You were definitely wrong about that one as he's on pace to get about 1k yards rushing and receiving, plus 100 receptions.lets all take a moment to recall how right i was about not taking barkley second
You were definitely wrong about that one as he's on pace to get about 1k yards rushing and receiving, plus 100 receptions.lets all take a moment to recall how right i was about not taking barkley second
classicYou were definitely wrong about that one as he's on pace to get about 1k yards rushing and receiving, plus 100 receptions.
Ok good, so he doesn't suck. Glad we've made a bit of progress then.classic
the argument wasnt that barkley sucks but instead that any team picking in the top 5 had bigger needs than running back, which ive clearly been proved right on
one day to go, cards on the table.
josh allen will be a bust
saquon barkley will be decent but anyone who takes him in the top 5 will regret it and a running back drafted after him with have more approximate value in his career
best quarterbacks will be rosen darnold and mayfield
He's hardly been "decent" though has he. Only Gurley has more yards from scrimmage.no surprise raoul is just responding to what he wants instead of what people actually said
so will you admit i never said he sucked?He's hardly been "decent" though has he. Only Gurley has more yards from scrimmage.
As opposed to what ?And usng stats without context.
Absolutely. He has better YPC than Gurley, Zeke, and Hunt. Unfortunately, playing for a horrible team isn't doing him any favors in terms of getting recoginized.Barkley is a lot more than just decent imo.
Drafting a RB in the top 5 is justified for me but only if you don’t have other glaring needs, which the Giants obviously have at QB. However I don’t think they’d be off much better with Darnold, Allen or Rosen under center.
I'm actually more on your side to be fair. I think Barkley is terrific, I just don't think yardage total is really that reflective. The Giants offensive line is garbage, as is the QB, heavily impacting his stats.As opposed to what ?
hes averaging 2.9 yards per carry today. 3.1 last week. 3.2 against carolina. 2.5 against dallas. you are right that he has been better than decent but here are some things to consider:Barkley is a lot more than just decent imo.
Drafting a RB in the top 5 is justified for me but only if you don’t have other glaring needs, which the Giants obviously have at QB. However I don’t think they’d be off much better with Darnold, Allen or Rosen under center.
Ahh ok. I wasn't sure what you meant.I'm actually more on your side to be fair. I think Barkley is terrific, I just don't think yardage total is really that reflective. The Giants offensive line is garbage, as is the QB, heavily impacting his stats.
Barkley was the right pick. Once in a generation talent. You can drafta QB next year or get someone in FA. No QB would survive behind that O line anyways.lets all take a moment to recall how right i was about not taking barkley second
once in a generation? hes better than adrian peterson? better than todd gurley? better than leveon bell? marshawn lynch?Barkley was the right pick. Once in a generation talent. You can drafta QB next year or get someone in FA. No QB would survive behind that O line anyways.
thats fair, but i dont think solder is the only issue. i mean they started the year with ereck flowers. maybe mcglinchey would have helped.They tried to fix the O line in FA, I mean Solder had been good for the Pats, I thought they overpaid but I didnt think anyone expected him to be this bad.
Before the season started I would have agreed with you, I'd have much rather seen them take a lineman or a DB high in the draft, Denzel Ward would have made sense. But now having seen Barkley play, I think they made the right decision. Plus we're going to be at the top of the draft next year again, so if we can sort out the o line and get a semi competent QB, we should be able to compete. Will have some cap space too after cutting Eli.thats fair, but i dont think solder is the only issue. i mean they started the year with ereck flowers. maybe mcglinchey would have helped.
Is this sarcasm? The Cowboys fell apart last year after Zeke got suspended.In the end the point is that even the best Rb's hardly ever transform a bad franchise . Just look at Zeke at Cowboys for another similar example
but you could have done all of those things and had a promising quarterback now. or a top 10 lineman and 3 extra 2nds and 1 extra 5th now. you could have taken ronald jones, kerryon johnson, derrius guice, royce freeman with one of those seconds. or ito smith, jordan wilkins, or phillip lindsey with one of the 5ths.Before the season started I would have agreed with you, I'd have much rather seen them take a lineman or a DB high in the draft, Denzel Ward would have made sense. But now having seen Barkley play, I think they made the right decision. Plus we're going to be at the top of the draft next year again, so if we can sort out the o line and get a semi competent QB, we should be able to compete. Will have some cap space too after cutting Eli.
elliot averaged 4.1 yards per carry last yearIs this sarcasm? The Cowboys fell apart last year after Zeke got suspended.
So let me understand what we're saying here, Alfred Morris is as good as Zeke Elliott? Orleans Darkwa had better ypc than Leveon Bell last season, put that man in the Hall of Fame.elliot averaged 4.1 yards per carry last year
in the games without him, here is what alfred morris / rod smith did:
- 14 att, 67 yrd, 4.8 ypc
- 25 att, 102 yrd, 4.1 ypc
- 18 att, 77 yrd, 4.3 ypc
- 37 att, 154 yrd, 4.2 ypc
- 25 att, 109 yrd, 4.4 ypc
- 23 att, 74 yrd, 3.2 ypc
your memory doesnt align with what actually happened
Injuries to key players and a QB who couldn't throw are the reason the Cowboys' season fell apart.Is this sarcasm? The Cowboys fell apart last year after Zeke got suspended.
Seems to me he's saying Zeke's injury isn't the reason the Cowboys' season fell apart.So let me understand what we're saying here, Alfred Morris is as good as Zeke Elliott? Orleans Darkwa had better ypc than Leveon Bell last season, put that man in the Hall of Fame.
you said the cowboys collapsed without him. i just pointed out that is wrong. my comparison makes more sense because they played in the same offense behind the same offensive line. not so with darkwa and bell.So let me understand what we're saying here, Alfred Morris is as good as Zeke Elliott? Orleans Darkwa had better ypc than Leveon Bell last season, put that man in the Hall of Fame.