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In January winter window, it's a must as we wanted Varane or Koulibaly for 90-100m euro last summer, if we can use 100m left in summer for the winter so that'll go on 2018/19 transfer window spending book instead of 2019/20 so we can start fresh again in 2019 summer with zero spending, to spend another 150m for RW, DM and cheap CB like Toby, alongside with the sale of players like Rojo and Jones so realistically we could expect 30-45m from the sales to cover 150m+ spending.
This is a good point, hopefully the £100m we were willing to spend on Varane allegedly is also added to next summers transfer kitty.
 

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In January winter window, it's a must as we wanted Varane or Koulibaly for 90-100m euro last summer, if we can use 100m left in summer for the winter so that'll go on 2018/19 transfer window spending book instead of 2019/20 so we can start fresh again in 2019 summer with zero spending, to spend another 150m for RW, DM and cheap CB like Toby, alongside with the sale of players like Rojo and Jones so realistically we could expect 30-45m from the sales to cover 150m+ spending.
If I get what your saying the £90-100m we could spend on Koulibaly could come from last summer windows kitty, as Woody said £100m was available for the right player, that is the £100m surplus that we can spend now. So we would have our £150m budget + sales to so spend in the next window.

With Toby's release clause down to £25m, should we choose to sign him then we've got roughly £155-170m to strengthen our right wing, cdm and whatever else we feel needs strengthening between now and then. Am I right, please correct me if I'm wrong. But this sounds a decent scenario?
 

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We wont buy Koulibaly and another one. If we buy two CBs, it will be two younger ones that are also cheaper for the price of one top CB. Milenkovic + Militao for example. A top CB like Koulibaly or some very good ones with huge potential like Skriniar and De Ligt will cost 100m alone.
What an utterly pointless exercise that would be given our current roster.
 

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Milenkovic is a must buy as far as I'm concerned. He's gonna be amongst the best in a few years imo. Lindelof for example isn't even close to the potential of the young Serbian Tower.
 

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If we sign both Milenkovic and Koulibaly, then our defence potentially will look in very good shape. Just hope we don't lose sight of the attacking reinforcements that are also required.
That would be a great foundation to build off, as I think great team are built off a solid centreback pairing. I heard Milenkovic is available for £50m but they might add the dreaded United tax.
Hope the board take note of what everyone knows that we need a quality right winger and in my opinion an upgrade on Lukaku.
I think they need to sit down and identify where they think the problem areas are and buy players to fit these areas regardless off the cost. Although I cant see it happening.
 

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If I get what your saying the £90-100m we could spend on Koulibaly could come from last summer windows kitty, as Woody said £100m was available for the right player, that is the £100m surplus that we can spend now. So we would have our £150m budget + sales to so spend in the next window.

With Toby's release clause down to £25m, should we choose to sign him then we've got roughly £155-170m to strengthen our right wing, cdm and whatever else we feel needs strengthening between now and then. Am I right, please correct me if I'm wrong. But this sounds a decent scenario?
Yeah, correct. I'd want to replace Lukaku and add fullbacks for squad depth considering both Young and Valencia are 33-34+ but I don't think that is possible given our budget, maybe for the 2020-21 summer transfer window. However, I'd be surprised if the board and Jose follow that strategy but I really don't have a faith in them, crying for RW, they haven't got us RW for a long time even though it was one of weakest in attacking depth.
 

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Yeah, correct. I'd want to replace Lukaku and add fullbacks for squad depth considering both Young and Valencia are 33-34+ but I don't think that is possible given our budget, maybe for the 2020-21 summer transfer window. However, I'd be surprised if the board and Jose follow that strategy but I really don't have a faith in them, crying for RW, they haven't got us RW for a long time even though it was one of weakest in attacking depth.
I don't have much faith in them either. Our fullbacks have been crying to be upgraded for a long time. They just seem as if they want to put in the minimum required amount of money to attain top 4. At least we have Dalot although it is a big ask of him to produce consistent performances every week at his age, on the left I'd like to see Kieran Tierney as competition for Shaw. I'd like to get rid of Lukaku but most teams are not going to want to pay £200,000 a week for a striker who doesn't score enough and then maybe bring in someone like Piatek, would like Icardi but I think would be talking about £120m+.

In: Koulibaly £100m from last summer budget.
Milenkovic £50.
Try £25m? for Raphael cover/alternative fot Dalot.
Tierney £25m.
N'Didi £45m? to alternate with Perreira
Tanguy ?£80m?
Persic £50m
Piatek If he keeps his form up ?£50?

Out (approx):
Lukaku £50m
Rojo £20m (considering Everton were rumoured to be willing to pay £ 28 last year)
Jones £20m
Valencia Free
Matic ??£25m (Cant see this happening as Jose loves him)
Sanchez £20m (Whatever we can get. If anyone willing to pay his wages)

That works out £325 spend. Taking Koulibaly fee from excess left over from last transfer window.
Recopued £135.
Overall spend £180m approx.

Which I think the board would stretch too although, I have heard we have an unofficial figure of £150M+ whatever we get from player sales.
I think this was be a realistic and fair transfer window which I would personally be happy with.

For Cup games providing we don't get embarrassed like Derby Chong, Gomes, Greenwood and whatever youngster step up and look as if they deserve a game.
 

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I don't have much faith in them either. Our fullbacks have been crying to be upgraded for a long time. They just seem as if they want to put in the minimum required amount of money to attain top 4. At least we have Dalot although it is a big ask of him to produce consistent performances every week at his age, on the left I'd like to see Kieran Tierney as competition for Shaw. I'd like to get rid of Lukaku but most teams are not going to want to pay £200,000 a week for a striker who doesn't score enough and then maybe bring in someone like Piatek, would like Icardi but I think would be talking about £120m+.

In: Koulibaly £100m from last summer budget.
Milenkovic £50.
Try £25m? for Raphael cover/alternative fot Dalot.
Tierney £25m.
N'Didi £45m? to alternate with Perreira
Tanguy ?£80m?
Persic £50m
Piatek If he keeps his form up ?£50?

Out (approx):
Lukaku £50m
Rojo £20m (considering Everton were rumoured to be willing to pay £ 28 last year)
Jones £20m
Valencia Free
Matic ??£25m (Cant see this happening as Jose loves him)
Sanchez £20m (Whatever we can get. If anyone willing to pay his wages)

That works out £325 spend. Taking Koulibaly fee from excess left over from last transfer window.
Recopued £135.
Overall spend £180m approx.

Which I think the board would stretch too although, I have heard we have an unofficial figure of £150M+ whatever we get from player sales.
I think this was be a realistic and fair transfer window which I would personally be happy with.

For Cup games providing we don't get embarrassed like Derby Chong, Gomes, Greenwood and whatever youngster step up and look as if they deserve a game.
Lukaku on 200k is like 100K-150K in today's price, if we are looking at striker like Kane, he could be earning a £350K wage. I don't think we are going to offload him next summer but perhaps in 2020/21 where we can have enough money to replace him with world class striker, rather than average striker and a potential striker like Piatek. I'd prefer not selling Sanchez as we all know how talented he can be, it depends on manager situation, if Jose were replaced with the like of Poch, I think he'd be thriving in Poch's system.

If we get RW, CDM and CB and if they are all successful and performing so well in 2019-20, then in 2020/21 summer, we can add more depth in the squad and replace Lukaku with world class striker like Kane who can score 30+ a season, it would look good on paper, getting rid of player likes of Young, Jones, Rojo, Darmian. If still performing so well again in 2020/21 so there won't be any weakness in the squad, I'd prefer squad to be young and smaller squad rather than having big squad because it would limit our academy like Greenwood, Gomes, etc to get minutes in the cup.



In 2019/20
Koulibaly £100m from last summer budget

Pulisic RW - 50m-60m
De Long/Neves 70m or going for Eriksen 90m with a year left on contract ( it may be likely if Poch joined us), assuming Herrera can play so well in CDM as he did in 2016/17
Milenkovic - 50m

Out
Rojo - 20m
Jones - 20m
Darmin - 10m
Valencia - free

Recopued = £50m
Overall spend = 180m or 200m (Eriksen)

= net 130m-150m.

In 2020/21

30m RB and 30m LB as backup/important player competition for Shaw and Dalot
Kane - 150m+ with a potential add-on of 50m+, he's a safe purchase for us if Poch joined us.

Out

Lukaku £60m, clubs like Everton and Leicester City will be happy to pay for this
Young - free
Fellaini - free

Overall spend = £210m
out = £60m
Net £150m

De Gea
Dalot Milenkovic Koulibaly Shaw
Herrera
Eriksen Pogba
Pulisic Kane Martial

Romero
RB(NEW) Bailly Lindelof LB (NEW)
Matic
Fred Andreas
Lingard Rashford Sanchez

There's more quality in the squad but Jose will not get the squad to perform so well at full, Poch can get us to play so well and performing 100%, getting best out of the squad.
 

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I think that a manager like Poch could get a lot more out of team than Jose and would be one of of my favoured choices and as the Spurs players seem to really like him, i think it would give us more chance of getting them due to them wanting to play for him.

As De Jong is playing so well it would be hard to get him as I have heard a lot of big teams are after after him. One thing which irritates me big time is if we believe Derek Langley (which I do is that we could have got him and De Light for £300,000 each.

If we were to sign Neves do it before his value goes even higher, as I just found Wolves have mega rich owners that would play hard ball and I've heard City are potentially interested so I hope we don't end up in a bidding war. Would like either player.

Think it would be hard to sign Kane but he might want to leave Spurs to win trophies, providing they still haven't won anything by then. If we brought in Poch this summer and /Kane saw we were on the upward trajectory again along with the Poch factor I think we might have a chance of getting him. I think an appealing factor for some players might be the challenge of making our club great again.
Erikssen is a player I have always liked but didn't mention as i though he was unattainable. Unbelievable Spurs signed him for €18. Lots of teams kinked with him for years, just hop Real don't sign him as Modric replacement. Think Pulisic will be a bargain as he was quoted at about 100m not so long ago.

Think this is a very good team on paper and I personally would be happy to see this lineup. Only stumbling block I could see is Daniel Levy's reluctance to do business

De Gea
Dalot Milenkovic Koulibaly Shaw
Herrera
Eriksen Pogba
Pulisic Kane Martial


Romero
RB(NEW) Bailly Lindelof LB (NEW)
Matic
Fred Andreas
Lingard Rashford Sanchez

Thinnk both teams could work as i think under the right management Sanchez is still capable of possibly producing something special.

Think you have done well with the maths to stay within the budget. Really hope the youngsters start getting games as I've heard all the big teams have been sniffing around Gomes for a long time.
 

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Lukaku on 200k is like 100K-150K in today's price, if we are looking at striker like Kane, he could be earning a £350K wage. I don't think we are going to offload him next summer but perhaps in 2020/21 where we can have enough money to replace him with world class striker, rather than average striker and a potential striker like Piatek. I'd prefer not selling Sanchez as we all know how talented he can be, it depends on manager situation, if Jose were replaced with the like of Poch, I think he'd be thriving in Poch's system.

If we get RW, CDM and CB and if they are all successful and performing so well in 2019-20, then in 2020/21 summer, we can add more depth in the squad and replace Lukaku with world class striker like Kane who can score 30+ a season, it would look good on paper, getting rid of player likes of Young, Jones, Rojo, Darmian. If still performing so well again in 2020/21 so there won't be any weakness in the squad, I'd prefer squad to be young and smaller squad rather than having big squad because it would limit our academy like Greenwood, Gomes, etc to get minutes in the cup.



In 2019/20
Koulibaly £100m from last summer budget

Pulisic RW - 50m-60m
De Long/Neves 70m or going for Eriksen 90m with a year left on contract ( it may be likely if Poch joined us), assuming Herrera can play so well in CDM as he did in 2016/17
Milenkovic - 50m

Out
Rojo - 20m
Jones - 20m
Darmin - 10m
Valencia - free

Recopued = £50m
Overall spend = 180m or 200m (Eriksen)

= net 130m-150m.

In 2020/21

30m RB and 30m LB as backup/important player competition for Shaw and Dalot
Kane - 150m+ with a potential add-on of 50m+, he's a safe purchase for us if Poch joined us.

Out

Lukaku £60m, clubs like Everton and Leicester City will be happy to pay for this
Young - free
Fellaini - free

Overall spend = £210m
out = £60m
Net £150m

De Gea
Dalot Milenkovic Koulibaly Shaw
Herrera
Eriksen Pogba
Pulisic Kane Martial

Romero
RB(NEW) Bailly Lindelof LB (NEW)
Matic
Fred Andreas
Lingard Rashford Sanchez

There's more quality in the squad but Jose will not get the squad to perform so well at full, Poch can get us to play so well and performing 100%, getting best out of the squad.
I think that a manager like Poch could get a lot more out of team than Jose and would be one of of my favoured choices and as the Spurs players seem to really like him, i think it would give us more chance of getting them due to them wanting to play for him.

As De Jong is playing so well it would be hard to get him as I have heard a lot of big teams are after after him. One thing which irritates me big time is if we believe Derek Langley (which I do is that we could have got him and De Light for £300,000 each.

If we were to sign Neves do it before his value goes even higher, as I just found Wolves have mega rich owners that would play hard ball and I've heard City are potentially interested so I hope we don't end up in a bidding war. Would like either player.

Think it would be hard to sign Kane but he might want to leave Spurs to win trophies, providing they still haven't won anything by then. If we brought in Poch this summer and /Kane saw we were on the upward trajectory again along with the Poch factor I think we might have a chance of getting him. I think an appealing factor for some players might be the challenge of making our club great again.
Erikssen is a player I have always liked but didn't mention as i though he was unattainable. Unbelievable Spurs signed him for €18. Lots of teams kinked with him for years, just hop Real don't sign him as Modric replacement. Think Pulisic will be a bargain as he was quoted at about 100m not so long ago.

Think this is a very good team on paper and I personally would be happy to see this lineup. Only stumbling block I could see is Daniel Levy's reluctance to do business

De Gea
Dalot Milenkovic Koulibaly Shaw
Herrera
Eriksen Pogba
Pulisic Kane Martial

Romero
RB(NEW) Bailly Lindelof LB (NEW)
Matic
Fred Andreas
Lingard Rashford Sanchez

Thinnk both teams could work as i think under the right management Sanchez is still capable of possibly producing something special.

Think you have done well with the maths to stay within the budget. Really hope the youngsters start getting games as I've heard all the big teams have been sniffing around Gomes for a long time.

What you think @deafepl should have linked it to previous correspondance but forgot to do it as I was a bit tired
 

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I don't think poch has the players required for his style as well, I think Zidane is better suited to the squad.
Don't fully understand your comment mate. That is why a few potential signings were mentioned :confused:. Can you please explain what I don't seen to be getting. sorry if I sound stupid bro
 

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Fair enough everyone is entitled to the opinion which I respect 100%. Did you read the whole post to see circumstances how this may happen mate? Think the key is possibly not definitely bro
I respect your opinion buddy but getting Kane from Spurs whilst Levy's in charge…that's wishful thinking imo. Eriksen is not so impossible considering his contract is running down and by the looks of it, he won't be signing now.
 

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I respect your opinion buddy but getting Kane from Spurs whilst Levy's in charge…that's wishful thinking imo. Eriksen is not so impossible considering his contract is running down and by the looks of it, he won't be signing now.
I know this and I can fully undeerstand your point of thinking as Levy is a particularly hard man to negotiate with and I also realise that it is wishful thinking on my part but we can dream.

If we manage to get either of the 2 (preferably
both, although I am greedy :devil:) I'd be extremely happy.
 

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I know this and I can fully undeerstand your point of thinking as Levy is a particularly hard man to negotiate with and I also realise that it is wishful thinking on my part but we can dream.

If we manage to get either of the 2 (preferably
both, although I am greedy :devil:) I'd be extremely happy.
Hey dude Kane in UTD shirt was/is one of my biggest wishes tbh.
 

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Mine too. Agree with you 100% bro.

I think with the right players around him he could get us challenging for the biggest trophies, which i think we should be aspiring to not aiming for top 4 every year.
We're derailing the thread :D

But my God he's a special player. Don't think we'd need to surround him with that much talent tbh, would just add a RW and that's pretty much it.
 

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Is a bit unbelievable getting a player of that calibre for 18quid. Bargain of the century mate :lol:. Typo meant to be €18m. Thanks for correcting me and I'd be ever so grateful if you could do it again in the future if I make such a stupid mistake thanks :)
You're a contender for 'nicest' poster of the year mate.:D
 

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Better than Vidic?

I mean, this is the ruthless Vidic we're talking about. His tackles were hard af. Are you sure Stankovic?

EDIT:
Just watched the video, 2 minutes in I already noticed how often he likes to slide his tackles.

Good stuff. His physical ability might surpass Vidic I suppose..
First red flag.
 

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Dont mind him, Serbian defenders are a good omen. But we need another one, if we can get Toby for his clause (25m?), that would be a massive upgrade on Jones and Rojo. I doubt we will buy a top CB for 100m, so Toby it is.
 

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Would anyone be shocked, though, if we signed him and played him as RB?

I could definitely see it. Smalling and Lindelöf continuing to mediocre the place up with him at RB. Like the new Ivanovic….
 

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Would anyone be shocked, though, if we signed him and played him as RB?

I could definitely see it. Smalling and Lindelöf continuing to mediocre the place up with him at RB. Like the new Ivanovic….
He could provide cover at RB for sure. But I hope we play him as CB.
 
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Is he cup tied for champs lge?
Don't worry about that, we'll be out soon.
First red flag.
Watched a few of his videos/highlights. To be fair to him, they do look like well controlled sliding tackles as opposed to say........ Rojo-style sliding tackles.

And for the posts saying £20m for Jones, (1) he's lower PL level at best and (2) on a free in 6 months so can discuss Bosmans in 2 weeks. Who's going to pay £20m?
 

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The original tweet from Di Marzio saying we're strongly pursuing the Serbian Tower.