Mourinho at full time: "Pogba a virus. You don't play. You don't respect players/fans" [Castles]

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Don't even know why it's not discussed how inappropriate it is for a United manager to have a PR man for controversial leaks and propaganda. He certainly didn't deserve sympathy when it was 'leaked' he was getting sacked or when Ed briefed the press.
Seems to me he knows that excuses are wearing thin, so now he starts scapegoating players for intangible reasons like 'spirit', 'heart' and 'pride'. Of course, it is about players who are not Jose's favorites. The fact that this is leaked by that bald twat just shows the type of cnut Jose is.
 

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Materazzi's comments, even though he was trying to be complimentary of Mourinho, make me give Pogba the benefit of the doubt.
He said Mourinho always tries to look for enemies. I just think that's his nature. He's extremely combative. Different people have different ways for reacting to managers like this. I just think Pogba among others have simply shut down.
Manchester United would be stupid selling Pogba before finding out if another manager can get him to respond.
Another reason Mourinho needs to be sacked asap.
This would be ok if Mourinho was actually winning shit with us. A LC and EL is not worth this mess.

I see many Jose supporters have been silent of late regarding recent developments. No doubt they will emerge with green smileys and talk about how we are back if Arsenal bottle at OT and we shitehouse to a 1-0 win.
 

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Well, Pogba didn't play against Leicester which I was I gave the best player to Shaw, otherwise, I don't think I'm wrong with the rest. Martial was our best player against Everton and Bournemouth as well as in the draw to Chelsea.
Pogba played against Leicester and he was as good as Shaw. Now while I disagree with your assessment I misread your post and I can accept that you have a player or two above him in these matches but you can't say that he was far from these players.
 

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Not sure if it’s been stated but how exactly did castles get this info?
 

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Disagree. It takes more than talent to be a utd player, it takes heart, fight and determination, look at Gary Neville, never the best right back in the world yet held his spot down for over a decade by being resilient, and never giving up, unlike pogba who's head drops at the slightest thing and can't be relied on.
If that's the case then everyone at this club except for de Gea need to go. If Pogba's season thus far has no heart and thus s houldn't be at the club, what does that say for practically everyone at United considering Pogba has been better?
 

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So tired of the both of them.
 

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I don't believe it (did Castles have his ear to the changing room door?) but to be fair, it's spot on of his performance yesterday.
Pogba and Jose will likely go at the end of the season, its probably for the best unfortunately.
 

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Come on Ed, get on to an anti-virus partner. I had a go at Pogba post match last night too. I feel he thinks he’s too good for us and it looked yesterday he was playing at his own leisure, trying unnecessary tricks and flicks instead of simple passes to a teammate. I do think that’s disrespectful to your colleagues, supporters and the club in general.

Pogba’s bought into his own hype. Here’s the thing Paul, you’re only a world class player if you perform like one..consistently. As far as I’m concerned everyone at the club can feck right off! Apart from big Dave, that guy has stuck with us through complete shit when he deserves to be winning top honours. The fact he’s still here is a miracle
 

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Another thing is that it's Castles leaking it. I don't think he would have if Mourinho didn't want it out there.
Bingo. He's shifting the blame and/or looking the fans to turn on Pogba.
 

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I don't care anymore.

There will be life after Mourinho, Pogba and any of these players.
 

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Pogba has his flaws and he needs to fix that but the real problem is Jose. Why cannot give consistent game time to fred or periera. It's funny how last season he was wanking over Brazilian footballers and now when he has two of them he has stopped playing them. We must make sure we have pogba for the new manager. If pogba disappoints with the new manager also then we can think of selling him but now there are bigger problems than pogba.
 

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Remember when Paul Scholes would consistently put in world class performances yet had the humble attitude of an average League 2 player? Pogba seems the complete opposite.

Him and Jose can take this fight outside and never come back as far as I'm concerned, take Ed Woodward too. These people are not representative of the team I support.
 

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I think Pogba deserves the benefit of the doubt. Mourinho is not Pogba's first coach. Heck he's not even his only coach at the moment and the other guy has nothing but praise for him.
 
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I think Pogba deserves the benefit of the doubt. Mourinho is not Pogba's first coach. Heck he's not even his only coach at the moment and the other guy has nothing but praise for him.
I agree - Jose is not the right guy for creative players.

KDB, Salah, Hazard now Pogba it's not a coincidence.
 

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Pogba was appalling. Unnaceptable in a club like United but more appalling was he doing the full 90 minutes. I don't get it
 

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I agree - Jose is not the right guy for creative players.

KDB, Salah, Hazard now Pogba it's not a coincidence.
Didn't Hazard win POTY under Mourinho? He's had huge success at several top European clubs; he didn't manage that with 11 big bruisers every match.
 
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Didn't Hazard win POTY under Mourinho? He's had huge success at several top European clubs; he didn't manage that with 11 big bruisers every match.
Then what happened the following season - he eventually falls out with him. He just can't help himself.
 

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I think the fact Pogba is such a flashy git has really got to a lot of people on here, the venom towards him is amazing really.
I think it is more that people can see how talented he is and get hugely frustrated when that talent doesn't translate to consistent performances. A player like McTominay will get more of a pass due to people understanding that his ceiling is nowhere near as high.
 

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He won’t be here in 6 months time let alone 2 years so it’s a bit of a pointless question.
You'd hope so, but if he makes top four then the Glazers will probably keep him. And he'll be too greedy to quit.
 

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You'd hope so, but if he makes top four then the Glazers will probably keep him. And he'll be too greedy to quit.
Don’t worry there’s not a hope in hell that this Utd side under Jose gets 4th ahead of Spurs.
 

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Pogba has put up terrible performances and yesterday night I had a feeling that he was doing it purposely. Maybe, actually, not but that's the feeling he gives. I won't mind if we encash on Pogba.
 

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Pogba is ridiculously overrated, he's no way near a KDB level. Always going to be a waste at 89m.
 

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Yesterday the amount of times Pogba showed obvious frustration at the awfulness in front of him was quite obvious to me? That's half the the reason he stalled with the ball so often, there was no movement or point of passing it forward.
 

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Didn't Hazard win POTY under Mourinho? He's had huge success at several top European clubs; he didn't manage that with 11 big bruisers every match.
Meh just let those who suck up all the negative like it's all 100% verified truth spread their crap about Jose. I want him gone from my club, but the lies that are posted about him are hard to tolerate, guy has been an immense manager, he's just at the wrong club for his tactics, with an assembled a odd squad (a fair amount of whom were purchased on his watch). Some of fans are just completely over the top and extremely disrespectful.

Just to add to your argument, he had Chelsea and Real teams that scored for fun and set records in doing so.
 

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Then what happened the following season - he eventually falls out with him. He just can't help himself.
True, but I don't think that's because hazard is a creative player, he falls out with everyone workhorses included.
 

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Pogba is ridiculously overrated, he's no way near a KDB level. Always going to be a waste at 89m.
That overrated player is the reason you were still able to say "wait until the end of the season for top 4" posts.
 

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Bingo. He's shifting the blame and/or looking the fans to turn on Pogba.
I thought that too, seems like a deflection from his own failings, if he can convince the fans it's all Pogba's fault then he'll buy himself some time. Thing is Pogba ain't the one picking these line ups.
 

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Meh just let those who suck up all the negative like it's all 100% verified truth spread their crap about Jose. I want him gone from my club, but the lies that are posted about him are hard to tolerate, guy has been an immense manager, he's just at the wrong club for his tactics, with an assembled a odd squad (a fair amount of whom were purchased on his watch). Some of fans are just completely over the top and extremely disrespectful.

Just to add to your argument, he had Chelsea and Real teams that scored for fun and set records in doing so.
Yeah I don't really understand it either.
We're about 7th/8th? Right now, and have a minus goal difference, so why posters feel the need to make up lies to slate Mourinho I don't know.
I think I'm pretty much in the same boat as you. Jose is a great manager, but it sadly hasn't worked here, it happens, it doesn't mean he's the worst manager to walk the earth who eats creative players for breakfast.
 

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Pogba is ridiculously overrated, he's no way near a KDB level. Always going to be a waste at 89m.
It’s hard to know if he’s overrated. What’s for sure is he is inconsistent. When he turns it on he looks like one of the best midfielders of the last ten years, that’s how good his best performances are and there aren’t many players you can say that about.
 
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