I know. It goes without saying that we want to lose.
Do we want to lose to City?
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
Feck the top 4 but also feck City and Liverpool. We are united and we should be winning all of our games. I want us to win against City and I don’t care if that means handing the title to Liverpool. We don’t do favours for anyone. That’s how it should be.
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What exactly did playing in this season's CL do for us?
Like it matters? Whether we want to lose or not, we're very likely to lose anyway.
Do we want to lose to City? - Ugh, no!
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I will never understand supporters who want their own team to lose.
I can only guess it means the dislike for the other club is bigger than the love foe your own club.
But maybe I need to be enlightened.
I can only guess it means the dislike for the other club is bigger than the love foe your own club.
But maybe I need to be enlightened.
To be fair, what is he going to say?
This. Can't agree or accept a United loss at all. United above everything else.
They are worried about people taunting them.
Let em score 10, lads! Make it as obvious as possible.
No. I never want United to lose. Even if it hands Liverpool the title. Sure we could get our own back for Gerrard’s back pass but we are not Liverpool. If we deliberately throw this then we are the same as them and I don’t want that.
If beating city means we get top four and results in Liverpool winning the league you have to want that!
Don’t let your hate for Liverpool exceed your love for united. Sure I would hate to see Liverpool get their hands on the PL trophy and the inevitable media wankfest that would follow, but I want to see my team in the champions league!
Don’t let your hate for Liverpool exceed your love for united. Sure I would hate to see Liverpool get their hands on the PL trophy and the inevitable media wankfest that would follow, but I want to see my team in the champions league!
If we make top 4 then it'll be a modest transfer window, if we don't make the top 4 then the board will panic and splash the cash. Add to this that top 4 is not a trophy and 1 season out of top 4 does very little for us. The choice is simple.
The money men have fooled people into thinking top 4 is the holy grail, it isn't. All it does is line thier pockets. 1 season out of top 4, but working on a team structure, vision and plan will see us back at the top.
The money men have fooled people into thinking top 4 is the holy grail, it isn't. All it does is line thier pockets. 1 season out of top 4, but working on a team structure, vision and plan will see us back at the top.
So many of you are saying that missing out on top four doesn’t matter much in the grand scheme of things. And while that might be true for a club as big as United, you’re ignoring the fact that if you were to make it, your new manager who’s also a United legend would’ve done the near impossible of getting you there after being 11 points behind.
And sure, players will always want to play for United, but of course it will be easier to persuade them if you have the CL.
And sure, players will always want to play for United, but of course it will be easier to persuade them if you have the CL.
Stop trying to persuade people
If we beat Everton and City beat Spurs then I'd be OK with a loss. Else, we'll have to win to finish top 4.
I’m notStop trying to persuade people
I just genuinely don’t understand why you wouldn’t want your new manager to have the possible starting point next season.We are fighting 4 the CL, so loosing to do someone a favour is no option!
So true!
I know die hard, matchgoing fans that don’t miss a home or away game that want us to lose the City game.
I think it’s difficult for the out-of-town supporters to grasp. You don’t truly get the Utd/Liverpool rivalry unless you’ve grown up in England, especially in Manchester and the North West.
Aye. I'm obviously not English but I joined the Caf at 15 and have basically received my "United education" on this board - at a time when it was less vanilla too
So true!
I know die hard, matchgoing fans that don’t miss a home or away game that want us to lose the City game.
I think it’s difficult to understand for the non-British supporters to grasp. You don’t truly get the Utd/Liverpool rivalry unless you’ve grown up in England, especially in Manchester and the North West.
For me it's obvious that we should not want Liverpool to win the league no matter what.
I am certainly not going to tell any one how they should feel or if they should wish to win or lose this match. Each to their own.
You can help us by winning and I perfectly understand why it's a no go for you. Or you can help City by losing and then play your thursday nights next season in Ukraine or wherever you end up. Not to mention digging yourself further into this little crisis of yours.
The real question is.. Do you want syphilis or Gonorrhea?
You can help us by winning and I perfectly understand why it's a no go for you. Or you can help City by losing and then play your thursday nights next season in Ukraine or wherever you end up. Not to mention digging yourself further into this little crisis of yours.
The real question is.. Do you want syphilis or Gonorrhea?
Especially not to City. Would it suck to see Liverpool win the league? Yes but it also sucks to lose against City or see them win the league. Let's face it we are in a shitty position and neither City nor Liverpool winning the league will make me personally happy, playing in the CL next season though would be something that would make me happy. That's why I'm going with win all remaining games if we can even do it, no matter who wins the league in the end.
And yes it's probably largely due to me being German and not having annoying Liverpool fans growing up being the main reason why I don't see City winning the league over Liverpool as the lesser evil.
Exactly, if you’ve grown up with the rivalry surrounding you, you’ll know why a lot of us will take the loss against City. Long term, it won’t effect us at all if we lose that game.Aye. I'm obviously not English but I joined the Caf at 15 and have basically received my "United education" on this board - at a time when it was less vanilla too
For me it's obvious that we should not want Liverpool to win the league no matter what.
Should have moved to Liverpool, plenty of United loving kids there.
No, need the points, starting with Everton .
Nah, we have to try to win.
However, as Gary Neville pointed out, of the next three games Everton is the most winnable and Chelsea the most important. So if we had to rotate players for one of those games then the City one might make the most sense. Obviously you still try to win the City game, you just prioritise that Chelsea game because (as people have already said) we have to focus on our own top four ambition first.
If doing so results in a greater chance of City beating Liverpool to the league title then hey ho.
However, as Gary Neville pointed out, of the next three games Everton is the most winnable and Chelsea the most important. So if we had to rotate players for one of those games then the City one might make the most sense. Obviously you still try to win the City game, you just prioritise that Chelsea game because (as people have already said) we have to focus on our own top four ambition first.
If doing so results in a greater chance of City beating Liverpool to the league title then hey ho.
Never want United to lose.
And now that Cardiff have a reason to beat the dirties, us beating City may not have a bearing on the title.
And now that Cardiff have a reason to beat the dirties, us beating City may not have a bearing on the title.
Next season United should just delibertely lose every game to Chelsea Spurs City and Arsenal.
I mean why start at the end if there is already so much help you can give for your dream to come to realisation in the first half of the competition.
Half of the fans here apparently dont have elite club mentality anyways. So why should the team bother at all.
I mean why start at the end if there is already so much help you can give for your dream to come to realisation in the first half of the competition.
Half of the fans here apparently dont have elite club mentality anyways. So why should the team bother at all.
This
The PL title will look after itself;we need to win games for confidence in challenging next season and points to at least try and get 4th
It's not that I want to lose, it just won't hurt as much when we inevitably do. It's not like we have much of a chance anyway.
Didn’t always live in Manc, was born there, did primary school there. Went to secondary school in Warrington. Surrounded by Scousers.
No... care so much about the opposition? The only time I really hate them is the morning of a game against them? Find it weird caring about them at any other time?
I dont mind losing to them if it stops the other lot from winning the league even if it costs us a CL spot.
If we lose to them and miss out on CL only for city to balls it up and liverpool win the league I'm taking a break from the internet
So, we want to lose to our rival and hope they win the league to stop another rival from winning the league and therefore probably miss out on top 4 and a CL spot. Bloody Hell!