How long do you think Jose will last though? If next season is a repeat of this one he'll be gone I think.
Next Real Madrid manager | Glaston has a shocker
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You made a perfect case for Allegri and I agree in full. As for the bolded part, Milan is a 4th tier club in Europe these days and Juve still 2nd tier when money speaks, while Madrid is clearly the top dog.
No, this is just plain wrong as Zidane wasn't going to get sacked by that point.
He's a young manager and just won a protracted battle to win funding for transfers and lead the club into a new stadium.
I'm sure lots of managers want to manage Real Madrid at some point, and two weeks ago there's no doubt he'd be gone already. Now my money is on him turning them down for now. Given their turnover it's not like he'll have to wait too long for their next approach.
I'm sure lots of managers want to manage Real Madrid at some point, and two weeks ago there's no doubt he'd be gone already. Now my money is on him turning them down for now. Given their turnover it's not like he'll have to wait too long for their next approach.
Yeah my mistake. But glad you're for Wenger. Very sure choice
Why would he earn less money by waiting a few days? He already knew what was in the Spurs contract - it's not as if Levy would have ripped it up and offered less a week later.
And yes, up to £8.5m per year is a lucrative contract .. it's more than Klopp gets at Liverpool and more than Conte gets at Chelsea.
In scenario Poch would continue to do well, Yes. Thing is life is unpredictable. Chelsea, Arsenal may turn up this season, while the Northern big boys is investing heavily and may pull ahead, Tottenham risk the chance to slip out of top 4. So the risk for not having second chanceis as high as failing. Thing is failing with Madrid is not the end of the world, while doing a Wenger is truly damaging.
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Not really, would Spurs finish outside of top 4 next season (which is pretty realistic) his chances of ever managing Madrid will be as good as gone unless he manages to achieve something fantastic with other clubs. Madrid only comes once for decent managers, they may come back only for top tier ones aka Pep (not happening but that's the caliber)/Jose/Cappelo in the past etc., so yeah chances are big he won't get another chance like this and Real's pull is immense for South Americans.
No chance of Zidane being sacked if he'd lost the CL final? Do come off it - RM sack managers very easily.
You're clueless just ask any resident Real fans who actually monitor closely their club that Zidane didn't run any risk of being sacked.
If Pochettino signs up for them it'd be a bigger turnaround than Delph and City. Allegri makes most sense, seems to have a calm head on him and has done a great job of winning silverware at Juve year after year.
Also, can we stop this nonsense of 'Zidane was gone had Madrid lost the CL final'. Madrid had a brutal run in to the final (PSG, Juve, Bayern) and they swatted most of them rather easily, his job was secure regardless if the result in Kiev was other way round. A bad start to the next campaign might have resulted in him being gone but not after beating 3 of the elite clubs en-route to a 3rd consecutive CL Final.
Also, can we stop this nonsense of 'Zidane was gone had Madrid lost the CL final'. Madrid had a brutal run in to the final (PSG, Juve, Bayern) and they swatted most of them rather easily, his job was secure regardless if the result in Kiev was other way round. A bad start to the next campaign might have resulted in him being gone but not after beating 3 of the elite clubs en-route to a 3rd consecutive CL Final.
Yeah I dunno why it's being presented as a fact that his job was on the line in Kiev, Madrid do have a history of making comical decisions from time to time but Zidane had a longer rope to latch onto than most managers because of what he had achieved. To think Pochettino signing a new contract days before a CL final as a mark of his undying loyalty to Spurs is laughable, these two things are not inter-related. He probably thinks at this stage of his career he's better suited to the job at Spurs, no need to equate it to him turning down an opportunity to manage Madrid.
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Hope they get Poch, not because I think he's going to do well/fail (I honestly don't have a clue how he'd do at a big club) but I just want to see Spurs fans squirm
Wonder who Spurs would get if Poch leaves? Wenger is available.
Your standard get out when you don’t want to answer a question. You were the one who wanted to make a debate about who may be Real Madrid’s new manager into a bet.
Signing a new 5 year contract just 7 days ago is absolutely an indication of his future desires. I can't believe people are trying to spin it that signing a new contract just a week ago is not a sign of Poch's commitment to Spurs. Poch would have to be a moron, if he thought he shouldn't wait to see what happens at Madrid before signing the new Spurs contract. Poch could easily have delayed signing a new contract for another month or two to see what happened at Madrid before committing to Spurs. Spurs wouldn't have been able to rush Poch, they would have had to deal with it. Yet Poch signs a new contract within weeks of the season finishing. That is the absolute sign of commitment to Spurs, and all this speculation about him getting wet for Madrid is just baseless speculation.
Actually I don't think both choices are night and day. On the face of it, Madrid are an attractive destination, on the flipside, Bale and Ronaldo are unhappy, many stars are over 30, Poch needs committed young players who buy into his ideas. I don't see it as a good fit. You only have to look at how successful Zidane has been at Madrid, who is the polar opposite of the type of coach Poch is. If Poch has any sense, he would know this, and thus turn down the Madrid job at the current time. As I repeat, his philosophy and Madrid's do not match. Even if Poch was to hit 25% success at Madrid, he would still likely be sacked in a year or two. No manager stays long there. That doesn't fit Poch's ethos. As I say, if Poch was to examine the extent of the job he has at Madrid, he would know he would have a huge rebuilding job, and he won't get long to do it. One season, no trophies and the Madrid fans including you will want him sacked.The problem is, a manager doesn't necessarily choose when it's the right moment to go to Real Madrid. There is a saying in Spain which goes "the Madrid train only passes once in a lifetime". Maybe for people like Mourinho when he was at Inter or Capello years ago that's not accurate, but those are the exceptions rather than the rule, as they were seen as the top of the crop, the upgrades of upgrades, the best of the best.
So, under this perspective coaches have to face the dilemma, which is not really a dilemma, of choosing between 25% success rate at Madrid (or whatever they think the success rate is) or 0% success rate at Madrid.
Now, I'd ask you to forget that I am a Madrid fan for a while, please. Try to imagine I support IFK Goteborg in Sweden or Sampdoria in Italy. And by that I mean, try not to imagine I am a Madrid fanatic and look at my opinion rather than what I am.
What's so mental about an Argentinian manager that played and coached for most of his career in the #1 public enemy club of FC Barcelona in Catalonia, looking forward to coach one of the most successful clubs in the world, which also happens to be the #1 public enemy of FC Barcelona in Spain? If Pochettino was from Norway or Indonesia, I could understand if he had grown up with the Premier League as a reference. But an Argentine is used to idols such as Maradona, Di Stefano, Kempes, Redondo, Ayala, Ruggeri, Simeone, Riquelme, Aimar etc consistently going to the Spanish League, the Spanish League is THE league in Europe, and Real Madrid is THE club in THE league.
And now, please, don't misunderstand me. I'm sure Spurs is a phenomenal club, Levy is a genius of a chairman, the new stadium is going to be wonderful and the project is exhilarating, but quite honestly, both choices are like night and day.
In fact I rarely dig out old posts from other posters in order to re-quote them. But it's quite the opposite with some posters when it comes to old quotes of mine - the obsessive trawling involved is really quite weird.
Be careful you don't set yourself up for a fall. All banter aside, there is every chance Poch will end at Real come the end of the summer. If you genuinely cannot see that then you are simply deluded.
Real Madrid tend to get what they want, when they want it. There is little you or anyone else can do about it.
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Perez has an unnatural fear of fax machines (particularly broken ones). Levy may or may not use this knowledge to his advantage. But you didn't hear it from me.
Indication, pre madrid vacancy, sure.
Unless there was solid information, solid rumors, solid indication that zidane was leaving and the madrid vacancy would be open, you simply wouldn't not sign a contract. Why would you? You're missing out on money the longer you leave it for something that up until then, there was no indication was coming. It's bizarre people are trying to argue this simple fact.
If i get offered a new contract with more benefits at work whilst I'm job hunting, I'm not gonna say no just incase something comes up in a month or two, am i? You say yes and whatever happens, happens.
Rafa Beneathus surely?
All he had to do was wait a matter of days, and plenty of people thought ZZ could get the chop had he of failed to deliver the CL. You don’t sign a 5 and a half year contract if you want to leave a club.
Yes, I offered a bet, to which there were no takers.
End of story, we'd imagine ... except that you then come out with a seemingly endless of stream of posts about it and continuing even now.
You don't want to take my bet - that's fine. Now toddle off and hassle someone else.
This isn't true at all though. From the moment they got past Bayern everyone knew he wasn't getting sacked
Who exactly?
Don't worry. It's par for the course with some folk: a mixture of wishful thinking and pure delusion.
When Kane signs a new contract this summer they'll be a flurry of posts about how he's off for sure next summer (just like was supposed to be this summer, and the summer before that, and the summer .... well you get the picture).
I’m pretty sure I’ve seen people state such on here, it’s not like Real have a history of keeping a manager that doesn’t win any silverware in a season.
As good as Poch has been at Spurs, I think he would flop at Real Madrid. Poch has yet to win a sigle trophy and just like Klopp, he seems to play the underdog card way too much and if he goes to Real Madrid, he would be expected to win the title and Champions League year in year out which he doesn't have the experience and nous to do it.
For what it's worth, I think he'll choose to stay.
Fabio Capello for one, a lesser “pundit” in Merson. I’m not gonna trawl through threads on here but plenty suggested it. Oh and ZZ mentioned it himself in January.
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They can't get someone who doesn't want them this summer - that's the point. And by signing a new contract just days before the CL final Pochettino was hardly smoothing the way for Real Madrid.
Being wrong is part of the game. I'd rather be wrong on this than be right while stating my opinions without any backed up evidences whatsoever.
Poch just signed a new dealKlopp hopefully.
Feck sake, I think I lost my copy of his contract. Anyone check their own?
Could this have been part of the Levy masterplan all along?
All the comments before the end of the season seemed to suggest Poch was on his way out - perhaps signing the new contract was to ensure Spurs didn't get screwed over and got a decent fee for him.
All the comments before the end of the season seemed to suggest Poch was on his way out - perhaps signing the new contract was to ensure Spurs didn't get screwed over and got a decent fee for him.
Sorry what did she say, I was too busy looking at her ass.
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Perez vs Levy. Gonna be interesting.
LOL I know it's Madrid but £42m in compensation for a bloody coach. As if.
No manager in the modern game is going to turn down the Madrid job, lets be real here. The last manager to turn them down I think was Wenger, and he was always a special case. If they want Poch you can bet his head will be turned, as would any other manager, barring maybe Pep for non football reasons.
Yeah sure, agreed.
But how long Poch?