Yeah and leave him to get on with making sponsorship deals with noodle companies etc.Now let's sack Woodward from all football related matters while we're at it
Man Utd set to appoint Director of Football (when hell freezes over)
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Wouldn't it be the board that decides who the new DoF is?
The DoF will be reporting to Woodward apparently. Not my ideal scenario.
Neville can stay on TV, talk nonsense for all I care. He should not make decision for the club ever.
If we'd had him as DoF, Moyes would've been still in charge. Tired of his personal agenda.
If we'd had him as DoF, Moyes would've been still in charge. Tired of his personal agenda.
Your ideal scenario has an employee not responding to the CEO?
Maybe he wants a Chief Audit Executive
Well of course, woody is the CEO.
What I'm getting at is a dof would be appointed by the board so it wouldn't be solely Ed Woodward choice although he would have a say in it I'd think
What I'm getting at is a dof would be appointed by the board so it wouldn't be solely Ed Woodward choice although he would have a say in it I'd think
The problem will start to arise in this case if Ed vetoed Dof choices for managers or players. He will feel his decisions aren't that important and will decide to leave for some place else. Ideal scenario is for Ed is to staw away from football side completely and limit his role to just paying the money, otherwise he'll feck up the dof's job with his intereferenc.
So the issue will start when made up scenarios will occur.
If he's reporting to Ed you're expecting Ed to say yes blindly to anything the Dof says ?
Then why would they hire a dof? I really don't believe woody has been sticking his nose into the footballing side as much as its made out to be here. I certainly believe he might have told Jose no a few times and given some of the players Jose has been pushing for rightfully so.
If you are running the business and money is only a marginal consideration, you look for a DoF with experience at your level, with top clubs. And a successful track record. No way they bring in Evra to do the job.
Secondly, since you don’t know who the next manager is, his philosophy, then you will bring in a real professional, someone who has built multiple sides with different philosophies for each side, depending on the manager.
Secondly, since you don’t know who the next manager is, his philosophy, then you will bring in a real professional, someone who has built multiple sides with different philosophies for each side, depending on the manager.
DOFs should be answerable only to God a bit like the pope is
If a dof says beat psg to mbappe by spending 180 m. Surely ed has to come in and say if the deal is feasible or not.
Not really the position. The problem is only because it is Woodward.
The problem will come if Woodward still has loads of say in footballing decisions. Because we have seen him do it for many years and he seems to be not good at it.
Not suggesting that DoF be given unlimited money to do whatever he wants, but just the freedom to work independently.
All I want to see is him not interefering much in Dof's job once we get him. Ed will need to understand that Dof will know more about football than him.
That's it. He'll have to only handle the financial part of deals but he shouldn't have any opinion on if this player will be good enough or not. DOF should be running the football side completely with the manager assigned to coach players and Ed for financial parts of deal. Let everyone do their job they are best at.
There is no club where this happens. You think Birgiristan can go to Khaldoon and ask for anything he wants?
Well, yes Txiki is the one running the football side at City. The Arabs are only providing money.
There is no sense to what you write. A DOF isn't spending his own money, he spends the club's money and ultimately the CEO, CFO and COO will be answerable to the board. Every DOF is given a budget that matches a goal, he is expected to be fiscally prudent, if he isn't his superiors will tell him to do one. And no one with a little bit of sense will act as if it wasn't normal.
It's crazy that anyone tries to turn it into a negative.
He still answers to those owners or whoever is the CEO.
Well I don't think he vetoed all the mourinho signings based on how good the players were but on how much feaseable and reasonable the deal was. As far as I feel he would have got mourinho a cb if they were within financial limits. There are few exceptions to those I feel when he could have signed players based on their reputation which dint work out but those examples are very limited. Financially he cant be kept out but who to buy and how to plan should be dof territory.
You understand what I said means Ed should be concerned only with financial parts of the deals only, but he shouldn't interfere with footballing decision like this player will improve us or we need this in such position because players in it aren't good enough. His job should only be about money but he shouldn't have any decision when it comes to which players we need or which manager should be appointed.
There is no club where the DoF doesn't report to a CEO. Txiki cannot go and spend x amount of money without permission.
But no one in the club is telling him if the players or managers are good enough or not, which is what I want.
OK where is the proof he did that? As far as I know he said no to mourinho last summer to players because they were not financially viable for the club.
Th arabs have got no budget except ffp restrictions.
My post was the first one quoted.
And no, I am not trying to turn anything into negative. Just that Woodward with his "football" decision makings at the club for all these years doesn't seem to be really a smart man to take a footballing decision, but yes you are right that no club will have the DoF get unlimited budget or power and is always answerable.
I think that is pretty much the point I am trying to make. If you still don't understand, I don't think I have anymore means to explain the same.
He has been in charge of appointing managers on his own choice and he clearly vetoed signings because they thought we have better players in this position like the briefing said. What will be the dof reaction if he was told that ?
I was surprised it took so much time for the media to put this viewpoint.
He vetoed it because it was financially not feaseable.
And thank feck for that. We would have swapped Martial for Willian, bought Perisic for stupid money, sold Shaw, Pogba and every player who have at least some talent.
This point wasn't about you, if I wanted to quote you on that topic I would have done it.
The brief said it would be like replacing our 5th defender with another 5th defender. I don't think it would have made any difference to the shite season, but Ed did have opinion when it comes to transfers. He didn't saction deals blindly because they are available. He refused to pay for Morata to go and pay exacty the same on Lukaku, again not that it was wrong or right but he had opinion from football side too. How would DOF enjoy being told that ? He won't the manager to ask to just coach the players. If he feels his football opinions aren't appreciated he will simply leave.
Still better than just Woodward and the manager making the calls. If we can get someone in with some good experience and knowledge we might start building for the future and hopefully Woodward will value the input, if not what's the point of having one?
I think mou wanted lukaku ahead of morata. Once the fees matched we went for the former
I think both were options on his list so we tried to get one of them. Ultimately we decided that investing in Lukaku is more worth than Morata. Don't get me wronf Morata isn't shite anyway and Ed was right in some of his vetoing decisions but if he brings a dof with a better ideas then Mourinho him intefering can then be a problem.
Ed needs to tell the Dof the budget of the summer and lets him choose the players the team needs.
Yes. Agree that DoF is a must and adds loads of value in our otherwise not good club structure.
Gabriele Zamagna seems like a good shout. He's been doing a very good work at Atalanta
Which he most certainly is.
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