What would convince you that Ole should be made permanent manager?

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Top 4, the FA Cup, a deep run in the CL and entertaining, attacking football. It's a lot to ask but it's going to take a lot to convince me that he deserves the full time job.
 

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He should not stay past his interim period.

It's not just about results any more. We need a transformation in the mould of a Klopp, Pep, Poch type regime. I don't think Ole will have the scope to stamp his authority to that effect.

But if he steadies the ship and helps rebuild the confidence of players like Bailly, Pogba, Fred, Lukaku and Rashford then he'll have a hand in a positive future.
Exactly right. He probably has some type of target to aim for and that has to be a top 4 finish. Any cup success would be a big bonus.

But as you quite rightly say, the club needs to be transformed from one of failure to a system that is capable of delivering success over the long term.

I very much doubt that this would be within Ole's capability. That necessities every one at the club all focused on the same outcome.

It requires people with a clear vision and the wherewithal to put the necessary changes into effect.
Best wishes Ole. You are going to need a lot of luck.
 

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I think the very reason we have appointed him is that he'll be under no delusions that he's getting the job permanently, he's shown zero as a coach to suggest he's good enough to manage in the PL at all, let alone at United. Appointing him as he's an old legend and can just lift the spirits is his only real task, top 4 is gone unless one of Spurs or Chelsea completely colapse. Ole knows his role IMO and like the great super sub he was, he'll play it with no fuss and then go back to Molde at the end of the season when we appoint a top manager.
 

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It depends on how our club transform under him. People will always want a bigger name as the manager, but we dont need that if Ole is the right fit for our club. Time will tell.
 

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If he proves people right about Mourinho draining the life out of everybody, and actually gets this squad fired up and united then anything can happen. He doesn't have to win CL or get top 4 to stay as long as we get close enough, and as long we can see something is working correctly. Not only the football is wrong at this club, and if things just works with Ole as boss, then we might think about building on that instead of starting from scratch. Nothing to have high hopes about, it's just an interim appointment, but if it happens then amazing.
 

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Bring joy back watching United play and improve team performances over the next 6 Months. Getting a European place is a massive stretch for any manager as is winning the Champions League. FA Cup would be our best chance of a trophy if we get some good fortune in draws.

If the new people (DoF) think Ole and his team are working well then why change a winning and successful team?
 

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He needs a flying start to have any chance, which is not unlikely at all considering our fixture list the next fext weeks. If we manage to knock out PSG, come close to the 4th place, and there is clear improvements in the style of play then why should we bring in Pochettino? Because he is a proven winner?
 

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Not even a discussion to be had after we finish 9th this season and ed starts playing managerial hook a duck once again!
 

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Would he even want to stay. Before a ball has been kicked he knows he's not wanted long term. The club has clearly set out their plan, if Ole stays beyond the 6 months then once again the club aren't sticking to their plan, and shows that Woodward has to go because none of his plans ever work.
 

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If he makes us Manchester United again, has us looking forward to games and not dreading them.
 

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Can't base it on just results. You're telling me if we win the CL he stays but if we lose to a last minute goal in the final he should leave? Or if we play great but miss out on the top four by 1 point he should go?

If he has us playing amazing football with a clear philosophy that the fans and players are both happy with then he should stay. It's silly and close minded to make up your mind from now and say there is nothing he can do. At least give the guy a chance.
 
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I know its sounds nuts, but winning the CL isn't enough - It might be enough if we actually play really well in that run but not a lucky win. Di Mateo won the CL, but in a very lucky way and Chelsea gave him a longer contract only to sack him in the following season.
 

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I don't think that winning UCL or getting top 4 is required. UCL is incredibly hard to win (SAF won it twice in 20 or so attempts), while we are 11 points behind the fourth place.

It is quite easy to see if progress is happening or not. If we play good attacking football and it seems that we are going in the right direction, I am all for continuing. Look at Klopp and Liverpool, they didn't finish in top 4 in his first 2 seasons there but it was clear that he is doing a good job. Look at us last year, we finished second, but it was clear that Mourinho cannot send us forward.

TLDT, look at football, not on a table to make the big decision.
 

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Top 4, attractive football and a good run in the FA Cup or Champions League.
 

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I don't agree that there is nothing he can do to secure the job. This absolutely is an audition and should be treated as such. That said, it would take a sustained upturn in form for him to have any chance at all. If we play good football, finish top 4 and get past PSG, then he will definitely be a consideration for the job
 

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I don't agree that there is nothing he can do to secure the job. This absolutely is an audition and should be treated as such. That said, it would take a sustained upturn in form for him to have any chance at all. If we play good football, finish top 4 and get past PSG, then he will definitely be a consideration for the job
If its true the club want Poch then it clearly isn't an audition.
 

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They want Poch, but if Ole is a roaring success he'll be very much in the frame.
You would think they would be busy wrapping up the deal for Poch and the new DOF before Ole would have a chance to prove to be a success.
 

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Just wondering if there are any scenarios that would convince us fans that Ole should be given a long term contract in the summer?

If he makes top four?
Top three?
Wins the CL?
FA Cup?

Or should it be thank you but goodbye, no matter what happens?
Di Matteo won the CL. Well, if he manage to bring us to CL Semi, then he certainly deserve a formal interview like others. As whether he is good enough from a medium term perspective, I don't think so. He lacks "successful" experience at the top league, and the experience in managing all the ups and downs of the business.
 

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You would think they would be busy wrapping up the deal for Poch and the new DOF before Ole would have a chance to prove to be a success.
If Ole takes his 5th league-win in a row against Tottenham in mid-January, I don't think a lot on here will be calling for Pochettino.
 

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I wouldn't put down an achievement as that very much depends on what others do and an element of chance. For me it would be all about the performances, tactics and the form of individual players.

No one can outmanage a fluke goal or a bad injury list but if the players are consistantly closer to their potential and the tactics/identity are there then he could deserve the seat.

Very unlikely in my opinion, but hopefully it can be the springboard to better things over the next few years in a more challenging league, with the chance of returning.
 

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There are few conditions too meet:

1. Top 4 finish, and
2. Good cup run, and
3. We fail to get any good manager this summer
 

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If Ole takes his 5th league-win in a row against Tottenham in mid-January, I don't think a lot on here will be calling for Pochettino.
Well thank goodness the Caf is not running the club.
 

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You can't compare what Poch has been doing for years with 5 months of work. Chelsea made that mistake with Di Matteo.

Saying that I hope Ole can stay on at United in some capacity if he does well.
This is the most logical comment!
 

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He won't be staying regardless. Molde have already confirmed he's going back .
 

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Our manager recruitment has been horrendous in the last 6 years. We have done the fairy tale story twice. Once with Moyes where student becomes teach and also with Gaal/Giggs where experience fierce man trains recently retired legend to get him ready for when he takes over. We have also done the story of a huge disaster and mega superstar takes over to fix all issues and bring success. I am actually sick of stories now so the board really need to step up and take there time and make logical conclusions. Ole being caretaker manager for me is a great thing. He knows the club inside out, despite a terrible time at Cardiff, he has experience and would of learnt from that bad ones. His style of play is meant to be ambitious and attacking, with high pressure. So overall a great guy to help us build back some dignity over 5 months. If he finishes 4th, which I think he will, and gets far in the champions league, let us say Semis, this is still not enough for me. We just end up building another story where we have been screwed before. There is huge risk in him continuing, there is a lot of emotions and adrenaline going on now and unless he does something absolutely outstanding like wins the league and champions league and scores 100 goals, he should not be permanent. The board need to eliminate as much risk as possible with a tried and tested manager with great modern standings (unlike jose). Someone who fits the United ethos (unlike jose). Now I don't expect to win the league for 3 years, Poch or whoever will need a few windows to get his team but I feel more confident doing research on a new manager than going with another fairy tale story with a terrible ending.
 

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If he can turn the supposed "average" group of players into a cohesive unit, playing winning attacking football, and convert Lukaku into a good striker at least (if not a complete overall player), besides winning the CL and getting into Top 4 at least. And integrate some of the more talented youngsters like Greenwood, Chong and Gomes into the first team, even just as late substitute. Other than that, it might be too early for him for the permanent job.
 

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Outclassing European giants and City in the reverse fixture playing fluid good football and finishing strongly. It actually should take less but wouldn’t want to take that risk.
 

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Just wondering if there are any scenarios that would convince us fans that Ole should be given a long term contract in the summer?

If he makes top four?
Top three?
Wins the CL?
FA Cup?

Or should it be thank you but goodbye, no matter what happens?
It's going to be very difficult for him to do that, but not impossible. It will as much depend on United putting feelers out for the preferred choices and getting rebuffed, as much what Ole does.

The position in the league is somewhat irrelevant as we can get the results and still not get top four, but it would be making Manchester United look like United again. It would be establishing a clear style of play that both wins, gets the best out of our top players, and allows our younger talents to shine and develop. It would be succeeding in the big games against the big sides, domestically and in Europe. it would be about getting the fans excited for match day. It would be about having a clearly harmonious dressing room where he both commands and earns respect.

He could have an excellent half season and still it would be understandable to move him on. Sentiment shouldn't play a role.

He's also stepping into a role where it could go wrong very quickly, so let's just see. Hopefully we can enjoy the journey.
 

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Maintain that impossible 2.5 points per game average or whatever is required to get 4th. Play smashing football. Win CL or at least get to the Final.

None of these alone is enough.