I'd ship off Rashford (on loan) and invest all his game time on Martial. I'd keep Sanchez.
Bouhafsi: Martial wants to leave United
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Who should replace him and why is it taking so long to make a decision?
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lol. What's your solution?
Pfftttt. I dint necessarily like Jose. Just find this blaming all but himself by Martial's fans quite amusing. One is proven winner and one is proven whiner. United will always thrive with or without both. If you think Martial is bigger than United than you can follow him religiously mate.
Good. Just get a percentile on the next sell the buyer club gets.
I don't think He's good enough (as of this moment) to demand to start and play every games. If He wants to leave because of that, go ahead, I wouldn't lose my sleep over it. Now if De Gea wants to leave however, that would be a shame. Martial? don't care much.
PS: Sell him to Lyon and put in a buy back clause ala Depay.
PS: Sell him to Lyon and put in a buy back clause ala Depay.
Bin the manager obviously. It's clear as day that our attacking play is generally shit especially seeing as teams with lesser quality players than ours still manage decent football
Imagine Mbappe or Dembele getting this treatment.
Mbappe a little better than Martial but i've watched Dembele multiple times and he is NOT better than Martial.
Yet Madrid and Barca are grooming these young players and we continue to waste our talented players.
This is Mikel Obi, Salah and KDB all over again.
Mbappe a little better than Martial but i've watched Dembele multiple times and he is NOT better than Martial.
Yet Madrid and Barca are grooming these young players and we continue to waste our talented players.
This is Mikel Obi, Salah and KDB all over again.
No player is bigger than the club. I simply think that if all our attacking players are underperforming, then maybe it may not be ONLY them at fault. If Martial goes he goes, so be it, but the lengths people go to on here to absolve Mourinho of any kind of fault and lay every inch of the blame at the players doorsteps is laughable. Not necessarily saying that’s what you did, but it is a prominent theme on here.
Mikel? Surely some other player.
I doubt he'll go for a big fee after this move. If he does join a big club then the fans will hold him to a standard ala Thiago and Bayern rather than absolve him of any blame time and time again.
Welbeck, Cleverly, Januaji, Depay, Martial, Shaw and Rashford, even fecking Evans and Jones.
Waiting on these players because they showed a bit of promise at a young age is a blind spot and a major problem that our fanbase needs to address yet the likes of ADM etc regularly get tossed out as the problem with out approach over recent years.
But Sanchez had a slow start to his Utd career...boo that man.
What's his realistic valuation especially now with his agent confirming he wants out?
Oh well, we can get another world class talent. No, feck that, we have a world class talent and we're selling him! 
I don't like this one bit. Anyway, if he wants to leave then fine but we're not selling him willingly i hope, and only for a premium fee, or else he can stay even if he doesn't want to.
I don't like this one bit. Anyway, if he wants to leave then fine but we're not selling him willingly i hope, and only for a premium fee, or else he can stay even if he doesn't want to.No world of a lie , go watch Mikel at the youth tournament. He was second behind Messi as the best player when he played as an attacking midfielder. His developing got stalled
I don't think he's been any better than Zaha over the last few seasons, I'd place the likes of Son above him as well.
If we get 40m I'd be impressed.
The very same theme by Martial fanboys. Dont you get it? Or did you just ignore it? Its all Jose fault. Or its just convenient to side with player with a potential but not fully proven it? Fought it hard on the pitch, its simple. The truth is, they are both at fault but one side just clearly hate manager and love their potential young player.
He has not been overall THAT good in my opinion, and he has to do the right thing for his career. He obviously doesn't feel like the starts are coming any time soon either. I would prefer for him to have a positive attitude and get his head down to make his way into the starting 11 regularly, but if he doesn't see that happening himself, then its for the best for us aswell as him that he does move on. I have to be honest, I am not too disappointed. Theres only so long we can talk about the potential of players, we need to be competing for the league next season, we need players who can perform week in week out and not sulk
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Sanchez was also proven to probably be on the way down... IMO, signing an aging player who's played badly for a long time is the foolhardy thing to do...
What reasonable price are you talking about? We paid 45 m euros for each one of them when they are not in your manager's plans for next season. Mata was signed in 13/14 January window when the market was not this absurd and Matic was also 29. That's i'd not call reasonable but very good deals for you. United don't owe Chelsea anything as we paid you more than these guys are worth. You guys have been very very lucky in the market when it comes to selling players in the last couple of years with the likes of Oscar (60 m for him
), Ramires, David Luiz (50 m), Diego Costa (66 m for a trouble maker & benchwarmer ), Ake etc. even though De Bruyne and Salah had gone on the cheap (in hindsight of course).As I said earlier- I hate the attitude of a few of the players.
I would be willing to bet he’d be thriving here under Fergie already. I’m sad we are going to sell someone clearly so talented but lots of these players haven’t achieved anything close the what we as united fans would call success, yet they act like they are already bigger than the club. Pogba is starting to feel like that too having achieved relatively little here so far. Our squads attitude has been questionable for years now. It’s Time to get some real intensity into the team again, next year we have to put up a much tougher fight! If not when do we say enough is enough with Jose.
I don’t see any other manager coming in here and getting the underperforming or disillusioned players to love them, toughen up and to start playing like worldies. It’s just not going to happen. I agree, we have to get rid of players who don’t want to fight to be here anymore but isn’t the manager meant to make everyone feel like they are important and working in a good environment? Didn’t Jose want himself and Pogba and Shaw at Chelsea?
I would love Dybala for Rw if we decide to go big there.
He’d be an upgrade for no 10 too
I would be willing to bet he’d be thriving here under Fergie already. I’m sad we are going to sell someone clearly so talented but lots of these players haven’t achieved anything close the what we as united fans would call success, yet they act like they are already bigger than the club. Pogba is starting to feel like that too having achieved relatively little here so far. Our squads attitude has been questionable for years now. It’s Time to get some real intensity into the team again, next year we have to put up a much tougher fight! If not when do we say enough is enough with Jose.
I don’t see any other manager coming in here and getting the underperforming or disillusioned players to love them, toughen up and to start playing like worldies. It’s just not going to happen. I agree, we have to get rid of players who don’t want to fight to be here anymore but isn’t the manager meant to make everyone feel like they are important and working in a good environment? Didn’t Jose want himself and Pogba and Shaw at Chelsea?
I would love Dybala for Rw if we decide to go big there.
He’d be an upgrade for no 10 too
It baffles me that some on here can't see it.
We have a manager who prefers limited attackers like Lingard and Rashford to Martial solely because the latter isn't as focused on defending. People have bought into it as well. Madness.
With a happy ending?
Post makes no sense, but ok.
I'm fond of Martial, but nothing about him suggests he's the kind of player you build your team around (in my opinion.) And yes Sanchez underperformed, but there were 2 or 3 performances (City and Spurs spring to mind,) that easily surpassed anything I've seen Martian produce - probably because he's just a better player at this point. It's always a shame to lose a potential star, but potential is the key word, and I don't see Martial as anything more than that, at this moment.
Shame. So many players have no patience these days. He is 22 and has played plenty of minutes this season. The best players always respond to adversity, that is melded with natural ability to shape them into the best. If he goes, hope we get a good deal out of it.
No player is bigger than the club, but this reflects poorly on Mourinho.
A big problem is Lukaku and our system. Martial should look at his performance and efforts in his second season and thank himself lucky we stood by him. It's now important we deal with it.
With his dribbling ability, composure and finishing I am convinced that he'll be a world class wide forward one day.
He has everything that you need on a tachnical level. None of our other young players have his ability.
"Now you know why I always play Lukaku"
And people are having a go at the guy for wanting away?
And people are having a go at the guy for wanting away?
I was saying earlier in the season, that we would have to move on from Martial, as he isn’t really a player who reflects Mourinho’s mentality on the pitch, but now that it’s become likely that he leaves, it does sting.
To make his departure less hurtful we need to sign at least 2 attacking players.
One option is to sell him at a cut-price to Juventus or Monaco with a buy-back clause. But if he does become that good, i don’t see why Barcelona/Madrid/Bayern/PSG wouldn’t be in for him also, so no guarantee he will come back, even if he knows how adored he is at Old Trafford.
Second option is to move him somewhere else and get an attacking player in return. I know it’s forbidden talk, but i wouldn’t be against selling him to Chelsea and getting Willian + 20m in return. At least we know Mourinho loves Willian, and he would fix our RW spot, even if he isn’t a muppet transfer like Pulisic.
I do rate Martial, and i’m expecting him to become a world-class player in the next 2-3 years. It will hurt seeing him do well somewhere else, but the circumstances at the club is not in his favour at the moment.
To make his departure less hurtful we need to sign at least 2 attacking players.
One option is to sell him at a cut-price to Juventus or Monaco with a buy-back clause. But if he does become that good, i don’t see why Barcelona/Madrid/Bayern/PSG wouldn’t be in for him also, so no guarantee he will come back, even if he knows how adored he is at Old Trafford.
Second option is to move him somewhere else and get an attacking player in return. I know it’s forbidden talk, but i wouldn’t be against selling him to Chelsea and getting Willian + 20m in return. At least we know Mourinho loves Willian, and he would fix our RW spot, even if he isn’t a muppet transfer like Pulisic.
I do rate Martial, and i’m expecting him to become a world-class player in the next 2-3 years. It will hurt seeing him do well somewhere else, but the circumstances at the club is not in his favour at the moment.
Nothing says I should stay and fight for my place like a coach telling me I suck.
I am so gutted about this, really want him to stay. If he is to leave will we buy a replacement or give more mins to Rashford?
This is why Im not excited about new signings under Mourinho (and in this post Fergie era really) anymore. Fergie had players wanting to play for him. Mourinho scares them away if they're not one of his favorites.
Is it that strange to not want players playing for other teams to become world class? Odd reaction.
I thought you were referring to Mourinho letting those players leave and bloom elsewhere. Now that I see where you're going with it I don't think Mikel is a good example. He was switched to a different position that he was decent in and played a shitload of games for Chelsea. No way of knowing if he would've done well as an attacking mid. How many young players have settled into new positions when the broke into the senior squad? Scholes was a striker in the youth ranks and some thought he'd break into the team in that position.
In that case nothing tells you it's time to leave this manager/club. It's all fine and dandy to pretend every player must give up their body and soul (and career) for the greater cause which is our football club. But it simply does not work that way. If a footballer doesn't believe his current manager rates him/is the man to help him develop and shine then the logical decision is to leave rather than keep hammering away at it as a lifelong United fan would.
I think it's an utter shame. He's a fantastic young player and I'd prioritize his place in this team ahead of the likes of Mata and Lingard.
What a shame, all the talent in the world but if he isn't going to fast track the success Mourinho's ego craves then hes shipped off. Can't wait to see Sanchez continue to take up Rooney's mantle as the washed up undroppable star...
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