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He's no Bilal Ilyas Jhandir
That makes me doubt whether it was correct or not.Even Gerrard says it was correct. Harsh but correct.
That makes me doubt whether it was correct or not.Even Gerrard says it was correct. Harsh but correct.
Which is why you don't "jump like that PSG kid"...No sane person would take the full force of the ball direct face to face..most people instinct is to turn their back to try to minimise the pain. You can see those freekick walls covering their manhood with their hands. Would you give a penalty if one hit the wall and their hand? Also good luck try jumping like that PSG kid with your elbows tuck in.
Not sure that's right. If that's true then the attacker can deliberately kick the ball at a defender's hand to buy a penalty.All players better get used to doing that. Per the ex ref Peter something on BT sport post match, as of June 1, all handballs will be a foul regardless of intentional or not. They will also not award any goal that touched a hand regardless of intent.
I don't understand what's harsh about it? This is as blatant as day...I still think it was incredibly harsh. We would be rioting if the shoe was on the other foot. But feck them we'll take it!
Cluckenburg is a cnut, but he summarized it perfectly there. Its a one hundred percent pen according to the rules, then you can have opinions if the rules are adequate/correct or not, which is a completely different discussion.Even Clattenburg said that for him it wasn't a penalty, but under the current rules it is a penalty. Like the referee was right, but the rule is stupid.
Everything looks worse in slow-mo. In real time the ball was kicked so hard and so close that he barely had time to react. I can see why it was given but I personally think it was incredible harsh.I don't understand what's harsh about it? This is as blatant as day...
He's looking at the ball until after Dalot hits it, then turns his back and lifts his arm up to try to block it.I don't understand what's harsh about it? This is as blatant as day...
You don't get it. It is not a matter of not having enough time to react, the man put his arm out there to block the shot. To make himself biggerEverything looks worse in slow-mo. In real time the ball was kicked so hard and so close that he barely had time to react. I can see why it was given but I personally think it was incredible harsh.
This. Okay so if the ball was clearly going a mile above the bar, and the defender just caught the ball with his hands. Would that be okay? Cos it wasn't going in? Stupid, bizarre logic.Tuchel’s point about the shot being off target is nonsense. It doesn’t matter where the ball was going, his player handled it. The only issue is intent.
He had time to put his body in that position which required his arm to be out. Don't do something that leaves a high chance of it striking an outstretched arm if it's not possible otherwise.Everything looks worse in slow-mo. In real time the ball was kicked so hard and so close that he barely had time to react. I can see why it was given but I personally think it was incredible harsh.
Yes, I got the impression that Smalling had the thought, "they're using VAR," in his head. Certainly I never shouted, "stop doing that," at him, last night.Noticed Smalling faced up to players with his arms behind his back
That's not quite true - slow motion isn't supposed to be used to look at how hard a challenge is for example or in deciding if a handball was unavoidable (in the sense that the ball was too close to avoid), full speed is used for that. Slow motion can however used for factual decisions like "inside the area," "was that his hand," and indeed, "did he turn/move/make himself big," which directly relate to whether the handball was unavoidable.the thing is, penalty decisions on VAR are *supposed* to not be slowed down for this very reason
But why do you think it's harsh? That's what I don't understand? Harsh because it never would have been caught without VAR? Harsh because it was the end of the game? Harsh because the ball was going over the net? It may have happened so fast that it would be hard to catch in real time, but that doesn't change the fact that it was a blatant penalty. You can't jump, turn your back and stick your arms out and then say "it wasn't deliberate". I've heard people argue "it's impossible to jump like that and not stick your arm out". Ok...then don't jump like thatEverything looks worse in slow-mo. In real time the ball was kicked so hard and so close that he barely had time to react. I can see why it was given but I personally think it was incredible harsh.
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It was Peter Walton. I just had a rewatch of one of the segments where he mentions they will take into consideration a player has a natural silhouette and that is what they will judge it on. Having trouble finding the more detailed video but it was BT Sport post match with Rio, knob head 1 and knob head 2.Not sure that's right. If that's true then the attacker can deliberately kick the ball at a defender's hand to buy a penalty.
Yeah that was a big tell for me too. The fact that he didn't make any show of protest was significant.When the camera cuts to Kimpembe at 1:35 while the ref is reviewing it, it looks like he knows.
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Then he puts his head in his hands when it’s given. If you believe you’ve been robbed like that, you’re gonna go full on Drogba.
PSG as a whole have taken it much better than you’d expect. Buffon very different to last year!
Completely agree with this. He's actually looking at the ball the whole time and jumps and sticks his arm out to block it. His lack of complaint is most tellingHe's looking at the ball until after Dalot hits it, then turns his back and lifts his arm up to try to block it.
It's handball and it's a penalty. It's pretty blatant actually.
This. He knew what he was doing turning his arm towards the flight of the ball. Clear penalty.It was a pen.
It's a "dark football art/skill" imo, sort of -- to widen your block cover by flailing your arms and turning your whole body but you do so while acting as if you're like don't want the ball to hit your face, feigning innocence basically. Poor innocent acting when the ref viewed the VAR though and afterwards during the protest. Kimpembe knows what he's doing.
VAR is destroying this art and for the better.
It was a pen.
Or you know you have to raise your arms out wide when jumping to gain leverage? Reminds of that clip of Duncan Ferguson when he was booked for having his arms out and mocked the ref by bouncing around like a pogo stick!It was a pen.
It's a "dark football art/skill" imo, sort of -- to widen your block cover by flailing your arms and turning your whole body but you do so while acting as if you're like don't want the ball to hit your face, feigning innocence basically. Poor innocent acting when the ref viewed the VAR though and afterwards during the protest. Kimpembe knows what he's doing.
VAR is destroying this art and for the better.
It was a pen.