Ole Gunnar Solskjær | 2021/22 Discussion

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You make it sound like Solskjear is a decent manager, he's not, Mark Hughes is better than him, David Moyes is better than him, Sam Allardyce is better than him.

Conte is still out there available.
You are supporting the wrong club if you think we play manager roulette every few months because of results.
 

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We're backing him. Obviously. He's not even had a pre-season. This thread is ridiculous.

Go support Palermo or something if you think sacking the manager is the solution at every bad turn.
 

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Back him

Four managers cannot all be the wrong choice. It's down to these set of players
 

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There's no choice really.

If Pochettino became available and wanted to come i'd go for it but that's not going to happen. So we need to stick with Ole and hope that the first few games of his tenure are more indicative than the last few.

I can't say i'm optimistic.
 

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He's been taking the slack for other peoples mess' this season.
I don't know if Ole knows the right players to bring in or not, but the last thing United need is to be looking for a new manager when the transfer window is such a short one.
 

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Did you miss the reports this week regarding Lingard from a tier 2 source at the club?



So yeah, I think he is ruthless and he knows who needs to go and who should stay but why don't we just wait and give him a chance to prove that he can do it instead of shooting the guy down before he's even got close to a chance.
So why did he play Lingard this week? Didn’t he say you won’t be seeing some of these players last week?

I don’t care what your tier 2 bullshit source says. I’d believe it when I see it. At the moment his faith is in the shite British core we got at the club mainly because of their nationality not their abilities.
 

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Let's sack the 'fans' first. Fair weather fans.

Its pathetic that you lot are calling for his sacking. We would be worse that Chelski on their worst day.

Never had time to implement his systems, not had one player brought in and you are asking him to be sacked? A club legend nevermind four defend managers have failed.

What a bunch of hysterics and knee jerkers.
 

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How can people even ask a question about sacking the manager who did nothing wrong?
Do you remember the team he inherited?
Don't you know how toxic the dressing room is?

He came after years of neglecting of the United way in to group of ego's and some players who, although good lads, had no confidence in the team.
Solskjaer must be given time to make this all right. People saying they want Pochetino in would throw him under the bus if he doesn't fix it all in 3 months time.
Ole Gunnar Solskjaer is our manager, back him, give him time he needs, let him kick out Pogbas of the team and people who don't contribute, playing staff as well as non-playing staff that may be detrimental to our success, let this man run the club and results will follow. 3 years is minimum he needs, our club has sunk really low and if we keep changing managers every few months we'll sink lower and lower.

Back the club and stop being glory hunters. There is no quick fixes in football. Sir Alex made it look easy but it's not, it took years of work and you only got to see the finish product of what he made. Most of you anyway, you forget the hard times.
 
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Lads Pep and gone to three leagues and taken over. It’s not by accident. Wake up!!!!!! Great managers get you to the top.
 

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If we on a beach chasing top four, what were a team who had been relegated for months doing last week? So you right he can’t motivate these players and we not going to sign a new squad of 16 players. So if he can’t motivate the group, what do you suggest?
Get rid of the players we can and bench the rest. Utd need to get out of this cycle of player power and giving contracts and pay rises to players who haven’t earned them. If they don’t want to play for United then sell them and move on.
 

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I didn’t see your answer though.. so I can’t take that view on board.
Solskjær appealed to the weak mentality our players have when he was appointed. Told them they were all wonderful and deserved to be at United, which they probably needed to hear post Jose. Then they started getting complacent and some of them were phoning it in so he gave them a bollocking and singled out the individuals that weren't performing well enough. After that they just reverted to the shithouses they are.

They're weak and crumble over the slightest criticism. Hence all this social media bollocks they do, all the affirmation that they're brilliant from kids online. They need that because the reality is they're shit on the pitch and they can't handle being told that.
 

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I think this is true. Would Poch come now though? I think he wanted to before...not so sure now
Poch is talking about needed reassurances from Levy about a plan and a structure to take Spurs forward and match his ambition. These talks will take place after the CL final. If they don't go well, Poch's going to leave, and I'm absolutely certain we'd snatch him up and let Ole go.

Poch would be given the assurances he wants and would gut this squad, plus he'd be paid a lot more money and have access to a lot more money here.
Poch will face the same problem with these current bunch. You think they can play the way that Poch wants them to?

Give Ole another half a season, at the very least. Give him the transfer window to get some of the players who are stealing a living out of the club, and get in players who are willing to bleed for the shirt. As someone said, if the football is still dire and he still starts the likes of Young and Jones, then yes, sack him in December.

The night is darkest before the dawn.
The issue people have is no cofidence in Ole at this level and the level we aspire to. With that, transfers, staffing, coaching, knowledge is all under the cosh before we consider the pitch. A proven manager does not have these issues and I think people would be willing to give someone like Poch more of the benefit of the doubt to get things right and follow a proven process.

Pochettino would gut this squad, not sure Ole will or even has permission to.
 

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Let's sack the 'fans' first. Fair weather fans.

Its pathetic that you lot are calling for his sacking. We would be worse that Chelski on their worst day.

Never had time to implement his systems, not had one player brought in and you are asking him to be sacked? A club legend nevermind four defend managers have failed.

What a bunch of hysterics and knee jerkers.
What the feck is wrong with Chelsea? They're about to win the EL and are playing CL football next season. They've also won the PL much more recently than us. It's time to come to terms with the fact we are not any different to any other football club. None of that mes que en club bullshit.
 

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Makes literally zero difference. Until the club structure is sorted and there's a coherent plan for going forward we're in a cycle of hiring and firing and managers having to do with completely unbalanced squad assembled by 4 different managers. We need a strategy looking beyond the next manager, without it it doesn't matter long term who is currently hired.
 

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If he hadn't been appointed on a permanent contract, he would have been let go perfectly fairly right now, and that would have been an utterly just parting of ways.

Pochettino has been speaking a little strangely the past week or so, almost as if he would like the United job to be honest.

At the moment, I really want Ole to succeed, but part of me thinks I want this almost out of politeness and not hurting his feelings, having been given the contract. Certainly wouldn't be pushing for him to be appointed based on the last few matches, yet ironically I believe if he hadn't been appointed permanently the team would be top 4 now.
 

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If we’d appointed somebody relatively unknown who had exactly the same results, but wasn’t a united legend in his playing career, they would be sacked in my opinion.

We can’t afford to let Ole’s brilliance as a player save him from criticism/sack as a manager
 

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Let's sack the 'fans' first. Fair weather fans.

Its pathetic that you lot are calling for his sacking. We would be worse that Chelski on their worst day.

Never had time to implement his systems, not had one player brought in and you are asking him to be sacked? A club legend nevermind four defend managers have failed.

What a bunch of hysterics and knee jerkers.
Get rid of the players we can and bench the rest. Utd need to get out of this cycle of player power and giving contracts and pay rises to players who haven’t earned them. If they don’t want to play for United then sell them and move on.
This and this. Unbelievable how some fans are.
 

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Jesus fecking Christ. What a bunch of ‘fans’ we’be got. Truly worthy of the owners.
 

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Back him

Four managers cannot all be the wrong choice. It's down to these set of players
It’s a different set of players. Unless you want to list the players that have survived 4 manager. We can then dig a little deeper and find out they just got contract extensions ;)
 

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If we back him that’s another season lost with hundreds of millions down the drain.
 

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So why did he play Lingard this week? Didn’t he say you won’t be seeing some of these players last week?

I don’t care what your tier 2 bullshit source says. I’d believe it when I see it. At the moment his faith is in the shite British core we got at the club mainly because of their nationality not their abilities.
:lol: Alright then, don't believe it, do whatever you want.

People get their knickers in a twist when someone gets picked or when someone doesn't get picked, he literally can't win when it comes to team selections.
 

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We've seen the new manager syndrome at every fecking club. Why cant fans see through the honeymoon period? Getting an untested manager was a gamble and its clearly not working out
 

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2 wins in 12 will get you sacked in even a bottom half team even if the players are shite. At United you get 300m to confirm that fact
 

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WTF!!!!

This is a knee jerk reactions thread if I ever saw one.

Get a grip, we need to give the guy at least 2 transfer windows before we judge. I admit my view has changed of him but we cannot get rid of him already. Get fecking Woodward OUT if anyone needs to go..
 

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So why did he play Lingard this week? Didn’t he say you won’t be seeing some of these players last week?

I don’t care what your tier 2 bullshit source says. I’d believe it when I see it. At the moment his faith is in the shite British core we got at the club mainly because of their nationality not their abilities.
It’s not just the shite British core that have got us here.

Pitiful Yank owners
Prima Donna Frenchman
Butterfingers Spaniard
No legs Serb
Moody Frenchman striker
Overpaid Chilean
 

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It shouldn't be particularly difficult to grasp that neither the players nor the manager are good enough. That being said the usual Solskjaer defenders seem to be pretty accomplished at turning this simple task into rocket science.
 

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I hate myself for saying this but... who's even available? We need a special manager to improve the team. Not just a name.
 

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Lads Pep and gone to three leagues and taken over. It’s not by accident. Wake up!!!!!! Great managers get you to the top.
I agree. Klopp and Pep got backed, but they showed a promising first season. If you are a great manager, you get things right. Ole doesnt, so people come up with a lot of excuses. Too many. The form is Cardiff level, if he cant get this bunch playing at a decent level and motivated, seriously, he is completely useless.
 

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What’s the point in giving him money to bring players if he doesn’t even have a defined style?

Sack him right now, if we keep him next year we will be in a worst position next year.
 

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Let's sack the 'fans' first. Fair weather fans.

Its pathetic that you lot are calling for his sacking. We would be worse that Chelski on their worst day.

Never had time to implement his systems, not had one player brought in and you are asking him to be sacked? A club legend nevermind four defend managers have failed.

What a bunch of hysterics and knee jerkers.
Hope ED will send you a personal top fan medal, because there’s no substance there at all.
We all know he’s a club legend, we all like him, but we’ve been atrocious the last two months, lowest we’ve been in decades.
There’s no indication he knows what he’s doing whatsoever, couldn’t turn this around for two months.
At a proper big club like Madrid or Barcelona the fans would be protesting with torches outside OT right now, instead of clapping the lads off in their “lap of honor”
Feck this sentimental tacky crap.
 

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It shouldn't be particularly difficult to grasp that neither the players nor the manager are good enough. That being said the usual Solskjaer defenders seem to be pretty accomplished at turning this simple task into rocket science.
agreed. Probably the same ones who kept with Moyes and Jose until it was undependable. We are appointing the biggest idiots of managers all the time. Moyes, Van Gaal, Jose and Ole are nowhere near top managers or worthy of giving that much time. Sign Poch and if he cant do better in a year or two, i would agree that it isnt largely or for a big part the manager's fault.
 

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Back him.

Were all angry at the moment understandably so, especially given what's going on with city and the scousers, and the terrible form of the last couple of months.

He deserves a chance to shape his own team, he has a squad of players that all belong to the previous 4 managers not one of them has he signed.

He needs to be ruthless though, no half measures, put a marker down I'm the boss, if he is, and I hope to god the board back him properly, he's got a chance.

Watching that shit today, whilst my city supporting wife is cheering downstairs was heartbreaking tbh.

This is our biggest summer since fergie retired we have to get it right.
 
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