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Woodward can't get much right.
Unfortunately unless the club starts making big losses and the Glazers end up selling it, I don't see any way we can get rid of Woodward and things will more than likely remain the same.Been saying this the last few years, thread I made last summer on Ed got closed. But he has 0 nuance on how to get us to be a top club again, he's content with us being 'thereabouts' but that's not good enough. Under Ed I genuinely don't see a title challenge in the next 5 years, which is shocking because it's been 7 years since we last challenged. This is essentially how Liverpool became Liverpool in the league.
Woodward is just an extension of the Glazers. Getting rid of one without the other still means the foundations are rotting with infestation.Unfortunately unless the club starts making big losses and the Glazers end up selling it, I don't see any way we can get rid of Woodward and things will more than likely remain the same.
Yeah they've taken something like $1b out of the club over the last 15 years through debt payments and dividends, which is shocking in an time where oil clubs have been spending huge amounts.Woodward is just an extension of the Glazers. Getting rid of one without the other still means the foundations are rotting with infestation.
Does anyone know how much debt we have left to pay off? Or just a brief summary of how much we annually pay off at the moment?Yeah they've taken something like $1b out of the club over the last 15 years through debt payments and dividends, which is shocking in an time where oil clubs have been spending huge amounts.
The borrowings of the 20-times champions remain at £487m despite the American family having purchased United in 2005 for a debt of £525m. This means that less than £3m a year has been paid off since, with the cost of serving the debt amounting to £24m a year.
It's a repeat of what happened to us after Matt Busby retired. It took 26 years to win another title. We did not learn from our own history despite all the promises from Fergie and Gill that a plan was in place for the succession.Been saying this the last few years, thread I made last summer on Ed got closed. But he has 0 nuance on how to get us to be a top club again, he's content with us being 'thereabouts' but that's not good enough. Under Ed I genuinely don't see a title challenge in the next 5 years, which is shocking because it's been 7 years since we last challenged. This is essentially how Liverpool became Liverpool in the league.
Spot on. Woodward going wouldnt make a jot of difference. We need owners with a plan and desire to compete for the top prizesWoodward is just an extension of the Glazers. Getting rid of one without the other still means the foundations are rotting with infestation.
Because Man United are so rich that the CEO can sanction big spending and shift the blame somewhere else. A CEO's job is to set the culture and organise the business, not get a tractor sponsorship.I think it was Ogden who said this on twitter but when you look at how Ajax & United have progressed post Europa League final and the amount of money spent by both clubs, it really makes you wonder how Ed is not under more pressure internally.
They bought the club to maximize commercial revenue. They saw an opportunity to do that and have done it well. There was no plan for what would happen post-Fergie but by them, the revenue streams were established so it didn't really matter.Our owners don’t care about us winning major trophies, being an amazing footballing side and exciting the fans (hallmarks of United signs pre Glazers).
All they care about is cold hard cash.
All you need to know to understand the situation we’re in
At this stage, there does not look like much room for significant growth.They bought the club to maximize commercial revenue. They saw an opportunity to do that and have done it well. There was no plan for what would happen post-Fergie but by them, the revenue streams were established so it didn't really matter.
We needed a top new in demand manager in place and rivals stole the race for them while moronic Woodward arrogance is running us into the ground. I dont blame glazers for providing 400m.Woodward is just an extension of the Glazers. Getting rid of one without the other still means the foundations are rotting with infestation.
Arsenal regularly finished in the top 4 & played much better football. This is heading in the Liverpool direction.This will be the new expensive arsenal if he is in charge any longer.
They were probably hoping for more control over TV rights which would have meant no end to the bastards. If they sell, who would buy? There aren't too many around that could afford it, barring an oil nation.At this stage, there does not look like much room for significant growth.
Match day revenue has plateaued out for a few years.
The recent TV deal saw no growth whatsoever.
Commercial has matured. Maybe add another rice partner here and there.
Time to sell please.
Profits and revenueIf Woody's performance was being judged on how successful the club has been, he'd have been long gone.
So what's his performance being judged on?
Correct.Profits and revenue
Like any CEO, the bottom line. As long as the shareholders are happy, that's his duty done.If Woody's performance was being judged on how successful the club has been, he'd have been long gone.
So what's his performance being judged on?
Commercial revenues have been flat for three years now - market saturation/years of poor performance on the pitch finally catching up with us.At this stage, there does not look like much room for significant growth.
Match day revenue has plateaued out for a few years.
The recent TV deal saw no growth whatsoever.
Commercial has matured. Maybe add another rice partner here and there.
Time to sell please.
Woodward confuses only the credulous.Brace yourself a Woodward transfer briefing will surely be coming soon now . He always has one ready after a big defeat to confuse the fan base .