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Think of it like 2am at a pub, I tell myself I'm not gonna have another beer but there I am waving a tenner at the barman.
Would love that as well but unfortunately it won't happen.
What I would like clubs to do is re-negotiate this stance of having a manager getting fully compensated for in effect mismanaging the team. Surely there's got to be a better way to do this? It irks me that these managers are getting paid for failure. Completely insane.
We probably need a new manager appointed pretty soon. Unfortunately, Zidane is not the right choice to clean up this mess. I'd give it to Conte.
It's not just newbies though, isn't it. Every time I want to go online and yell how much I want a new manager, I see how Giggs, Carrick, Wenger and Simeone are suggested as replacements for what we have now by our fans and I print out another photo of Jose and and hit the sack with a box of Kleenex. There's valid frustration and then there's helpless rage of people who don't know shit about football.
He has been in the past as far as I can recall.
By the way that pictureas if that was the very moment they were on the phone together
"Awite Zizou, Mou here. I heard you're after my job you little prick"
"Nah mate you got me all wrong, I'm with Noel Clarke auditioning for the new Kidulthood movie, check this hoodie out blud"
"zinedine, with your champions league wins and our army of official partners, together combined we could get... more official partners"
I mean just cause we have opposing opinions doesn't mean that I know any less about football?
I was pro-Jose up until the video of him arguing with Pogba was leaked, that just shows how much he's let this spiral out of control and once he's lost a popular figure in the changing room I feel that there's no going back.
Since SAF, we've tried the manager that was supposedly frugal and effective, the manager that supposedly lays down the foundations for success then the manager that was supposed to win trophies immediately and look how that's turned out.
At this point I just wanna see entertaining football and nothing would be more satisfying than doing it with one of our own. Just look at Zidane's record before managing Madrid, he didn't exactly have much managing pedigree before he rocked up, only Castilla on his CV, and ended up winning 3 CL's.
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Agree. We saw all of this before. Begging that we sack the current manager and hoping the one who is free comes asap. I will be shocked when with Zidane at the helm we see problems again in a year or 2.
Whoever it is, i think it would be better to just throw him into cold water and force things to get going right away.
If the one one get´s appointed in June, there will be 2 months of marketing and photo shootings and expectation building and everyone expecting us to come out on matchday 1 and play like Barcelona. That´s not good. Let him get the grip now.
If the one one get´s appointed in June, there will be 2 months of marketing and photo shootings and expectation building and everyone expecting us to come out on matchday 1 and play like Barcelona. That´s not good. Let him get the grip now.
We sit currently 10th in the PL, out of the Carabo cup with a key champions League game on Tuesday and I don't remember ever being so detached from the club and I know I'm am not the only United Fan to feel this way so please indulge me for a minute or two while I recount Jose's Turbulent 27 months in charge;
FIRST SEASON
As you can see, Jose has wrote his own Obituary not the players, not Woodward. He has refused to settle in the area, picked fights with nearly all his players, rival managers, the Media and constantly reverted to type. Playing 'Park the Bus Football' and generally making sure our club is on the back pages for all the wrong reasons thus trying to turn the whole thing into a soap opera, yes he's not been helped by Pogba and his agent, Raiola but enough is now enough and the club need a change of direction, enfact any change of direction will start to rid the club of the current toxicity within it.
If we are lucky enough to recruit Zidane, then we will indeed need patience for success but at least we do know he will handle the club with far more professionalism and dignity and this soap opera will finally be finished.
FIRST SEASON
- Takes over the Club and tells the Media 'He wants it All, Attacking football, promote and play Youth players, win trophies, he wants to put a smile on the fans face because he has found a sad club like he did when he took over Madrid!'
- First transfer window looks exceptional and we should compete for top 3 at least, Jose decides not to buy a home in the area but stay at the Lowry Hotel. Zlatan on a free looks pure genius and Pogba at the time was on the cusp of greatness with Baily and Mkhitaryan being very good signings.
- Our build up play is still too slow and the club draw a record amount of games but only lose 5 in the league with Jose pragmatic style not being every fans cup of tea.
- He seems to be finding balance and has good attacking options with Rooney, Carrick and Zlatan being the wise old heads and true leaders of the dressing room.
- Rashford, Lingard and Martial all look to be improving under his coaching methods.
- He gets 24M for Schnederlain, 17M for Delay but puts in a buy back clause
- We do however win 2 trophies, the Europa League and Carabo Cup and after coming 6th find a way back into the champions League.
- All is good in the club and the trajectory looks as if it's going in the right direction, the fans start to buy into his idea of wining trophies at all costs with the football being unattractive plus we all know Jose Wins the League in his second season?
- Jose again does what looks like sensible business, resigns a recovering Zlatan, buys Lukaku, Lindelof, N Matic for about 168M and gets rid of Rooney!
- Jose is bullish, talks the team up before the Super cup Final against Madrid but States as he does in every match how strong the opposition are. We lose 2-1
- We start on fire win games 4-0 - Jose states 'He let the Horses Run Free' the truth is teams had got used to our slow pedantic build up they were shocked when they saw Lukaku, Rashford, Lingard , Pogba and Martial all runing at pace on the counter attack
- He suffers poor results against Huddersfield, Brighton, WBA, Stoke, the list is endless and deflects saying United have poor defensive options and can not buy 3 defenders for 150m pounds like City who walk the league.
- He decides to swap Mkhitaryan for Sanchez putting the player on a rumoured 500k per week disrupting the dressing room and causing Rashford and Martial to doubt themselves!
- He decides to once again deflect attention from himself by attacking other Managers within the league having a public spat with Conte
- He ostracized Luke Shaw for his weight and lack of professionalism, falls out with his star player Pogba and blaims everybody for the club coming second in the PL and losing the FA CUP final.
- Pre Season States that the club is in trouble and he needs 4 or 5 signings just to compete
- He doesn't get all his signings but spends 70M on Dalot, Grant and Fred
- Tells the Media that coming second with this United Squad was his best ever managerial performance - yep it's still all about Jose !
- Brings Luke Shaw back into the fold who starts the season well
- Changes the team in every game and becomes the new Tinker Man
- Calls out his defence in a defeat against Brighton
- FAlls out with Pogba in that game
- Loses at home to Spurs and again calls out his defence after picking A Herrera as a right CB in a 3
- Decides to play a double pivot to protect his defence against Burnley and Watford and wins but not convincingly
- Outplayed by Wolves and Derby at Old Trafford resulting in being effectively out of two competitions and the season is not yet in October!
- Spurts out more nonsense about 'Respect' and how he has won more PL Titles than the rest of the 19 managers put together looking to deflect attention to Klopp and Pochertino
- Has another very public spat with Pogba, dropping him against Derby and telling the Media he has stripped him of the vice captaincy!
- Calls out Rashford as silly boy to the Media for being sent off
- Selects S McTominay as a CB against West Ham, drops and ridicules Sanchez in front of the squad, then after losing his 3rd game in 7, blaims the officials and the Referee for the result.
- After the match he has a wry dig at the United Scouts for not doing a good a job as West Ham
As you can see, Jose has wrote his own Obituary not the players, not Woodward. He has refused to settle in the area, picked fights with nearly all his players, rival managers, the Media and constantly reverted to type. Playing 'Park the Bus Football' and generally making sure our club is on the back pages for all the wrong reasons thus trying to turn the whole thing into a soap opera, yes he's not been helped by Pogba and his agent, Raiola but enough is now enough and the club need a change of direction, enfact any change of direction will start to rid the club of the current toxicity within it.
If we are lucky enough to recruit Zidane, then we will indeed need patience for success but at least we do know he will handle the club with far more professionalism and dignity and this soap opera will finally be finished.
No they wouldn't. No manager ever will agree to a contract where the owner could just sack him whenever he wants and pay only a few months of wages. I think there obviously should be some clauses to be triggered if you have a bad start of the season. Let's say if the team has less than x points by the 1st of Nov, your payout will be much less if you are sacked. So we wouldn't need to wait til the end of the season to react. However rolling contracts are just impossible and not only managers leech millions doing rubbish job. Players like Jones are leeching the club for what, 8 years now?
It’s a good post, and I agree with much of it EXCEPT the hotel part. It’s nonsense to put that part in bold. The fact that Mourinho chose to live in a hotel has absolutely nothing to do with his commitment to the job.
Why should he buy a house or an apartament when his family is staying in London and he’s going to spend most of his day working anyway?
I didn't mean We should stick with Jose, We can just appoint Carrick as a caretaker manager. I doubt it though, Jose still has a contract here. Thanks Woodward and the board, you guys are truly geniuses ahead of our time.
Top tier post this is, really good summary of all the shit that's been happening during his time here. It shouldn't even be up for debate if he should stay or leave anymore we all know that when things turn ugly for Mourinho the path straight down to hell is very fast. The whole atmosphere around the club is incredibly toxic at the moment like it usually is when Jose is nearing his end at a club. There will be no more ups and downs we have now reached the stage where it will all collapse quickly and the whole dressing room turning their backs on him. I expect him gone by the end of the month.
I live 200 yards from the Lowry so I probably have a better understanding, it's a hotel room yes 5 star and he will have a suite, nice gym, nice bar but noisy as it's near the bridge that takes you into the City Centre. Most players and Managers would buy in Hale, Wimslow, Alderley Edge or Hale Barnes where they wouldn't get harrassed every time they went out for a walk or a meal.
Plus he is being paid enough money to buy a house in the area and get to know the area like Pep has, who has settled brilliantly in the North West, loads of green belt in Cheshire, lots of fine dining, great golf courses how can Jose living away from his wife 5 days a week be good for family life. Pep has all of his, all be it a younger family with him and they are very settled.
Don't underestimate how important this is to building success. There was one rumoured affair Jose was having with a Police Woman that was proved to be what it was complete nonsense but his wife living 150 miles away was not to know that now was she?
Didn’t Guardiola buy an aprtament in the middle of the city?
Anyway, I think it’s nonsense. Plenty of people with high preassure jobs commute quite far away from their family home. As far as I know Mrs. Mourinho wants to be close to their children who are studying in London (at least their daughter has been studying there) so how they arrange their family life is none of our business - and it’s certainly not indicative of Mourinho’s commitment to the job. There’s enough to beat him with other than something nonsensical like this.
I think his wife still doesn't know about it. But the media know and We know, which is all that matters. Hire the Police Woman, make Jose resign and appoint Zidane.
Rent a house like everyone else would. How are you suppose to settle in an apartment?
Here we go, discussing about the hotel again I really doubt any of Pep or Klopp would buy a house if they lived alone. They all have their families with them. Jose's situation is different, his family is in London due to multiple reasons. He is barely ever home due to work/traveling with the team. How is this still an issue for some I will never understand.It’s crazy
There are plenty of legitimate criticisms of Mourinho’s United tenure - his living situation is, however, not one of them.Exactly, in his situation I wouldn't buy a home without it being chosen by my wife and chlidren since I won't be the one using it the most.
I might get ridiculed for this but I would even have Allardyce as interim manager if it means we can get the right man in the summer.
But before you mock my preference would be Zidane, but if he decides it is too early then I would consider Butt but if that is not possible then someone who can steady the ship like Allardyce.
But before you mock my preference would be Zidane, but if he decides it is too early then I would consider Butt but if that is not possible then someone who can steady the ship like Allardyce.
It’s one of the more bizarre things that people criticise Jose for.
If we were a relagation threatened club then why not but that is never going to happen. I hope theybtake their time with this . maybe try and get a director of football and a manger who have worked together before or who want the same thing. Its time to modernise this club.
Yeah, you will and you should get ridiculed because it is absolutely ridiculous for you to even think it's a bad idea to type that, and to then actually post it.
Opposition fans have enough ammo to laugh at us with
If you think we play bad football now you'd be in for a very rude awakening under Allardyce
I don't know a single Everton fan round here with a kind word to say about him.Zidane, and Moratta from Juve could be quite lucrative.
https://rmcsport.bfmtv.com/football...un-siege-ejectable-zidane-favori-1534447.html
This was just posted on the United subreddit, anyone care to translate? I'll delete if they're just sourcing the Sun/Mail or something like that.
This was just posted on the United subreddit, anyone care to translate? I'll delete if they're just sourcing the Sun/Mail or something like that.
You will be and rightfully so. Would rather have Di Matteo then, might fluke another CL
All speculation and nothing new in there.
Conte? lol more defensive shite football
Give me strength.
Wasn’t Zidane pictured in London at the end of last week? Could be a coincidence but you never know.
Get him in asap and let him win 4 champions leagues in a row
There is actually something new, RMC are careful about their information and others. And in that article they say that it's their own source, Mourinho lost the dressing room and the club is actively looking for a new manager, according to their information Zidane is the front runner, they also say that Zidane is interested.
It was apparently for a FIFA event.
"Mourinho ejaculates in favor of Zidane".
