Walters_19_MuFc
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Barcelona vs Ajax final
He's absolutely correct.
He's absolutely correct.
If Ajax would be in the PL. They would earn more revenue. So they can keep their biggest talents (and attract better players if needed).
Easily top 4 imo.
He’s not, Ajax’ budget and popularity would have increased tenfold.He's absolutely correct.
Oh right, if you're talking about in the future then probably, you generate some massive talents.
I was more thinking if this Ajax team was just shoved in to the PL for this season, in which case I think they'd definitely be in a battle for top six along with us, Arsenal, United and Chelsea.
Oh right, if you're talking about in the future then probably, you generate some massive talents.
I was more thinking if this Ajax team was just shoved in to the PL for this season, in which case I think they'd definitely be in a battle for top six along with us, Arsenal, United and Chelsea.
Elite teams need to be able to compete on multiple fronts, simple as. Credit to Barcelona (and feck you Real) that they've already won their league, nothing to be done about that.It all comes down to the second leg.
The Newcastle game will take alot out of Liverpool. Barca will play their reserves in their league match before the second leg (having won their league).
The extra rest for Barca players will play a factor at Anfield.
Your right about Ellite teams competing on all fronts, but having a week off to prepare for a big game at this stage of the season must be considered as an advantage.Elite teams need to be able to compete on multiple fronts, simple as. Credit to Barcelona (and feck you Real) that they've already won their league, nothing to be done about that.
It shouldn't be an excuse either. Players should be up for it regardless, it doesn't get better than a return semi-final at Anfield for them. Very much looking forward to it, Wednesday evening can't come soon enough.
Yeah no doubt, Messi hasn't played a full game since April 20th... I was happy they needed to bring him on at HT this weekend.Your right about Ellite teams competing on all fronts, but having a week off to prepare for a big game at this stage of the season must be considered as an advantage.
I would have Liverpool as favourites to progress if that happened. A one goal defeat (if you score) or draw of any kind.Yeah no doubt, Messi hasn't played a full game since April 20th... I was happy they needed to bring him on at HT this weekend.
I'd take a 2-1 defeat or something, a draw would be great and a win is just too much to ask for probably.
It all comes down to the second leg.
The Newcastle game will take alot out of Liverpool. Barca will play their reserves in their league match before the second leg (having won their league).
The extra rest for Barca players will play a factor at Anfield.
Or, of course, they will smash them 1-4 and you can quote me for being a spiteful and jealous Feyenoorder.
I'm sure you'd happily trade the KNVB beker for a spot in the CL final. Hell, not even Feyenoord fans care about the KNVB beker. Honestly though, I think you will destroy Willem 2 and comfortably win the last two league matches. Though Graafschap away is a spicy fixtureSaved for later.
I don't think they will underestimate Spurs, I'd sooner see them underestimate Willem II in the in-between-final while their full focus is on the CL.
I strangely think Ajax will find their Waterloo (is that a saying in English?) against Spurs. They've managed to raise their game to insane levels against very clear favorites twice now and even though they won't really underestimate Spurs, they will still somewhat underestimate Spurs. They're missing their 2 best players, they lost their last league game, Ajax is poised to win the league. The ingredients are all their for Ajax to crash out in a hugely disappointing way.
Or, of course, they will smash them 1-4 and you can quote me for being a spiteful and jealous Feyenoorder.
I'm sure you'd happily trade the KNVB beker for a spot in the CL final. Hell, not even Feyenoord fans care about the KNVB beker. Honestly though, I think you will destroy Willem 2 and comfortably win the last two league matches. Though Graafschap away is a spicy fixture
In the end, I REALLY hope you guys win the CL, it would be awesome for our tiny nation and our shite league.
I'd say it's like a United fan wanting Pool to win the CL or vice versa. And it has little to do with the continent, I'm just a shite fan who is more interested in Dutch football in general than one particular club. I mean, as a kid I chose Feyenoord to be contrary to everyone supporting Ajax and I still enjoy Ajax losing domestically a lot, but in Europe? Meh, it's hard to dislike Ajax for me. Which is something not shared by most Feyenoord supporters. Most of them refuse to even say the word Amsterdam, instead referring to it as " 020" which is their net number. Plenty of burning hatred hereIsn't this kinda like me hoping Arsenal or Chelsea won the CL?
You guys on the continent are far too nice. Need more burning hatred in your lives.
I'd say it's like a United fan wanting Pool to win the CL or vice versa. And it has little to do with the continent, I'm just a shite fan who is more interested in Dutch football in general than one particular club. I mean, as a kid I chose Feyenoord to be contrary to everyone supporting Ajax and I still enjoy Ajax losing domestically a lot, but in Europe? Meh, it's hard to dislike Ajax for me. Which is something not shared by most Feyenoord supporters. Most of them refuse to even say the word Amsterdam, instead referring to it as " 020" which is their net number. Plenty of burning hatred here![]()
I'm sure you'd happily trade the KNVB beker for a spot in the CL final. [...] Honestly though, I think you will destroy Willem 2 and comfortably win the last two league matches. Though Graafschap away is a spicy fixture
In the end, I REALLY hope you guys win the CL, it would be awesome for our tiny nation and our shite league.
Hell, not even Feyenoord fans care about the KNVB beker.
European competition is regarded differently. Unless you play one another, we need each other for the league coefficient and keep qualification spots in any European Leagues.Isn't this kinda like me hoping Arsenal or Chelsea won the CL?
You guys on the continent are far too nice. Need more burning hatred in your lives.
Given that we're missing both Son and Kane for this match I think that, unusually for a home game, we'll sit back and play a counter-attacking style .. which won't suit Ajax very well.
I reckon something like:
———————— Lloris
—— Alderweireld Sanchez Vertonghen
Trippier Sissoko Wanyama Rose
—————— Eriksen - Alli
———————— Moura
Given that we're missing both Son and Kane for this match I think that, unusually for a home game, we'll sit back and play a counter-attacking style .. which won't suit Ajax very well.
Spurs are there for the taking if Ajax play well imo, so hopefully they don't play too pragmatic in order to get a "decent" result away from home, but rather go for the kill right away.
That's what I meant, I hope they stay true to their style and don't change it up just because it's a CL semi-final and the "wise thing to do" or whatever.Sit-back and give Ajax possession on your half and hope for a few chances to be succesful? Yeah, that will end well...Please do!
Expecting Tottenham to go and try to win midfield and play the pressure game too, or they’ll get surgically torn apart time and again if they turtle and play for the counter, soaking up wave after wave of attack.
Ajax is all about “Moar offense” even if you lead 4-0, even if you’re playing “the bestest team ever”, the goal will always be to score as many as possible. Looks like you’re confusing Ajax with PSV.
It is pragmatic in that the philosophy aims to score so many goals that even if you concede goals you win. It’s not pragmatic in the “calculating, biding our time” way of going turtle defense with a hope of lashing out once or twice and making those few chances count, no matter how boring and ugly it looks. That would be PSV. Or an Italian team.
Sit-back and give Ajax possession on your half and hope for a few chances to be succesful? Yeah, that will end well...Please do!
Expecting Tottenham to go and try to win midfield and play the pressure game too, or they’ll get surgically torn apart time and again if they turtle and play for the counter, soaking up wave after wave of attack.
Ajax is all about “Moar offense” even if you lead 4-0, even if you’re playing “the bestest team ever”, the goal will always be to score as many as possible. Looks like you’re confusing Ajax with PSV.
It is pragmatic in that the philosophy aims to score so many goals that even if you concede goals you win. It’s not pragmatic in the “calculating, biding our time” way of going turtle defense with a hope of lashing out once or twice and making those few chances count, no matter how boring and ugly it looks. That would be PSV. Or an Italian team.
So, I'm assuming if Spurs get through Kane would be available for the final?Sitting back and playing on the counter is not the same thing as "parking the bus" or playing with a packed defence. It's simply a recognition that we are without Son or Kane and therefore it doesn't make sense to focus our game on attack.
But in the 2nd leg, with Son back - and possibly even Kane - and with away goals counting double, it would be a different story.