Then what stopped inspiring him then Sherlock? Or was it more the new manager bounce and wanting to prove Mourinho wrong then Ole kissing his ass at every opportunity? This bottlers do not need an arm around their shoulder, they need a bollocking.
Ole Gunnar Solskjær | 2021/22 Discussion
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Back him IMO.
Would like to see what he can so after a whole summer.
Would like to see what he can so after a whole summer.
Was comparing the Norwegian league with the Scottish, not the PL.
I said a "weird" German guy with an attidude and strong character. Klopp may fit that description to a point. But the guy I'm thinking about is a little bit more weird if you know what I mean.
What was Jose doing when he gave Pogba the captaincy then?
So if Ole has this Plan A and the players are actually to tired to play it well - does that make it okay that he has a subpar plan B?
Money and the project. This job could certainly be sold to most managers.
Not happening though, Phelan just got taken on so back Ole through this window and hope he, Phelan, Carrick & co. know what makes a United player.
Sack
Make a poll please
Make a poll please
To be fair, bottlers do feck all when you give them a bollocking, that's why they're bottlers.
This run started before his appointment as permanent manager and the signs were there even before that.
I would have to say sack him I would rather he left on his own terms however
So Ole removed his arm from around his shoulder the last few months ?
It got us to exactly the level of their own ability :
Moyes a 7th place manager as his record suggested finished us in 7th.
Van Gaal improved us and made us borderline top 4 and won an FA cup, which was about his level for the last 10 years of his career
Mourinho improved on that with a Europa League and League Cup win, got us 2nd (still being Guardiola's little bitch as he was at Madrid) and then had his massive 3rd season meltdown as he did at Chelsea.
I'd say we performed exactly how we should've expected to under each of those managers. That was their limit and thats what they achieved with us.
If he cannot motivate the players and figure out some tactics now why should he be able to do it the fall? It is not like we are buying 7 new players, the squad will be quite similar.
Woody and the owners are of course much bigger problems than Ole's lack of experience.
Ole will be sacked within 12 months.
Woody and the owners are of course much bigger problems than Ole's lack of experience.
Ole will be sacked within 12 months.
So Molde, under Solskjær, beating Celtic 3-1 and 2-1 (away), doesn't count then, i guess.
I think you meant "Football success at other clubs is down to right managers being given time to build their team.". I constantly see comparisons with Klopp but it's just very lazy comparisons. One has basically built a team that won the Bundesliga against Bayern while performing well in Europe as well, playing some of the best football in Europe. While the other one's biggest qualification for a United job is "club's legend". We just managed to find someone worse than Moyes, how can people not see it
The best man for the job is managing in the Champions League final. Ed Woodward was too cheap to pay to get him. Paying 40 million pounds for Poch would have been the best transfer we had in ten years. We continue to live in the past bringing back past players trying to relive past glories that are long gone. We need a purge not only on the pitch, but right through our whole scouting and player development departments. We have a club build on pieces from the SAF, Moyes, LVG, and Mourinho eras still at our club. We need a defined approach both on and off the field.
We love you ole but you're out of your depth. Sack.
Beyond all else, there's a huge friction in our fanbase right now between those who want to support Ole because he's a club legend and those that don't want to support him because he has no managerial credentials. It sucks.
Too right. With Klopp or Pochettinno at least you know they have the pedigree and an identity to match. Phelan is holding Ole's hand in tactics and training drills apparently, he's out of his depth here.
What do you mean it’s not weaker? It’s the 23rd best league in Europe according to UEFA rankings.
Steve McClaren won a Dutch league and knows the club, should we hire him after Ole?
Sure, money is a useful tool to get top managers, but would he want to work under these owners?
None of these managers took over mid-way through a shit show of a season where we were on track to finish out of the top 6, and did not buy any players that fit their style of play though.
Sack him now please.
Such a shame Tuchel wasn't sacked by PSG.
As I say, anything can be sold to somebody. All depends how they sell it.
Not happening though.
They say they support him because he will come good. For some reason ...
Your a lost cause mate, you don't know where United will be stop saying it like it's all factual. Let's see what this summer brings and if we step up next year.
Nope, you're not discussing what i said in the previous post anymore, dude.
Someone said that SAF won the Scottish league with Aberdeen, and i said winning the Norwegian with Molde (first time in their history), is equal to that.
Not saying we should hire any manager who won stronger leagues. Don't twist my words, please.
Exactly. Some people wanna get f....d without getting penetrated.
Relegation form. Next season is going to be terrible. Poor Ole.
I mean I'm all for giving manager time but he literally got the job on the back of results and now people are trusting him with this rebuild as if this was some kind of long term plan by the board. "Let's see what he can do with his own players". Why would we ever put ourselves in this situation?
If we're being honest, if he was some random bloke from Norwegian league with the same pedigree, everyone would want him out of the club. Of course the players are the problem too, which is why having the best possible manager is critical at this time and we went with someone with no experience at the top level. I would be lying if I said I have faith in him being the right man for the job
If we're being honest, if he was some random bloke from Norwegian league with the same pedigree, everyone would want him out of the club. Of course the players are the problem too, which is why having the best possible manager is critical at this time and we went with someone with no experience at the top level. I would be lying if I said I have faith in him being the right man for the job
Sack him right now, clueless. We'll get relegated with form like this.
You don't need to be any genius to know what will happen. Blatantly obvious.
That's clear.
And fair. The only reason the current run is not a sacking offense is that it's not his team. If it were, the likely conclusion would've been that the manager has lost it, or that the players have stopped playing for him, or a combination.
What truly baffles me, though, is that so many on here have just decided to ignore the factual context and jump to the conclusion that what we've seen in the run-in is the real Ole. Never mind that he's had no window, never mind what he's said himself about fitness and his preferred system. Just ignore all that and treat what this particular group of players, in these particular circumstances, end up producing in terms of performances as a fair test of his managerial ability. It's unreasonable, to put it diplomatically.
Sad to say it’s obvious the players don’t want to play for him. He can’t change the whole squad, and he’s terrified of dropping the big names.
He’s out of his depth. Let’s face it, if Utd didn’t employ Ole then outside his home country who would? I think he’d struggle to get employment at Championship level, let alone competing against the likes of Pep, Klopp, Poch etc.
Easy to blame the players but the manager must take the buck, no other Utd manager would get away with it.
He’s out of his depth. Let’s face it, if Utd didn’t employ Ole then outside his home country who would? I think he’d struggle to get employment at Championship level, let alone competing against the likes of Pep, Klopp, Poch etc.
Easy to blame the players but the manager must take the buck, no other Utd manager would get away with it.
Its going to be brilliant
You can't sack a guy before he's even brought in one player. That'd be top of our list of stupid decisions, even above the Moyes fiasco.
It’s funny. Fellaini was actually one of our better players. Let that sink in.
They should be shown the door on the next opportunity then.
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