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I don’t believe he is good enough for Bayern but we’ll find out if he goes thereSo he's good enough for Bayern, but not for us, got it.
I don’t believe he is good enough for Bayern but we’ll find out if he goes thereSo he's good enough for Bayern, but not for us, got it.
This sums up the situation although personally we should offload Lukaku and bring in another striker who has better movement, link up play and all round game.When you have a player like Rashford, there is absolutely no reason to buy someone like Werner. I'l list some of the reasons below:
1) Rashford is as good a striker, if not better, than Werner:
If you want to talk about Werner of the 16/17 season, when he scored 21 goals (7 assists) in 31 matches, then I can agree that Werner is better than Rashford. If you look at Werner since that season, he has scored just 27 goals in 58 games (13 assists), that Werner is no better than the current Rashford we have, who has shown tremendous potential since Ole has come in (along with his first season under LvG). Had Werner continued his goalscoring form from the 16/17 season onwards, I would consider him being above Rashford, but, given how his form has dropped in the last two seasons (not only for RB Leipzeg but also for Germany) I wouldn't make that same assessment now.
2) Werner is not effective as a winger:
Some people here have compared Werner to Lingard, saying he can play as an effective winger for us. I don't think he is a world class winger and if he is played there he will be nothing more than a stop-gap solution that won't improve the first team by a lot, atleast not enough to make us firm title contendors. We should be looking for more natural wingers for the RW/LW position if we really want to make an impact next season, not people like Werner whose natural position isn't there.
3) We already have a great backup striker in either Lukaku or Rashford:
Depending on your preference, either Lukaku or Rashford will be the starting striker leaving the other on the bench. With that, we have two very good strikers already in the squad and if you want to play a mostly 1 striker formation, you don't need more than that. Werner won't be any better than either of them so it would be a waste of financies that can be used elsewhere.
Frankly, I think the striker position is the least of problems for United looking towards next season. Therefore, using 30-40 mil of our financies for a player of that position would be a waste.
This! We've enough forwards with poor technical ability in the most important part of the pitch.Would much rather have Jovic, he would bring something different.
Not a wingerWhat's he like on the wing?
That's a shame. Oh well.Not a winger
Never stopped us before...Not a winger
Bayern are in need of a striker given Lewandowski's age and that they don't have a natural replacement (Gnabry is more stop-gap). We have two very good strikers so there is no need for another.So he's good enough for Bayern, but not for us, got it.
It better nowNever stopped us before...
Rashford and Martial will get better if they are played centrally and coached properly. We don't have unlimited funds to slightly improve positions that are well stocked. Unless it's an unmissable player it seems a waste of money to me. We need a 2012 van Persie if we're buying a striker, not another young forward who is similar in style and performance to our other forwards.If you are already good, there is always the aim to be better. We lost that over the past 5 years
That was not the point of my post thoughRashford and Martial will get better if they are played centrally and coached properly. We don't have unlimited funds to slightly improve positions that are well stocked. Unless it's an unmissable player it seems a waste of money to me. We need a 2012 van Persie if we're buying a striker, not another young forward who is similar in style and performance to our other forwards.
What did you mean then?That was not the point of my post though
He can do the defensive work of a winger but on offense he's a pure striker. Will run behind defenses so he needs a RB that can occupy the flank on his own.What's he like on the wing?
40m euros is the number most often quoted. If there is a bidding war, I can see it going higherHow much would he cost? If it’s about 20-25m, why not? Extra competition for places aren’t bad and will keep every player’s toes up
If Kovac will play his favourite system 3-5-2 next season then Werner to Bayern Munich would make sense......but 4-2-3-1 isn't the right system for him especially at Bayern Munich.Bayern are in need of a striker given Lewandowski's age and that they don't have a natural replacement (Gnabry is more stop-gap). We have two very good strikers so there is no need for another.
I think a forward line of him, Gnabry, Coman would be quite impressive with quick passing and changing of positions. His early form for Germany did come in a similar formation, though I do agree that he would be better in a 3-5-2 with him and Gnabry as the forwards.If Kovac will play his favourite system 3-5-2 next season then Werner to Bayern Munich would make sense......but 4-2-3-1 isn't the right system for him especially at Bayern Munich.