Every non Jose arse licking United fan said the same, but some never learn.
Mourinho tells Paul Pogba he'll never captain Manchester United again
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There’s nothing to suggest this is a mutiny rather than Pogba and Jose falling out. Plenty of other players have been playing a different tune and your posts come across like a set of hysterical assumptions
We were warned. 'Jose loses dressing rooms'. 'Jose loses dressing rooms'. At the end of the day this is just another dressing room being lost in the career of Jose Mourinho. It was funny watching Chelsea implode but it hurts when it's your club that's being ruined. Top players like Hazard and Ronaldo had enough of it. This time it's Pogba. The players change, the boards are different but the end result is the same.
Pogba will captain the next game. Stop clicking these links. Stop feeding the fake news.
Haha.i wonder
You can read between the lines and say it's 'obvious', it probably is. Likewise, reading between the lines it was pretty 'obvious' Mourinho wasn't happy with Ed in the summer.
But nothing of substance was actually said. Everything is implied. We are dealing with 2 smart media players here.
It could easily be argued that Jose loves Ed and Pogba loves Jose (he thanked the manager personally for letting take penalties just last week). But we are all smarter than that.
Only Pogba and Martial have problems with Jose. Two players.
Sure it was the same with Moyes. They all practically pissed themselves laughing at us picking him to succeed Ferguson but all the sanctimonious top reds thought they knew better (and I mean still in Nov/Dec when the proof was firmly in).
It's time anyone who's anyone in denial about this wakes up and realises this too. The only constant is Jose Mourinho, this isn't new or surprising. It's hugely disappointing because we all wanted it to be a success but it's failed before it even really got going. No elite trophies and in my opinion he'll leave here having failed to get us back to the top, which is what we hired him for.
No we haven't. We ended last season on 81 points which is the best since Ferguson and considerably better than 69 points the year before. It was also the best goal difference since SAF along with the highest finish.
Spew whatever bullshit you want about style of play to fit your narrative but its utter tripe that we have been regressing under Jose Mourinho.
As above. Plus count the fact that City have spent shit loads and we finished 2nd to them last year. Liverpool bridged the gap considerably in the summer so kudos to them. But we're 6 games in and people need to learn not to lose their heads and call for sacking one of the most decorated managers in modern history because we've spent a lot. This shit takes time, he needed to overhaul the entire squad and clearly has some divas in his way he needs to put in the right place in the meantime. I don't think a Pogba would get along with Klopp or Pep let alone Mourinho to be honest.
Is this for real? 
Obviously it was with the national team, but can you confirm it was his attitude and not a tactical problem? Pogba is not someone who has shown attitude issues throughout his career.
Time will tell if this is true but I hope to god it is , this guy thinks he is bigger than the manager and bigger than the club .
Jose must stand up to him
Jose must stand up to him
I stand corrected Thanks. I was under the impression that SAF had had enough of him, probably heard it in the media somewhere
Zero quotes. Many meltdowns.Is this for real?
There's nothing "between lines" in these quotes. How are you seriously comparing Mourinho quotes about his CEO and this specific Pogba quotes about his manager ? Read both again.
My friend supports Arsenal and he hates Utd and in Jose's first season he told me that Jose was going to ruin Rashford and Martial and will have us playing ugly football and would loose the dressing room. He also said we haven't got the same Jose that was at Porto, Chelsea And Inter. He said Jose had changed..
Is he supposed to lie & day how great we are & have ‘character ‘ ala a smarmy rogers type?
I’d rather a manager who actually gives an honest opinion to the fans then pr rubbish
The 'Madrid broke him' line is one that is often dismissed but seems pretty solid once you look at his career/management before and after.
Anguish and despair.
And you know that how ? For all we know there could 5-6 players who have a problem with Mourinho - but simply 2 that are outspoken. It's impossible - it just as well may only be 2. The problem is - those are 2 of the 3 in our side with the highest individual potential
United first stent ? I mean Fergie literally said he disrespected the club after he left to Juve. Fergie tried to keep him by sending Evra to convince him but he didn't care and followed Raiola out.
Have the BBC reported it?
It's a bit ironic, they are saying Jose is the same manager that loses dressing rooms yet he's changed. Stick to an agenda or don't.
He is the same manager, it's just the level of competition and the global spread of money that's changed. He never had to face as much competition as this in his career in regards to a "top 6."
To play devils advocate, for those calling out Pogba for speaking out against the manager publicly, is this not playing him at his own game. Jose was throwing them under the bus all last season and this pre-season, him publicly telling the press that our defenders weren't good enough probaly wasn't great for their confidence.
He may have been telling the truth but so is Pogba with regards to our style of football, Fergie wouldn't have put up with a player doing this, but Fergie wouldn't treat players like Jose has the likes of Shaw and Martial. If Mourinho wants to go to the press to pin blame on his players to absolve himself of responsibility for his tactical set up, then I don't care if a payer contradicts him by actually sugegetsing it may have a lot do with the manager himself.
He may have been telling the truth but so is Pogba with regards to our style of football, Fergie wouldn't have put up with a player doing this, but Fergie wouldn't treat players like Jose has the likes of Shaw and Martial. If Mourinho wants to go to the press to pin blame on his players to absolve himself of responsibility for his tactical set up, then I don't care if a payer contradicts him by actually sugegetsing it may have a lot do with the manager himself.
I will second this. Seems very immature to be a captain and it looks clear to me they only gave him the armband to keep him. The only captain I can see is Matic and Valencia due to their experience. I’d even choose Fellaini over Pogba if he played more, at least he’d be more vocal
Potential means feck all of they can't consistently meet it.
I love how everyone assumes he’s lost the dressing room because a player with a known wanker for an agent is talking shit, but will happily ignore anything good other players might say.
Yes.
Mourinho: "I need xxx players and I have none. I gave the list to the club 5 months ago. You need to speak to the CEO about transfers."
Pogba: "We need to attack but we are not. I always give my best for the club. You have to speak to the manager"
I mean it's almost like they have the same PR agent?
I would bet when Jose is down that Smalling and Shaw would love to put the boot in.
Before I get any further into this - did you want LvG (highly successful manager in the past too) to be sacked when it was painfully obvious for anyone with the pair of eyes that he’s out of his death in the same way Jose currently is?
Why are people obsessed with quotes. Still.
Ffs .
Ffs .
Nothing to do with style of play and everything to do with output from end of Jan 2018 onwards.
I'd agree Lukaku is probably the most suitable. He has a great attitude and is similar to Mourinho and loves him so it'd make sense too. Ander would be decent too but he's lost his spot.
But even without a great contender Pogba is still at the bottom of the list. He is whiny, his attitude stinks, his effort on the pitch is abysmal half the time, he plays for himself and he clearly isn't capable of ever taking any criticism and thinks the sun shines out of his ass. Having some talent doesn't make a captain and Pogba certainly isn't one. It'd be like Martial being a captain. I'd choose pretty much any player from our starting XI as captain over Pogba.
He meant changed in a bad way as in he's changed for the worse..It's a bit ironic, they are saying Jose is the same manager that loses dressing rooms yet he's changed. Stick to an agenda or don't.
He is the same manager, it's just the level of competition and the global spread of money that's changed. He never had to face as much competition as this in his career in regards to a "top 6."
Dissecting the quotes the way you like ? I see you obviously left "I know he tries the best for me" and "“If it is possible, good, if it is not possible we keep fighting, working and believing in the players that we have." Because it doesn't suit your opinion and proves it wrong. Pogba quotes after Wolves on the other hand are all on the same line.
Just admit that you're wrong.
Can't imagine you would feel that warmly towards a manager who accused you of exaggerating your injuries.
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