Ah so its not about how many goals his scores to help the team, but more about how he scores those goals. Gotcha. We have Jesse LinGod for the worldies. You must've rated Henry over RVN
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Now i've seen it all!
How is he going to get space to run on the last defenders shoulders when nearly all teams park the bus against us ?
The point is Everton get loads of space for him to run the channels in. In United, or any big club, if you're not good enough in tight situations or able to one touch control and pass the ball, you're toasted. Teams defend against the bug guns by 10 players behind the ball and the spaces are usually congested in these games for him to run in free space and score like he was doing with Everton. Watch his goals for Everton. Notice how much space they got in most of his goals, you'll never see United having such space for them to play in.
It's all logical his flaws will be more exposed at United because here he's asked to play under tight pressure, keep close control of ball and pass quicker before getting pressed. All these just prove one thing so far, that he hasn't been suited for a step up to a big club if all he can do is run the channels in free space and score taps in. He'll never get that here. Strikers of big clubs now are more about their general play that help their teammates to score and help themselves too. You'll struggle to find as many strikers now in big clubs that are useless under pressure or in tight situations, or are useless in the build up and are just waiting for the chance to score or only good at running in space. The game has moved on from these kind of classic strikers. All strikers of big clubs are good with the ball in their feet and still bang loads too.
It has nothing to do with being a target man too. You have to be able to hold the ball under pressure, keep a close control and pass quickly from first or second touch to keep the fluidity of the attack. Rashford or Martial aren't targetmen but I have seen them control the ball under pressure or in tight situations much better. Against parked buses you need that.
Problem with Lukaku is people say he needs chances, chances for Lukaku are usually taps in, headers in the box or 1v1. For other strikers like Aguero or Kane, almost any ball that falls to them in and around the box is considered a 'chance' for them to score as they have wide arsenal of finishing. Lukaku has deluded people's minds of what chances are.
Since the qualifications for WC 2018 started he's played 19 games in which he notched 22 goals for Belgium NT. Good couple of sub apps and 45s in there, too. The guy is a proven goalscorer but needs proper service. Deserves time to fight back.
Is this a general statement or you just being unhappy about Lukaku receiving stick ?
Well, Martial has as many as him this year, having played less minutes and in a less advanced position and Rashford has two less, but loads of assists as well. Lukaku is a decent poacher, but thats about it, he wont do stuff like Martials goal vs Cardiff or Rashfords assist vs Bournemouth
Vs Newcastle nov 2017
yesterday vs Reading
WTF
Very bulky. Needs to slim down to get back the ability to control his movement.
I really dont see that much of a difference.
Vs Newcastle nov 2017
yesterday vs Reading
WTF
Yeah, it's embarassing. It's not just the criticism, but mostly the name calling that's ridiculous.
Lukaku being out of form doesn’t mean his goal scoring record prior to this season doesn’t count.
How are you preaching about fans criticising their own players ? Shouldn't you be in the Pogba thread slating him ?
The groans the couple of time s he failed to control it were audible on the telly, not good really when someone costing 75 mil can't trap a fecking ball.
If Lukaku, Fellini, Matic, Young and Valencia still starting games for us coming next season then I'll question this club ambitions.
I like big Rom, but
He need to think about his future, and sit with Ole and ask him, what does he need to do to be his number one striker? I think he should start with his body, we do not need his fecking muscle bulk, we are not Stoke ffs.
He need to think about his future, and sit with Ole and ask him, what does he need to do to be his number one striker? I think he should start with his body, we do not need his fecking muscle bulk, we are not Stoke ffs.
Funny that there is no gif of Rashford's fail in his thread. One guy has monopolised agendas.
You mean his slip in the 90th min?
Agreed about that as for Lukaku it’s unbelievable people still rate him, so what if he scores 20 a season he is also a major liability more often mainly because He’s a rubbish footballer and should be sold while he has some value.
Rash fail is something rare. Lukaku on the other hand, its becoming a habit.
You are not comparing their technical abilities aren't you?
3 matches, 3 goals. He needs to keep scoring and the rest will fall in place. He'll still be behind Rashford in the pecking order but he can still come on and make a difference.
Yes, that one. Don't pretend it wouldn't have been posted if it was Lukaku.You mean his slip in the 90th min?
No, it's not. How many times has he poinltessly ran a ball out of play? I'm not berating him for it. It happens.
The way that some posters have it in against players like Lukaku and Matic is just embarrassing.
You're joking?
Still think there are no issues with him?
Would have layed it off for Sanchez if he got a control of the ball too. Service is a one way street with certain poachers. We need our central striker to be able to facilitate the forward line. Lukaku can't even facilitate himself without getting the ball stuck
He's incredibly shit at football, and I mean incredibly. Not even Heskey class. He can't control a ball, his footballing brain is poor, he can't make a decent pass, he isn't a target. He is a poacher, he can score that's no doubt about it. But it's often against Reading, Newcastle and Malta. And often not match winning goals. How anyone who is watching football regularly can't see this, I can't understand. He can be our Chicharito but that's about it. Is he going to be our main striker in a Champions League final against Juventus or PSG? Hell no.
I'm sorry but did you even watch RVN? He was capable of producing moments of magic Lukaku couldn't even dream of. And yes the manner of goals is important, against big teams and in tight games you are not always going to get tap ins, you have to produce something out of nothing, something that RVN was more than capable of.
I think it’s not about how he scores but how the guy plays. His overall play isn’t going to help the team, because we are currently playing in a style that won’t suit him.
Yes he can score hat trick but what’s the point scoring hattrick if he keeps slowing down our attack, if he can’t hold the ball and lose it 5 times or more and we conceded those 5 goals and lost 5-3 thanks to his ball control.
RVN scores so many winning goals, and goals against the big teams. Lukuku is a flat track bully.
His the 5th top goal scorer in the Champions League with 56 goals in 73 games, a ratio of 0.77 per game.
To compare one of the great strikers with Lukuku is beyond a joke. RVN had composure and a great touch - things Lukuku can only dream of.
No amount of goals he scores can convince me he's good for us. Like Benteke, he's our expensive mistake and should be rectified as quick as possible. Big clubs need great strikers, reason why Bayern upgraded Mandzukic with Levandowsky, or Juve replaced Morata with Huguain.
The goals Lukaku scores can be replaced with a better striker who can offer both goals and great performances. We're the biggest club in the world, we don't have to suffer watching this guy ruining our play week in week out.
He cannot do that. We'd all love him to score hat tricks while slowing our attacks
How many times did Lukaku scored a hat trick in his career? Or simply how many times he scored a "waouuh" goal?
His brain tells him he can pull off these skills and quick turns and his feet are always like "No chance mate."
In fairness, he got a shot away straight after.
You should post a GIF of him being our top scorer. Now, that's funny.
Or his 109 goals he's scored in the PL by the age of 25.
So you think he’s good enough?
How many of those goals were actually scored against a decent side?
That is just a flat out lie, We aren't in the 90s anymore, mid table teams are now playing pressing and attacking football. And this idea that he struggles against most teams because of his touch and technical play falls completely on its arse when actually scrutinized. Lukaku makes easy work of lesser opposition, these so called teams that park the bus against big clubs get destroyed by Lukaku on a regular basis. If anything his performance against big teams is what is lacking, not him playing against lesser opposition.
It's pretty obvious you've gone off the deep end on Lukaku when you are making points that go completely against reality. Lukaku has scored 34 goals against lesser opposition for us in his time here, and a solitary 1 goal against top opposition (2 if you count Real Madrid in the super cup) which was against Chelsea. The exact same thing happened at Everton where his big game record was shoddy.
Lukaku does not struggle against parked buses or lesser teams. Those are his speciality. This idea that he's a barely serviceable footballer with nothing going for him is nonsensical, and it's obviously based on the short term ism of his bad season. Last season he was one of our better players and looked to be improving the technical aspects, and he has been improving season upon season since his Everton days. If you want some 'Lukaku chances' then have a look at what he did against Man City, Bournemouth or Chelsea in his last season for Everton.
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