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Ivan Reichitic
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any excuseSounds like a grade a wankstain. feck him, in that case I’m delighted it was Gini and Origi who scored the goals that knocked his side out.
Nah, have no problem with them, but what we do not like is this:Is this true @No Idea For Nickname? Do you guys hate dwarves?
I was going to write something about him being Croatian and it being unsurprising. Didn’t know he was born in Switzerland though.
Such views would be pretty common throughout the Balkans.
So, one guy said something stupid, and whole country and region are labeled as such?!So, is Croatia an especially homophobic country or did ol' Ivan just turn into a bigot cnut on his own?
So, is Croatia an especially homophobic country or did ol' Ivan just turn into a bigot cnut on his own?
He lived in Switzerland
I see, well, all him then I guess. Bizarre things to say eitherway.
Pure gold.To be fair, his immigrant parents would have plenty of impact on his views.
Such views would be pretty common throughout the Balkans.
Yep you got it.Nah, have no problem with them, but what we do not like is this:
So, one guy said something stupid, and whole country and region are labeled as such?!
Remember years ago, European championship 2004, Sweden - Denmark? Anyone? Oh yes you do remember it, I personaly loved reading Western European press saying "don't worry Italy, it is Scandinavian people, they won't play 2-2, you are lucky Italy, if that was 2 countries from Balkans, well, that would be 2-2, but not Scandinavians, no"
What was the result of the game? Yes, you are right. 2-2.
Should we all now, well, since 2004, think Scandinavian people are ...well.. not very nice or fair? No!
There are idiots in every street, every city, every country, but it does not mean that whole street, whole city, whole country are idiots too.
I think it was a quote from 2012.Man said dwarves knowing Messi is his teammate.
I asked, I didn't state anything.Nah, have no problem with them, but what we do not like is this:
So, one guy said something stupid, and whole country and region are labeled as such?!
Remember years ago, European championship 2004, Sweden - Denmark? Anyone? Oh yes you do remember it, I personaly loved reading Western European press saying "don't worry Italy, it is Scandinavian people, they won't play 2-2, you are lucky Italy, if that was 2 countries from Balkans, well, that would be 2-2, but not Scandinavians, no"
What was the result of the game? Yes, you are right. 2-2.
Should we all now, well, since 2004, think Scandinavian people are ...well.. not very nice or fair? No!
There are idiots in every street, every city, every country, but it does not mean that whole street, whole city, whole country are idiots too.
Yeah, I noticed just now. Lucky for him it's coming out just as there are talks of him leaving Barca.I think it was a quote from 2012.
Good for you!I asked, I didn't state anything.
Guess I'm racist against Croatian people nowGood for you!
Why wouldn't you expect it from him ?Didn't expect this from Rakitic. Fits in perfectly with Suarez.
Messi will ask the Barca board to sell him soon.
Yep, nothing to do with decades of ethnic and religious conflicts in the regions and homophobic laws that were upheld by referenda within the region. It’s entirely based on what a Swiss guy of Croatian background said. Well deduced.Nah, have no problem with them, but what we do not like is this:
So, one guy said something stupid, and whole country and region are labeled as such?!
Remember years ago, European championship 2004, Sweden - Denmark? Anyone? Oh yes you do remember it, I personaly loved reading Western European press saying "don't worry Italy, it is Scandinavian people, they won't play 2-2, you are lucky Italy, if that was 2 countries from Balkans, well, that would be 2-2, but not Scandinavians, no"
What was the result of the game? Yes, you are right. 2-2.
Should we all now, well, since 2004, think Scandinavian people are ...well.. not very nice or fair? No!
There are idiots in every street, every city, every country, but it does not mean that whole street, whole city, whole country are idiots too.
Chill. I don’t think anyone is implying that. You can’t really deny that discrimination is more prevalent in that region that others.Nah, have no problem with them, but what we do not like is this:
So, one guy said something stupid, and whole country and region are labeled as such?!
Remember years ago, European championship 2004, Sweden - Denmark? Anyone? Oh yes you do remember it, I personaly loved reading Western European press saying "don't worry Italy, it is Scandinavian people, they won't play 2-2, you are lucky Italy, if that was 2 countries from Balkans, well, that would be 2-2, but not Scandinavians, no"
What was the result of the game? Yes, you are right. 2-2.
Should we all now, well, since 2004, think Scandinavian people are ...well.. not very nice or fair? No!
There are idiots in every street, every city, every country, but it does not mean that whole street, whole city, whole country are idiots too.
Gay, black dwarfs that bald early?Wonder what he thinks about people that are beginning to go bald prematurely..
Fair enough if he's changed his views but I don't get how things like this can be a misunderstanding. Barring "what are the complete opposite of your views on gay players" I cant think of a context that would lead you to say something like this if you didn't mean it.Since his 2012 comments have resurfaced, it is only fair to bring up his 2014 follow-up statement:
Source
I got the translation off of Reddit, but this is Google Translate's translation of the key paragraph:Opened the article and saw it was in Croatian. Do you know it or you used google translate?
Daniela Carriça"It's not true that three years ago I said I would never share a gay dresser. It was a misunderstanding. I'm an open person and I have no problems with gay players. I'm open to sharing a dressing room with anyone who is a good person and a good player, and sexual orientation is not important to me, "said Rakitić, who, in the May celebration of the European League conquering, kissed Daniela Carriça in the mouth.
This was the question that led to the answer in that 2012 interview:Fair enough if he's changed his views but I don't get how things like this can be a misunderstanding. Barring "what are the complete opposite of your views on gay players" I cant think of a context that would lead you to say something like this if you didn't mean it.
Note: Rakitic's answer in Spanish:ORIGINAL: Hace un año, la FIFA multó a Vlatko Markovic, presidente de la Federación de fútbol croata, por declarar que “de ninguna manera podría jugar un homosexual en la selección” y que “afortunadamente, el fútbol sólo lo juega la gente sana”. ¿Has compartido vestuario con algún jugador homosexual? Que opinas al respecto?
Google Translate: A year ago, FIFA fined Vlatko Markovic, president of the Croatian Football Federation, for declaring that "in no way could a gay man play in the national team" and that "fortunately, football is only played by healthy people". Have you shared a costume with a homosexual player? What's your opinion about it?
I don't know why he answered it this way. He could have kept it with, "I respect homosexuals, and they should be able to play the game," and that's it. This is one of those instances where being unnecessarily open left him in a bad position. Still, the fact that this is being resurfaced in 2019 without his follow-up in 2014 is ridiculous in itself. People have to be given the complete picture before coming to a judgement (no matter how bad we are at judging people).Respeto a los homosexuales, pero no quiero a esa gente en el vestuario. No me marcharía de un equipo por eso, porque respeto igual a un homosexual que a un negro, un gordo o un enano, pero de ser posible prefiero no tener a gays en mi vida.
Do elaborate..He's an asshole. But many people on here are not making the compelling case about it, they think they are making.
Well people see what they want to see unfortunately.This was the question that led to the answer in that 2012 interview:
Note: Rakitic's answer in Spanish:
I don't know why he answered it this way. He could have kept it with, "I respect homosexuals, and they should be able to play the game," and that's it. This is one of those instances where being unnecessarily open left him in a bad position. Still, the fact that this is being resurfaced in 2019 without his follow-up in 2014 is ridiculous in itself. People have to be given the complete picture before coming to a judgement (no matter how bad we are at judging people).
Racists never change. They pretend not be racists anymore if it will help in their careers. For example, i suspect all those people in the Redcafe that we see in this kind of threads making excuses are fellow racists. When this kind of behavior do not make you angry, when your first instinctive reaction is to look for an excuse, it tells me everything i need to know.No. Ignorance isn't an excuse and i'm not excusing him for his comments either. I do however believe that people can change and that tweets like that don't help the situation when they omitt details of when this was said (7 years ago) and the later comments he made in 2014. Do we know if Rakitic is being sincere in the 2014 comments? No, but i'd like to believe in a world where we can act on reconciliation and education of ignorance. A lot of people that make these sort of comments do not understand why it is a problem at the deep rooted level and I think educating them as to why is the only thing that will make them realise, aside from the obvious.
Look at the post above yours. The thread is full of this shit. Even those critical of the statements often showcase racism and homophobia themselves. It's tiring to read, really.Do elaborate..