an absolute warrior and we need a few with his spirit at United.
The difference between him and the likes of the dabbing brigade is stark.
And that magically absolves everyone else of any possible wrongdoing?
Both. Annoying set of fans at times, exceptions exist though
That's okay, I was fine with him being injured during the final but when he broke down crying, which indicated that he felt he was going to miss the WC, then I felt terrible for him and wouldn't expect anyone to be happy looking at him in that state, knowing what he's lost.
I haven’t noticed anyone saying that? Maybe just you piecing a few things together because some made a comment about a grown man crying? For all we know he was crying because he can see the future and he realized there was nothing he could do to stop his goalkeeper fecking things up.
And if he is, hopefully he gets help.
Some people laughing at the circumstance on the internet isn't going to change that, and neither is looking at the worst case scenario and running with it. I feel for the guy with what happened now but I'm not going to fall over myself to call people out for their reactions at the time. In any case, I choose to believe it won't be the end of his world rather than to expect him to never recover. Either way neither of us know, so it makes the whole "what if" discussions rather pointless.
Adds nothing to the discussion
You have to remember some of these guys also masturbate to transfer-tweets.
Well said. Had the same argument with my mate during the game. Apparently because they earn millions they should not be felt sorry for.You can separate the two, as I've already shown when I said it were two different things. It wasn't hard to separate them at all. A player does not lose his individual identity just by playing for a certain club. Hence why many people, even fans who dislike the club, are feeling sorry for him. It's a healthy human reaction to show some empathy for a young athlete who made himself look like a fool and possibly carreer ending night. People were also sorry about Salah for the same reasons. They were happy because of the impact on the game, but sorry for the player. It's not a hard concept to grasp to be honest.
Also, sport and sportsmanship is more than just winning, but some people seem to think it's a weakness. What the feck?
Do you not even understand the fact that this has nothing to do with wishing your rivals to win a game? It's not hard to grasp actually
Can't emphasise how much I wanted Liverpool to lose yesterday and the immediate reaction to Salahs injury and Karius' mistakes was obviously "this is good it hurts Liverpool". But after a few mins because I'm not a robot, top red or a sociopath I did feel really bad for the pair of them. Judging by the reactions to some of your posts, it appears the cafe does have the above types.....
What?
Pretty much this. Plenty masquerading as well.
Oh sweet summer child, you have no idea how bad it can get!