Neville: The players who are rotten in the dressing room are all on social media

[automaticflare]

He is a dick iMO generally but he is spot on.

I would actually gladly not buy another player for the next season if we spent it ridding club of everyone who is toxic.

Play the kids and let’s go along for the ride. Then re - enforce them with some leaders or where there are obvious gaps.

I would love someone like Kante

 

[VP89]

So he bottled it basically. he’s leaving it open to interpretation. think he knows he can’t crticisise pogba by name after that as he was the only one who could actually keep the ball.

He defended Pogba before the game kicked off. He was pressed to name Pogba by the presenter and refused.

 

[Water Melon]

Wtf does social media have to do with success on the pitch? We need better coaches, better physios, better analysts, better scouts and could well be better players, but this has got nothing to do with the social media. Posting less on instagram will not improve one's ability to pass, read the game, move with or without ball or make a decision.

 

[Murder on Zidanes Floor]

We always do this. Now Pogba must go. Before him it was Di Maria being called out. Memphis got no patience, Zaha never got a chance.
The few who are in some purpose creative and fun to watch are driven out with pitchforks once the going gets tough.

Yet again sailing under the limelight are the mainstays under this whole era of underachievement. Why are they never the subject of Neville & co's rants? Smalling, Jones, Lingard, Young, Mata should have been moved ages ago.

Pogba didn't play under Moyes or van Gaal, but these experienced professionals who get contract extensions after contract extensions did and still there is someone else to blame.

Because they are low profile, lower paid, lower maintenance squad players.

 

[Igor Drefljak]

Without reading 5 pages of stuff, I was actually having this conversation with an Arsenal fan yesterday.

This is the difference between De Bruyne and Pogba.
We've got one player who keeps his head down, don't really hear a murmur from him (Just like Scholes), does his job and is an exceptional player.
Pogba on the other hand, is all over the media, talks a good game, has the ability of De Bruyne, but just doesn't really cut it

 

[Adam-Utd]

He defended Pogba before the game kicked off. He was pressed to name Pogba by the presenter and refused.

I didn’t see before the game but from the way this thread is going it seems pretty obviously another veiled attempt to blame him again.

I’ve never know redcafe to be such a confused place.

 

[Inigo Montoya]

City has Aguero, Sterling, B.Silva all of them better talented and running even more when the team has the ball. What is stopping Pogba trying a 1-2 with a teammate and trying to get involved more ?
His running even when United have the ball is poor and when the opposition has it, its even worse. What is so special about Pogba that he can get away with it ?

I definitely have a problem against posters who say he was our best player today. How ? He had a couple of decent passes. Lets take Scholes as an example( ofcourse Pogba is nowhere near his level). He always tries to bring others into the game by doing a simple 1-2 passes. What the heck is stopping Pogba from doing anything like that ? Yeah, he only does a couple of passes per game and then becomes our best player ?? Any second division player could have become our best player today.

It’s what Nev said.

Pogba will never ever be the runner you want him to be, why pretend? You either have players around him to do the donkey work or get rid.
He did make the short passes but they were ruined by the likes of Matic,Dalot,Fred. Why single him out? I know he wasn’t great but let’s be real here; at least 6 were shite

 

[Rightnr]

This is such bullshit from Neville yet again. What the feck does being on social media have to do with our shit performances?

Are Young, Jonesy, Smalling, Matic and Drosskaku on social media? Is Ole and his coaching team on social media or is he not at fault for giving people like Jones and Young new contracts (or at least authorising them) and continuing to play them?

Has Pogba made Ole call Rashford 'Rashie' and tolerate Lingard's subpar performances?

It's not just about the players but also the management at every damn level of the club all the way up to those fecking American clowns.

 

[Inigo Montoya]

I didn’t see before the game but from the way this thread is going it seems pretty obviously another veiled attempt to blame him again.

I’ve never know redcafe to be such a confused place.

They were blaming him before the debacle and will after

 

[Ali Dia]

When he plays well we play well but that’s a very patchy thing. His heart isn’t in it for any number of reasons I’m sure. The players are probably embarrassed by the running of the club too and looking at each other’s standards. It’s a big downer. Back to pogba- we can’t be so reliant on a player that wants to be elsewhere but he is of the level of talent we need to improve so it sucks he doesn’t want to be here or make an effort. He definitely shouldn’t be regarded as any kind of a team leader anyway. Why can’t any of the other players step up when he doesn’t? Like they won’t even run anymore. What is this?

 

[Velvet Revolver]

My brother and me just unfollowed all united players on social media. Drop in the ocean but we need to show them that we are fans of the club not mercenaries !

 

[fallengt]

Pogba is such an easy target.
Let's sell Pogba, Lukaku will magically have better touch, Rashford will not have his head to the ground, Martial'll stop posting dick on snapchat and no one, not even bird will dare to shit on Young again

 

[crossy1686]

So he bottled it basically. he’s leaving it open to interpretation. think he knows he can’t crticisise pogba by name after that as he was the only one who could actually keep the ball.

Well no, he said he would name them on Sunday when he did an official analysis of the season, they were just pressing him for a headline unnecessarily

 

[crossy1686]

My brother and me just unfollowed all united players on social media. Drop in the ocean but we need to show them that we are fans of the club not mercenaries !

I've just done the same. Don't need to see them or endorse their clothing lines

 

[VP89]

I didn’t see before the game but from the way this thread is going it seems pretty obviously another veiled attempt to blame him again.

I’ve never know redcafe to be such a confused place.

To blame Pogba? No.

Neville refused to name Pogba. He just said there is "japanese knotweed" in the Manchester United garden and it's affecting the foundations of the house. City players are far better, work twice as hard. Everton worked 4km more than we did today and that we were embarassing. The presenter then said "it's time to name names" and Gary Neville said "I don't need to name names, they're in the newspaper every day".

It's true. And Pogba is part of the problem too. Just sell them all because they are either not good enough or not hard working enough and don't want to be here. It's not about talent alone.

 

[Castia]

Pogba is such an easy target.
Let's sell Pogba, Lukaku will magically have better touch, Rashford will not have his head to the ground, Martial'll stop posting dick on snapchat and no one, not even bird will shit on Young again

It’s not one single individual but a whole bunch of them. From not being good enough to being world class with a shitty attitude there’s problems all over the pitch.

Pogba takes a lot of blame because he’s known as a class player who underperforms constantly. He’s like the central midfield version of Nani.

 

[Amadaeus]

Sell these players and watch how they become fantastic players at other clubs. Neville is just defending his mate Ole without understanding the problem goes much deeper than our players who showed a lot of willingness to perform during the honeymoon period

 

[RedIke]

erm...

Good pull. Forgot about that.

 

[Maticmaker]

Today in the midst of all the gloom, Paul Pogba played one ball in the first half, some 70/80 yards directly into the path of Rashford, who couldn't take it with his left, so tried to hook it with his right... chance missed! After that we had to wait until the 86th minute for anything resembling a 'threat' on the Everton goal.

That one ball was stupendous and if Pogba had 10 other players maybe only half as gifted as he is, but with bags of energy and commitment, around him all playing to support him, doing his grafting willingly and without question, then he might be worth £350,000 a week; however for the rest of this match his contribution was no better (or worse) than most of the others who are on less than half his salary, and these players know his performances are certainly not worth that amount.

The attitude of our players was almost beyond belief, sloppy, no interest, lacking energy (except for McTominay when he came on), is it possible Ole has told most of them their services will not be required next year and that's the reason? I honestly cannot think of any other for such a miserable 'un-United-like' display.

 

[Keefy18]

Because they are low profile, lower paid, lower maintenance squad players.

So we're expecting world class results from a single individual and drag us to league challenges / titles surrounded in your squad level players?

 

[BigWillprunier]

We need this kind of brutal honesty inside the club!

 

[Sparky_Hughes]

There is a core of unmotivated tossers at this club and they need weeding out and binning. 100% effort 100% of the time or feck off elsewhere.

 

[Vadim]

Typical Neville rubbish.

Nah he’s right on this occasion.

 

[ZupZup]

Yeah but it goes beyond that. It's the general mentality of players when they are at the club, and that's why he brought social media into it. Lingard is a cuplrit of this, arguably often distracted by building his own brand and not putting enough attention into his own development. The West Ham bus incident will also never be forgotten, I'm shocked he's still part of our set up to be honest. Running around doesn't get you a place into our squad.

That’s all fine but you are just completely adding your own slant and opinion to things he never said.

 

[Inigo Montoya]

Yeah but it goes beyond that. It's the general mentality of players when they are at the club, and that's why he brought social media into it. Lingard is a cuplrit of this, arguably often distracted by building his own brand and not putting enough attention into his own development. The West Ham bus incident will also never be forgotten, I'm shocked he's still part of our set up to be honest. Running around doesn't get you a place into our squad.

Running around today would have been
a marked improvement on anything I witnessed

 

[VP89]

That’s all fine but you are just completely adding your own slant and opinion to things he never said.

He spoke of mentality and mentioned its the names in newspapers and social media every day. It's not a big jump to know which ones he had in mind.

 

[Grylte]

Typical Neville rubbish.

You really think so?
I agree with every single word he said.

 

[Razvan]

Everyone is on social media, Neville should get with the times.

 

[Romez]

Isn't that what you're doing?

Neville doesn't blame social media. He refused to name names and told the presenter that the bad apples were easy to spot from their social media content. That's all. He's blaming the players themselves.

Don’t think you know what that means if you think I’m doing that.

If he wasn’t blaming social media then he wouldn’t have mentioned it at all.

 

[#07]

We need this kind of brutal honesty inside the club!

The players would get the manager sacked for it. We've seen it multiple times now.

 

[RG 11]

Neville's a bit out of touch with the social media stuff and the whole "back in my day" attitude but he does have a point. If our players showed half as much passion like Neville did while playing, we wouldn't be in such a giant mess.

 

[BigRon1985]

No one would care about the players’ social media activities if they were delivering the goods on the pitch week in week in week out. I would be too embarrassed to post anything for weeks after a performance like today’s.

 

[Gjx]

I took what he said as there are articles/posts about the players on social media every day. I don't think he's having a dig at them because they have an Instagram account.

 

[hobbers]

I took what he said as there are articles/posts about the players on social media every day. I don't think he's having a dig at them because they have an Instagram account.

Yeah hearing the quote this is clearly what he meant.

The players who are facing the fury on social media and from the press. Not the players who are most active on social media.

Although in Lingard's case at least he ticks both boxes.

 

[OohAahMartial]

Think seizing on the social media thing was missing the point. Before he mentioned that he said they were in the newspapers, and that we all know who they are. We can see who are the laziest and most unfocused on the pitch. Pogba, Martial, Lukaku, Matic, being probably the laziest.

 

[Keefy18]

It's a mix of everything in reality.

We've some lazy players and we've some players that are technically dreadful. For a team to be truly great you need to get the balance right and have your technically gifted players in there to win you games and your work horses.

SAF got this right perfectly. His 93-94 side had work horses like Keane and Ince, but brilliance from Cantona.

Our lazy players may have that moment of brilliance, be it a great pass to one of the other less technically gifted players and they fluff their lines.

 

[Welbeckham]

Every club that are currently succeeding also have their players using social media. They just also bother to play football while doing it.

It would be pretty great to have players like Bernardo Silva or Firmino who aside from great technical talent have an incredible work-rate.

 

[Hernandez - BFA]

Fully agree with Neville.

 

[Ekeke]

Japanese knotweed? Extremely racist of Neville to be blaming Kagawa especially when he no longer plays for us

 

[Jacob]

Would pay to see Gary manage United. Mr know-it-all.