Fracture90
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I honestly hope that we will appoint a proper DoF not a dummy one, but rather a real one with actual executive power and if possible history and background with UTD, before Mourinho gets sacked.
Agree, not holding my breathe thoughI honestly hope that we will appoint a proper DoF not a dummy one, but rather a real one with actual executive power and if possible history and background with UTD, before Mourinho gets sacked.
Ancelotti just joined Napoli. I like him but I'm not sure he would be the right appointment for United in this time. His league record isn't anything to shout about.Is Ancelotti available? I'd trust him much more than Zidane?
Woodward holds way too much power when it comes to appointing new managers and he simply cannot be trusted to appoint a new one, especially after the disasters that were LVG and Mourinho. Yes I'm counting Moyes out because he wasn't his appointment, he was SAF and Gill's wish.Agree, not holding my breathe though
But it's look that way since the summer just gone, that's the mad thing. I don't know who it truly benefits hanging on for months more of this tumescent crap.The only question left is if we sack him now or in the summer, he’s gone regardless.
Who would that be though? Nicky Butt? He's done well with the academy.I honestly hope that we will appoint a proper DoF not a dummy one, but rather a real one with actual executive power and if possible history and background with UTD, before Mourinho gets sacked.
It was strange. This was a game to play him in.Doesn't anyone else find it really strange Pereira didn't make the squad?
Pretty certain Gill was more in favour of bringing in a experienced trophy winning manager.Woodward holds way too much power when it comes to appointing new managers and he simply cannot be trusted to appoint a new one, especially after the disasters that were LVG and Mourinho. Yes I'm counting Moyes out because he wasn't his appointment, he was SAF and Gill's wish.
Agree. I don't blame him for Mourinho though, I wouldn't have done it, but it seemed like a sensible short term choice to win a major trophy at the time. I just hope that now short term thinking dies and we start thinking about our long term strategyWoodward holds way too much power when it comes to appointing new managers and he simply cannot be trusted to appoint a new one, especially after the disasters that were LVG and Mourinho. Yes I'm counting Moyes out because he wasn't his appointment, he was SAF and Gill's wish.
He wasPretty certain Gill was more in favour of bringing in a experienced trophy winning manager.
Yeah, surprised me too.Doesn't anyone else find it really strange Pereira didn't make the squad?
I've heard multiple times that the compensation is to be around 40-50MWhat would compensation be if we fired him? 21 months left on his contract at probably £1m a month. That’s a £21m knock right off our profits. I think we just announced profits of ~£45m. That’s almost half our profits knocked off just to get rid of him. feck all chance of that happening (note I’ve assumed we would replace him with a manager on a similar salary, and this is also ignoring possible compensation for taking another manager).
Yeah, the more I think about it, the more I realise there is zero chance until the no champions league clause kicks in.
Believe it gotta be someone older or with more football experience.Who would that be though? Nicky Butt? He's done well with the academy.
That can't be right, his contract is up in 2020I've heard multiple times that the compensation is to be around 40-50M
Then your expectations are not very high.i'm just saying that Mourinho is no where near the brink currently based on results.
I blame him for both tbh because in blindly following their CV's and accolades he failed to understand how poor of a fit they'd be for UTD.Agree. I don't blame him for Mourinho though, I wouldn't have done it, but it seemed like a sensible short term choice to win a major trophy at the time. I just hope that now short term thinking dies and we start thinking about our long term strategy
They had the right idea initially because everything suggests Moyes was a backup option. They went for Guardiola first iirc.Pretty certain Gill was more in favour of bringing in a experienced trophy winning manager.
Correct. Worst comes to worst, you put someone like that on gardening leave for the rest of his contract.That can't be right, his contract is up in 2020
Maybe because they are 70 and 72 year old, respectively?I blame him for both tbh because in blindly following their CV's and accolades he failed to understand how poor of a fit they'd be for UTD.
Lippi and Capello are also highly decorated, have impressive CV's and trophy rooms yet they don't get much work at top clubs no more for a reason.
That's the killer.That's two teams in Wolves and Derby, who have rocked up at Old Trafford in the last few days and have looked better coached, better drilled and more cohesive than anything we've shown. They haven't got lucky with their result, they weren't outplayed, they didn't rely on fortune to get them through and they deserved everything they got. That's the most damning part of all.
There is no sign whatsoever of any progression.
Yes. We have also spent a shedload of money.Whatever word. They have followed a structured strategy / plan of improvement over a number of years (and, in the case of City, spend a shedload of money) both in terms of player recruitment and, in tandem, tactical approach. We seem to have employed a scattergun approach to player and manager recruitment and play a different team and different tactics almost every game.
IMO, even with a clear strategy, plan, investment and careful implementation, it will take years to get back to where we need to be.
It may be. He was on 15mil before we extended it and the new contract bumped up his salary and added another year. We could have to pay it up in full if we wanted to sack him. It cant be understated how bad a decision it was to give him that extension.That can't be right, his contract is up in 2020
Oh, absolutely. It just makes it even more stark when it happens twice in three fecking days. At home.That's the killer.
And, let's be honest, Wolves and Derby are just the latest in a long list.
Don't think age has anything to do with it tbh, it's more down to their obsolete football philosophy .Maybe because they are 70 and 72 year old, respectively?
Yes, after the relative promise of his first season and the start of the second, it’s a trajectory going back all the way to December/January of last season.That's the killer.
And, let's be honest, Wolves and Derby are just the latest in a long list.
Unless we finish bottom of our CL group, the backdoor route to qualifying next season is going to be there for us until at least March.I think/fear you're right. Although Mourinho has a track record of putting his teams into such a dramatic tail-spin that this mathematical impossibility of CL football could hit us a lot sooner than we think.
Exactly.That's two teams in Wolves and Derby, who have rocked up at Old Trafford in the last few days and have looked better coached, better drilled and more cohesive than anything we've shown. They haven't got lucky with their result, they weren't outplayed, they didn't rely on fortune to get them through and they deserved everything they got. That's the most damning part of all.
I'll admit, this isn't looking for Jose or the club, right now.That's two teams in Wolves and Derby, who have rocked up at Old Trafford in the last few days and have looked better coached, better drilled and more cohesive than anything we've shown. They haven't got lucky with their result, they weren't outplayed, they didn't rely on fortune to get them through and they deserved everything they got. That's the most damning part of all.
There is no sign whatsoever of any progression.