Pogba Future

Would you accept Dybala and Sandro for Pogba?


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I hear lots of us keeps mentioning Real can't afford him but let's not forget they have players that they can sell to generate funds.

To be honest i'm not fussed if he goes or not, Pogba is far too inconsistent to be that player we rely on next season.

I'd happy to accept 150m+ for him
 

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Out of curiosity, would you sell Pogba to Real if we get 150 mill pounds for him? We will loose the only proper world class outfield player in our squad, but get more freedom to play 4231 rather than 433. I think it will come to a point where Pogba has to be sold anyways, as I can't see him signing a new contract with us. Pogba to Real will probably be a transfer saga every single transfer window, similar to the De Gea history.
 

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How many of you guys would accept a straight swap with Varane?
 

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just watching real Madrid, and it is shocking the way they are treating bale. even if pogba doesn't want to leave, I think we should try to get bale, obviously for the right price only. the fans would be way better to him here and I think he could still have a big impact on games with more confidence and not as much pressure.
 

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There is a player there, no doubt. His biggest problem is consistency. If Pogba had Roy keanes will and desire, he would be some player.

Not sure really. If someone threw 150+ million at us, i would take it. Could regret it though.
 

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You must admit the initial 2 week buzz before we realize they're past it is almost worth it. We've got Schweinsteiger! We've got Sanchez! And then we can all get on with doing what we love doing most: whining like a savage pack of unpleasable hyenas.
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just watching real Madrid, and it is shocking the way they are treating bale. even if pogba doesn't want to leave, I think we should try to get bale, obviously for the right price only. the fans would be way better to him here and I think he could still have a big impact on games with more confidence and not as much pressure.
Bale is more often injured than not. Bale gets treated that way because the Madrid fans know they can do better for the money they are paying him. If he comes here he will be falcao 2.0

Madrid screwed up big time by not selling him last season when he still had value in the market, now good luck selling him on those wages.

If Pogba head is turned then any offer above 150m should be considered.
 

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just watching real Madrid, and it is shocking the way they are treating bale. even if pogba doesn't want to leave, I think we should try to get bale, obviously for the right price only. the fans would be way better to him here and I think he could still have a big impact on games with more confidence and not as much pressure.
If we are unable to sign Sancho this season then I don't mind Bale coming here if he agrees to lower his wages along with a loan agreement with Real similar to James Rodriguez's Bayern Munich deal . But I doubt Bale would agree to lower his wages nor Real entertain us for this deal if we are not negotiating for Pogba with them .
 

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He's not sauntered around though has he. Nothing was wrong with his effort against Wolves. The stats show he was the most creative player yet again, and his running stats are no lower than anybody else.
Yeah, he has. Ive been watching him. And hes been jogging around making the bare minimum of effort. Why do you think hes getting the stick? We all know hes world class, the problem is he only turns it on when he wants to. Hes played great since Jose left now hes dropping back into the 'cant really be bothered' attitude he had when jose benched him. The stats flatter to deceive as they always do, watch him during a game youll see what we are all talking about.
 

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Let's swap our most creative player for a centre back. What could possibly go wrong?
We bring in a much needed center back and replace Pogba with a cheaper alternative who won't have as high a benchmark of consistency to beat set by his predecessor.
 

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Bale is more often injured than not. Bale gets treated that way because the Madrid fans know they can do better for the money they are paying him. If he comes here he will be falcao 2.0

Madrid screwed up big time by not selling him last season when he still had value in the market, now good luck selling him on those wages.

If Pogba head is turned then any offer above 150m should be considered.
I mainly agree, bale is not in great form but if he could be signed for a reasonable deal then he would be worth a shot I think if sancho couldn't be signed. a bit of confidence can sometimes do wonders for players with talent like bale.
but feck the Madrid fans, we don't boo Sanchez.
 

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If we are unable to sign Sancho this season then I don't mind Bale coming here if he agrees to lower his wages along with a loan agreement with Real similar to James Rodriguez's Bayern Munich deal . But I doubt Bale would agree to lower his wages nor Real entertain us for this deal if we are not negotiating for Pogba with them .
yes I agree
 

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This is all a direct result of that geriatric fraud Sanchez. Woodward is to blame for having no real vision or plan in place. Every other top club can see and avoid this kind of dressing room unsettling. But Woordward the prized plant pot went right in and stuck his thick and ignorant oar in. All because City wanted him, so that's who we scout and want.
Get rid of Sanchez. Relegate Woodward away from the footballing squad. Get some proper minds in.
 

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If we are unable to sign Sancho this season then I don't mind Bale coming here if he agrees to lower his wages along with a loan agreement with Real similar to James Rodriguez's Bayern Munich deal . But I doubt Bale would agree to lower his wages nor Real entertain us for this deal if we are not negotiating for Pogba with them .
What is wrong with you? We're struggling to get rid of Sanchez who has got massive wages. Why would we add another injury prone player whose on the down? Bale is a no for me and I hope that's what Ole thinks as well.
 

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What is wrong with you? We're struggling to get rid of Sanchez who has got massive wages. Why would we add another injury prone player whose on the down? Bale is a no for me and I hope that's what Ole thinks as well.
Relax this is just my view and I understand Sanchez issues . But if we are unable to sign our first choice target of Sancho then getting Bale on a loan with lower wages while waiting to get Sancho later isn't the end of the world . Bale has his problems but he is still quite talented and is definitely better than Sanchez . Also he himself will have a point to prove and he still has moments and experience which can help our squad .
 

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Relax this is just my view and I understand Sanchez issues . But if we are unable to sign our first choice target of Sancho then getting Bale on a loan with lower wages while waiting to get Sancho later isn't the end of the world . Bale has his problems but he is still quite talented and is definitely better than Sanchez . Also he himself will have a point to prove and he still has moments and experience which can help our squad .
Bale has won 4 Champions League titles along with every title that's there to win at Real. Yes, he would bring along his leadership and winning mentality which we've lacked since SAF left. But he won't come cheap. He'll cost around 60 odd million which isn't really worth it for someone whose 29. I mean if it was Ronaldo at the same age at 80m, you know he'll provide you with 4 to 5 years at the highest level but I would say no for Bale. Sancho won't come this season and I feel we should consider other options, Pepe isn't a bad shot for 40m. He's quick and plays as a RW and provides great width. Has had a good season at Lille this year. Also to consider are Douglas Costa and Joao Felix if we are going younger.
 

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How many of you guys would accept a straight swap with Varane?
That is a terrible deal. Swapping in a very good midfielder for a very good defender is never good. We should just take 150m to be honest. Would personally add an extra 15 because I hate Madrid. I also think varane is overrated but so too is pogba also.
 

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Bale has won 4 Champions League titles along with every title that's there to win at Real. Yes, he would bring along his leadership and winning mentality which we've lacked since SAF left. But he won't come cheap. He'll cost around 60 odd million which isn't really worth it for someone whose 29. I mean if it was Ronaldo at the same age at 80m, you know he'll provide you with 4 to 5 years at the highest level but I would say no for Bale. Sancho won't come this season and I feel we should consider other options, Pepe isn't a bad shot for 40m. He's quick and plays as a RW and provides great width. Has had a good season at Lille this year. Also to consider are Douglas Costa and Joao Felix if we are going younger.
Bale is only acceptable if we get him on a loan similar to the deal which Bayern got for James Rodriguez . No way we or any other European club will spend 60 million pounds to buy him nor offer him similar wages to what he earns at Real right now . Real will have a difficult time getting rid of him considering his wages . He is basically their Sanchez problem whom the Real fans hate .
 

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That is a terrible deal. Swapping in a very good midfielder for a very good defender is never good. We should just take 150m to be honest. Would personally add an extra 15 because I hate Madrid. I also think varane is overrated but so too is pogba also.
Swapping an inconsistent midfielder for a more consistent defender is a very good deal.
 

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Bale is only acceptable if we get him on a loan similar to the deal which Bayern got for James Rodriguez . No way we or any other European club will spend 60 million pounds to buy him nor offer him similar wages to what he earns at Real right now . Real will have a difficult time getting rid of him considering his wages . He is basically their Sanchez problem whom the Real fans hate .
Dude.... you seem to be hung up on Bale. Not sure if you're a Bale fan but Bale is NEVER an acceptable option for us. I mean I would even consider if his form was good but he's been terrible. He was supposed to take over from Ronaldo since Ronaldo was the reason he wasn't delivering upto his potential.

We need to be building for the future and even the loan option is not a good one.

Deadwood need to be gone from United.
 

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I love the guy, he is one of the world's outstanding footballing talents and personalities. I want him at OT.

Those twa*s at PSG have inflated the market with silly Oil money. They are destroying the game, and all can see it. I don't blame Sanchez, Pogs, Mbappe etc. It's these stupid Oil nations desperate to reach a global audience for the Oil rich part of the world. It is sickening.

(sorry.. bit of a rant..)
 

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Dude.... you seem to be hung up on Bale. Not sure if you're a Bale fan but Bale is NEVER an acceptable option for us. I mean I would even consider if his form was good but he's been terrible. He was supposed to take over from Ronaldo since Ronaldo was the reason he wasn't delivering upto his potential.

We need to be building for the future and even the loan option is not a good one.

Deadwood need to be gone from United.
Calm down just offering an opinion on a player doesn't make one a fan . Someone posted something and I replied to it that is all .
 

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Swapping an inconsistent midfielder for a more consistent defender is a very good deal.
My point mainly is I value attackers more highly than defenders. It’s attackers them midfielders then defenders. I’m pretty sure we should be able to find a very good defender for less than 150 million. What we need to get back to the top are forward players. Buying varane won’t solve most of our problems.
 

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Varane is pretty inconsistent for Madrid.
No way near as much as Pogba has been for us.

My point mainly is I value attackers more highly than defenders. It’s attackers them midfielders then defenders. I’m pretty sure we should be able to find a very good defender for less than 150 million. What we need to get back to the top are forward players. Buying varane won’t solve most of our problems.
You can't just say ones an attacker and one's a defender, so the attacker costs more. This logic doesn't apply anymore.

VVD makes as big as impact on Liverpool as Suarez or Torres did.
 

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You can't just offer a swap deal for someone like Varane that's a ridiculous offer. Pogba has an abundance of commercial value, he's also someone who can attract other top class players to the club when we are in clear need of quality.

If we had a footballing identity like when Sir Alex was at the helm, then losing Pogba would be viable because you can integrate others into a system or get different types of players to diversify the midfield position.

The problem we have is we don't play well as a team, the football is lethargic and disjointed so losing Pogba when we are so reliant on his intuitive contribution would be catastrophic. Looking at what Klopp has done with Coutinho, because he has a philosophy he's used the same system, implemented a different player (Mane) but with effective coaching he's become better than Coutinho when he was at Lpool.

Conclusively, they have become a better team overall, the same cannot be said for us. We need to bring balance to the midfield and have players that naturally compliment each other, if we had one quality player either side of Pogba he will have more space to exploit because the opposition cannot overcompensate marking him.

You mark Pogba and Herrera / Matic become passengers. Yet we've got people on her willing to give up an organ for Ander to stay :nono:. It's not a coincidence we have struggled in games due to Pogba loss of form, we are too reliant on his influence.
 
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No way near as much as Pogba has been for us.
Can't really say how much as I naturally don't watch them every game. But, his form is very up and down. Madrid fans aren't thrilled with his consistency either.

But, main point and objectively Varane transfer value is around 100 million and you wouldn't sell Pogba for anything less then 150 million. Doing a straight swap doesn't make sense as it doesn't reflect their current market value.

For me, anything below Varane and 50 million would be just daft business. Even then, there should be a plan for those 50 million to make the whole deal worthwile (e.g. secure Eriksen)
 
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Can't really say how much as I naturally don't watch them every game. But, his form is very up and down. Madrid fans aren't thrilled with his consistency either.

But, main point and objectively Varane transfer value is around 100 million and you wouldn't sell Pogba for anything less then 150 million. Doing a straight swap doesn't make sense as it doesn't reflect their current market value.

For me, anything below Varane and 50 million would be just daft business. Even then, there should be a plan for those 50 million to make the whole deal worthwile (e.g. secure Eriksen)
Since when was Pogba's market value 150m? He wasn't deemed worth 90m by Real when we bought him, and going by reports they don't want to pay those sorts of figures for him now. No one does.
 

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Yeah, he has. Ive been watching him. And hes been jogging around making the bare minimum of effort. Why do you think hes getting the stick? We all know hes world class, the problem is he only turns it on when he wants to. Hes played great since Jose left now hes dropping back into the 'cant really be bothered' attitude he had when jose benched him. The stats flatter to deceive as they always do, watch him during a game youll see what we are all talking about.
Don’t agree at all. While he might not run around the pitch like Kante he’s certainly not lazy either.

people see what they want to see. I personally think the midfield of Matic/Herrera have been awful and not getting the ball far enough forward for our attackers to effect things.

Ole has had to drop pogba deeper and left the striker isolated, our wide men haven’t been good recently either.

Pogba is better at attacking than defending we know that. it’s like sarri expecting kante to be a good box to box, he looks average.
 

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Since when was Pogba's market value 150m? He wasn't deemed worth 90m by Real when we bought him, and going by reports they don't want to pay those sorts of figures for him now. No one does.
It happened somewhere between 2016 - 2019.

If that royalty from Madrid really insist on specific time I would point at the moment when they asked 70 million for bloody Morata.
 

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Since when was Pogba's market value 150m?
It isn't objectively speaking. Transfermarkt, to make the obvious reference, values him at €90m.

For comparison, they have both De Bruyne and Hazard at 150.

End of the day, though, we're not obliged to let him go at market price. In terms of his contract situation, our cards are decent, I suppose. But I can't see Madrid paying 150m for him no matter what, so there's that.