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Marko Arnautovic

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RedNed77

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Can we have a poll with some price points and then send the results to Woody?
 

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"Can Manchester United score? They always score"
That's the thing though. We gonna allow this guy to sanction sale of players with potential like Martial, Shaw, and leave us with s*it like Lindelof, and this guy.
Not particularly fussed about Shaw who has shown problems under different management too. The Martial thing sucks but what can we do.

Jose is simply too short sighted to be a long term manager. It has never happened anywhere else and I really can't see it here either.
 

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Not particularly fussed about Shaw who has shown problems under different management too. The Martial thing sucks but what can we do.

Jose is simply too short sighted to be a long term manager. It has never happened anywhere else and I really can't see it here either.
Woodward cant allow it surely. Next thing we will be selling Pogba and signing Noble
 

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I'm already onto the phase where I pretend to myself he's not just some bang average mid table player who'll sack it all in weeks after joining us.
 

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So Jose has personally gone to Austria to watch a player who has played in the EPL for 5 years and has played against Jose’s teams 10+ times. Are we supposed to believe that he’s going to make a £50m(:lol:) decision based on how he plays against Russia?
 

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Let's hope he's shit tonight. Really don't want this calibre of player;bad enough with Fellaini and even as back up he's a mid table player
 

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So Jose has personally gone to Austria to watch a player who has played in the EPL for 5 years and has played against Jose’s teams 10+ times. Are we supposed to believe that he’s going to make a £50m(:lol:) decision based on how he plays against Russia?
Maybe there's a Mozart gig on
 

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That's entering into dangerous territory though.

Dictating to a manager what he can or cannot do. Especially if you are then going to judge them on results.
True, but bearing in mind some of his signings havent been successful, it would have to be done for the sake and the future of the club. This is a manager who usually self destructs by the 3rd season anyway, who sets Manchester United up not to concede and lose games. Ridiculous, if we sign this guy then we are accepting we are cr*p
 

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Interesting target. I've said before to me he's a 1 in 5 player, same with Shaqiri. Plays amazing/scores a wonder goal then you don't see him for the rest of the month.

I'm not really sure he's effective as a central striker either, he was better at Stoke playing a wide position and you obviously have Alexis, Martial and Rashford for those positions plus Bale of course....(been reading too much Redcafe).

Don't know why Mourinho has to go and scout him, he's probably seen him about a hundred times in the premier league and indeed coached him for a bit at Inter so he surely knows all Aranutovic's strengths and weaknesses.

For that sort of price you might aswell stick another 20m and be in for Lewandowski.
Not a fan of this signing but once a month is better than what Lingard and Mata are producing just now.
 

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Just remembered this quote from Jose at the start of the season.
 

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Arnautovic is a far better player than some fans on here think he is.

Was impressed with him at Werder Bremen and was highly surprised to see him at Stoke thereafter.
The main reason, in my opinion, that Stoke got relegated is because they lost Arnautovic.

I don't get the love for Martial in this thread also. What's he done all season?
Arnautovic is a better player.
 

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Is Golovin not still a bit of a wonder kid? Maybe the young midfielder we’re interested in.

That’s if he’s even there scouting which he’s probably not.
 

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True, but bearing in mind some of his signings havent been successful, it would have to be done for the sake and the future of the club. This is a manager who usually self destructs by the 3rd season anyway, who sets Manchester United up not to concede and lose games. Ridiculous, if we sign this guy then we are accepting we are cr*p
You allow a manager to make his own decisions though or fire him if you don't believe he can make the right decisions.


That seems only fair to me.
 

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This is depressing news if true. Sky are reporting it too. How can we be contenders for anything with dross like Arnatovic!!
 

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You allow a manager to make his own decisions though or fire him if you don't believe he can make the right decisions.


That seems only fair to me.
I agree 100% with you. If I was the CEO I would have fired him. Honestly, not because he didnt deliver any trophies, but because the standard and the style of performances is not acceptable.In addition I would have turned to Enrique, whom with the likes of Lukaku, Martial, Sanchez, Pogba, Mata and Rashford at his disposal would have taken us to a higher level
 

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This is depressing news if true. Sky are reporting it too. How can we be contenders for anything with dross like Arnatovic!!
You know, we have a manager who signed Steve Sidwell, Khalid Boulharouz, Falcao even though he was crap for us, among other wonderful signings, Why should we be surprised?:rolleyes:

In the meantime Liverpool will be lining up with:

Fabinho- Keita- Fekir
Mane-Firminho-Salah
 

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I think this is Jose's last Summer with us anyway, so this will probably be his Fellaini parting gift like Moyes.
:lol: This cracked me more than it should.

On the bright side, it seems we are about to sign one of best Portugal prospects.
 

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He seems to have flourished since he was played as a striker, 9 goals and 5 assists in 16 starts as a CF is not too shabby.

50m doesn't seem too insane, given his value to West Ham. We do need more goals and a solid back-up for Lukaku, not many players will prefer a part-time role, but Arnautovic is pretty versatile in attack, so he would still play a lot of games - while also being handed a nice wage bump + actually playing for trophies rather than relegation.

Of course we already have Martial who could be that option in attack, but Mourinho maybe prefers some different attributes than his as a CF.
 

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Di Marzio deserves a leathering for fueling the flames of this potential shit fest, Arnautovic has played for Stoke and West Ham for a reason, he’s Shite.
 

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Calm down everybody, according to press Jose came to Croatia in March 2017, to watch Perišić, against Ujraine, funny, Perišić didn't play that day, two yellow cards in previous game. Someone should have told Jose that. God knows who he is watching.
Mourinho said then: "I'm here to enjoy weather and to see my friends. You don't have to travel to see players."
 

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You buy Giroud for his great ability on headers and scoring important goals, the player you throw in after 80 minutes to get the equalizer. Arnautovic has never shown anything like that in his entire career. He scores from 40 yards in one game, then he goes silent for ten games and then he kicks or elbows someone.
Indeed. He is completely useless in the air and regularly gets dominated by players half his size (probably because he mostly looks like he doesn't care). Not sure he is the physical presence up front that Mourinho apparently wants as cover for Lukaku.
 

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I would take Arnautovic for 20 million, think he's a pretty good player. Anything more and I don't think it would be worth it, especially considering his age.
 

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Arnautovic is a far better player than some fans on here think he is.

Was impressed with him at Werder Bremen and was highly surprised to see him at Stoke thereafter.
The main reason, in my opinion, that Stoke got relegated is because they lost Arnautovic.

I don't get the love for Martial in this thread also. What's he done all season?
Arnautovic is a better player.
Agree with you on all but the very last line. I'm partial to Martial and think he has more potential than Arnautovic ever showed at the same age. In any case, they both bring in very different skill sets .

If we do sign him, I think a lot will be impressed. Classic case of underrating a player because of which club he used to play for.
 

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Has he changed his clothing from when @VP89 saw him with the ice cream? I remember he wore same cap, same watch, and using the same phone...
He had a white Adidas t shirt on when I saw him on the weekend. The kind you wear when you hit up JD Sports and see a clearance sale.

Always on his fecking phone though!
 

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Mourinho is working for Russian TV during the World Cup yeah? He’ll just be checking up on the Russia team probably.
 

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“Mourinho's (well hidden) eyes were also turned towards two players of the Russian national team: Aleksandr Golovin of CSKA Moscow and Fëdor Smolov, Krasnodar striker.’’
 

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“Mourinho's (well hidden) eyes were also turned towards two players of the Russian national team: Aleksandr Golovin of CSKA Moscow and Fëdor Smolov, Krasnodar striker.’’
If they were well hidden, how does anyone know where they turned?
 
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