81% wanted JM as United manager, it has been said how he is 100% what we need, a winner, which he is/was. I am not for JM sacking but regardless, we should make a decision regarding direction where we want to go before hiring a new manager. It would be way funny if you extend Afro`s contract just to hire some tiki taka lunatic as next United manager ( when JM steps down ).
Our options are limited, who next?
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No, Zidane was a DOF for Madrid and Blanc has mainly been a good manager at the exception of one game where he lost it and used a system that he didn't really worked on, due to injuries but still.
Not sold on Zidane either, but he will be the one due to his reputation as it fits the "increase the value of our global brand" strategy.
I don't get this brand narrative, particularly when people are unable to name any viable and available candidates. Who are these obvious managers not named Zidane that show more promises?
Give it to Frank Rijkaard , tempt him out of his retirement or wherever he is as interim manager till end of season.
I wanted Jose. I thought him with a machine that backs their manager like utd would be great. I really underestimated how bad the squad was prior to his arrival, so to be fair, he has had to sign a couple of players for a lot of money, but has done a decent job in that regard ( some fails particularly in defence, but our squad is much better than the one he met). Then I started to notice a few things. First and foremost, he has never been able to replicate the football he has played at other clubs with the one at utd. It used to be difficult entering a mourinho midfield, a huge risk. At utd, its like slicing through butter. Secondly, the club have been recieving a lot of bad press since his arrival. We may have always been hated, but as a club we have always been conservative, not drawing too much attention to ourselves, mourinho on the other hand, has brought the board and our players into the media spotlight in a way that had not been done prior, even under LVG. Thirdly a lot of fans never wanted him because they did not like even his best football, they felt it was too conservative for utd and did not want his drama, this has also resulted in us recieving higher press coverage because the media knows how easily a bad result can affect how utd fans feel about the team, as they never like Jose in the first place. In short, I wanted him, but i did not realize how bad a fit he was. Where I saw a potential dynasty, he's proven in his tenure here that that was never possible with a manager like him, particular when he was courting PSG in February. He had his chance here and blew it. Sure Pogba maybe a diva and should be sold, sure Martial is lazy, sure the club has some major personnel issues to handle, but the reality of the situation is, Jose failed and alot of it was his own doing. The war with conte, the calling out of the board, the PSG debacle, the public denunciation of certain players, the inability to adopt a more attacking style, the signings or Mhikitaryan, Bailly and Lindelof, the failure to adopt a permanent formation, and his consistently dour demeanor.
Blanc is a good shout if he has the right support system. He has a connection with the club, with a proven track record of playing decent football and winning. He also isn't too big, and would therefore be willing to make a name for himself, while also would be willing to stay long term. If you can hire a top notch technical director that can work with him on transfers and bring in valuable players to the squad, it would be a good match to make. He's young, he's hungry.
I genuinely dont know. Zidane had elite players and didnt do as well in the league, great man manager and motivator (not to all players tho) but he has been questioned about his tactics. Conte has won the league and is a good tactician but he doesnt feel like the right fit for me. Jardim might be a shout but hes not doing so well right now. None of the PL managers fit they're either at clubs doing better than us or are not proven themselves.
I think the board will go for Zidane mainly for the brand name, thats who they would want to get. No idea if he would workout here or not.
I think the board will go for Zidane mainly for the brand name, thats who they would want to get. No idea if he would workout here or not.
Watching the Chelsea v Liverpool game has clarified in my mind that whoever we appoint next has to be the right fit in terms of style of football.
Watching us lose sucks but watching all of City, Liverpool and Chelsea play attractive, entertaining football at the same time is nearly worse.
I've given up trying to predict who will or won't be a successful manager but we can at least make sure they fail whilst trying to play good football.
I don't think Zidane is that sort of manager, so I don't want him. I have no idea who is but then I knew little about Sarri until relatively recently either.
Watching us lose sucks but watching all of City, Liverpool and Chelsea play attractive, entertaining football at the same time is nearly worse.
I've given up trying to predict who will or won't be a successful manager but we can at least make sure they fail whilst trying to play good football.
I don't think Zidane is that sort of manager, so I don't want him. I have no idea who is but then I knew little about Sarri until relatively recently either.
Zidane won the CL 3 times. You can be lucky once. Even twice. But 3 times?? Maybe he is not Ferguson, but right now he will bring momentum and we seriously need it. No point to wait one year before Juve come for him. There is no way we finish top 4 with Mourinho. All the other teams play better football and they do not have the toxic environment like we do. We have missed Anceloti, Klopp, Pep etc for Moyes and LVG. We already missed Sarri this summer, lets no do the same mistake.
I'm very cautious about Zidane for a lot of reasons, but al ot of these are complete bollocks.
He took over in January 2016 and finished just 1 point behind Barca by the end of the season (and won the CL). His first full season in 16/17, he won the title (and Champions League). Then last season of course there were some motivational issues among other things, but they sorted it out eventually, finished 3rd and again, won the Champions League.
Hated by a number of players? Players not bothered by him resigning? Complete bullshit. Ronaldo by all accounts loved life under him. Bale didn't really fall out, he just wasn't part of his starting 11 so wanted to leave. Not really a shock that? He took over from Benitez after they were struggling a bit and turned them into a team that won the CL 3 times in a row. What he did at Madrid was incredible. Could he replicate it (to an extent) elsewhere? Can he use the same principles elsewhere? Feck knows, but your whole paragraph on Zidane is complete bullshit.
If it was up to me, I would
Sack Jose
Promote carrick
Appoint DOF
Let him chose the next manager.
In that order. We don’t need woodword choosing the next manager, that would be the worst possible scenario.
Sack Jose
Promote carrick
Appoint DOF
Let him chose the next manager.
In that order. We don’t need woodword choosing the next manager, that would be the worst possible scenario.
Brand narrative; Since the goal of this club is to increase and monetize the global reach of the brand that is Manchester United, and consequently increase the revenue, appointing one of the most famous managers in the world makes sense.
Business model: https://ir.manutd.com/company-information/business-model.aspx
Busness strategy: https://ir.manutd.com/company-information/business-strategy.aspx
And Woodward does not think that what happens on the pitch would impact the income:
http://www.espn.co.uk/football/manc...-make-money-regardless-of-results-ed-woodward
When we are appointing a manager or buying players, how "marketable" the transfer/appointment is affects the process on who we are appointing or buying.
Regarding Zidane and his potential appointment as manager of this corporation, there is the same risk as is with all new managers and transfers. We don't really know how it will work. Might be great, might be ok, or might be a disaster. The big "uncertainty" with ZZ is that managing our current crop of players is very different compared to managing the players he worked with at Real Madrid.
Personally i doubt the club/Woodward is even considering other managers beyond Zidane or Pochettino, and with Pochettino recent contract extencion, Zidane will be the new manager.
Nagelsmann, Tuchel, Poch, Jardim.
Too late for the bolded - Nagelsmann is going to RB and Tuchel was avavibale for a year before he went to PSG
RB Leipzig's next manager, current Psg manager who just started, Spurs current manager for whom Levy will ask for a kings ransom. I don't see how any of them are options.
Jardin I agree is an option.
That will never work. Can't have sentiments when employing a manager. Neville and Scholes have absolutely no credentials at all when it comes to managing so hiring them as manager would be a car crash.
Out of interest, apart from being a good past player, what on earth would make you put Carrick in charge, albeit temporary?
How has his influence been so far in what we're seeing?
Everyone is available, it’s a matter of cash. If you’re going to back a manager for £100+ million, you can afford the compensation.
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Its just ridiculous....Carrick as Man United caretaker manager for 7 months!!
This is the absolute crux of it.
You can lose a game, but if you've gone out with the intention to entertain and play attacking football, it's infinitely more acceptable than stuff like today, playing 3 totem pole slow midfielders, a winger at right back, and no actual wingers at all.
As horrible as it is to say, we need to follow the Klopp/Liverpool approach. Attacking manager, laying out what he's trying to do, and work towards that over time, with the right players for that system.
Literally no one apart from Zidane and the football is shite so....... we're fecked
Given the most popular gripes on here it's laughable to see Conte mentioned.
The next manager has to play top attractive football as its obviously what the fans want above all else. Rules out 99% of the top calibre managers really so it's going to have to be someone overperforming in a lesser club.
The next manager has to play top attractive football as its obviously what the fans want above all else. Rules out 99% of the top calibre managers really so it's going to have to be someone overperforming in a lesser club.
It's one of the worst suggestions I've seen so far.
No wonder the board don't want to rush into anything.
See how Valencia and Newcastle go, win those two and it'll all blow over for abit they probably think.
Until Chelsea away which we'll probably go into with a Lukaku as target man, and midfield 5 of McTom, Fellaini, Herrera Matic and Pogba
It's truly amazing. Go for a guy who plays just as defensive a style as Jose, and who falls out with just a few people less than him.
As well as being an absolute clown on the sidelines.
Dreadful.
Never liked the style of football real played when he was in charge. Relied on crosses and individual quality.. we literally fecked up with the managerial appointments.
You didn't respond to the question, at which point did the club hire a manager for brand reasons? Which one of Moyes, LVG and Mourinho were hired because of the brand when a better candidate should have been hired?
Any thoughts on Leonardo Jardim? His Monaco side was class.
There is Jardim but hes been doing awful at Monaco recently which worries me and his only good season was his second. Albeit it was an amazing season with great football but the first season was pretty poor in terms of style.
I would be. I like Martinez. Good offensively but not so good defensively.
Guess you'd go after Zidane as he's a flavour of the month choice.
If you go for caretaker option and then look again next summer I honestly wonder if they'd approach Wenger.
If you go for caretaker option and then look again next summer I honestly wonder if they'd approach Wenger.
I know I named him above, but the worry is he’s like LvG at Ajax, his squad at Monaco that season was class.
His Monaco side is in the relegation zone.
Nail on the head. Anyone that says zidane on the forum didn't watch madrid much or mayve 5 game a year. The same geniuses that said the la liga record for goals scored was set by mourinho.
Hopefully pochetinno but the United fans have such a low IQ that if we came 5th in s1 the geniuses would want him out
Not having a go at you but if profitability isn't hurt why do you club strat would change?
He’s not renowned for his tactical acumen...He’s not a visionary like Guardiola or a sharp tactician like Klopp or Pochettino...Having read and followed his tenure very closely at Real,his greatest quality seems to be his man management skills.He kept the Real dressing room United and happy...Even players who weren’t playing didn’t have a bad word to say about him.
Real were a team packed with superstars who won the CL 12 months before Zidane took over.So his good man management skills were enough at Real,but he”ll need to do much much more at United with our current players.I don’t think he’s ready for United...
didn't know thatI only followed monaco in their title winning season so..
I think Woodward will go for a stellar name. The management hardly cares about football. Only Zidane fits that category. Keeps Pogba at the club too. We can build a great squad but don't know about the style.
But atleast I know for a fact that we won't play on the backfoot if Zizou came in. I can deal with that. The sheer aspect of our game is to relinquish all sorts of possession and let the other team take the initiative. Zidane won't let that happen.
Wouldn't mind Blanc, honestly. He had PSG play some really nice football.
Poch or Tuchel for me. The proven winner requirement for some isn't as high for me. Can't really think of any young coaches that have won trophies this day and age in any decent league.
True and he's available