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Television Game of Thrones (TV) • The watch has ended

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That episode managed to be really fun and enjoyable but incredibly stupid at the same time.

Euron vs Jaime being the height of that stupidity.
They didn't even have to make up that ridiculous shit, they could have him die on the ships while trying to take down the dragon. It would have been more fitting for him, an Iron Born, to die in the sea.

But I'll be honest, apart form that I thought the episode was very good and delivered greatly.
 

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That episode managed to be really fun and enjoyable but incredibly stupid at the same time.

Euron vs Jaime being the height of that stupidity.
Along with taking not one but two spearings through the midsection would have surely resulted in death quite soon thereafter, and certainly have rendered him unable to move much. Wasn't like Jamie was jabbed with a friggin pocket knife. But there he is walking around barely injured seemingly.
 

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I think that picture says more than a thousand words about recent episodes. Often it's not even the broader direction they take the story (like having Varys turn on Dany first and getting executed for treason) which is the problem, but the fundamental dumbness to the writing.
 
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Jon has to be one of the dumbest main characters of all time. Every move he makes always ends up as the wrong one, he really is captain stupid.
 

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Jon has to be one of the dumbest main characters of all time. Every move he makes always ends up as the wrong one, he really is captain stupid.
My favourite Jon Snow moment was when he took a suicide squad with him beyond the wall because he wanted to prove to Cersei that the threat from the dead was real. What a guy.
 

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Did anyone else think Arya got too much screen time? I'm sick of the sight of her, she's not even that interesting.
 

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On the plus side, onion man has made it to the last episode. You wouldn't catch him burning people alive.
 

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And where the hell is Bran, he was built up as some sort of over powered character but has done feck all.
 

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No matter the outcome I want an alternative ending of Tyrion being awakened by his father from a drunken coma with a whore in his bed, empty chalices around, and having dreamt the entire thing.
 

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On the plus side, onion man has made it to the last episode. You wouldn't catch him burning people alive.
Saw someone say that Davos in her place during the escape would've been carried much more weight. He grew up in King's Landing, he'd be seeing more children being burned to death. It would've crushed him and sad Davos would've crushed all of us...

He threw in an odd one out in his leak so no one would become suspicious.
There are lots of r/freefolk posters in here, it's a sub for leaks as well as memes so it's safe to assume we'll have a few more "timeline" feckers over the course of the next week.
 

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Fecking hell y'all don't half like a moan! Thought it was good. Not upset with anything I've seen this season tbf....
 

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Went from liking Dany to thinking she is a right fecking cnut. Anyhow, my main bone of contention was how fecking easy it was to destroy the entire iron fleet in a matter of minutes when a few days before it literally battered the dragons to death under a siege of flying spears, yet this time the ships just sat there and literally fired two, maybe three of them. What happened to tons of them raining down?

Apart from that, the rest was pretty awesome.
 

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Wasn't he jailed by Stannis at one point? How did he manage to get out again?
He was freed after he promised not to attack Melisandre again. Then he freed Gendry and was about to be executed before he brought up the WWs issue and Mel said he was needed.
 

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Or the iron fleet not having the fecking scorpions ready like seriously you guys have one job.
Aye, all the scorpions instantly became absolutely useless. They forced the dragon to back off literally last episode after slaughtering another one of them.

This episode the dragon was just flying through scorpions like they were nothing .. which makes sense, hitting a flying, shooting target would be nigh on impossible.

But like, make your minds up showmakers. Don't so blatantly change shit based on plot convenience. If it was that easy to take out the fleet, Dany would have done it immediately after last episode and prevented the destruction of her own fleet and Missandei's death.
 

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Went from liking Dany to thinking she is a right fecking cnut. Anyhow, my main bone of contention was how fecking easy it was to destroy the entire iron fleet in a matter of minutes when a few days before it literally battered the dragons to death under a siege of flying spears, yet this time the ships just sat there and literally fired two, maybe three of them. What happened to tons of them raining down?

Apart from that, the rest was pretty awesome.
Super duper lazy plot convenience. The writers needed a dragon to die last episode, they didn't this one. That's the only way that you can actually rationalise it.
 

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Aye, all the scorpions instantly became absolutely useless. They forced the dragon to back off literally last episode after slaughtering another one of them.

This episode the dragon was just flying through scorpions like they were nothing .. which makes sense, hitting a flying, shooting target would be nigh on impossible.

But like, make your minds up showmakers. Don't so blatantly change shit based on plot convenience. If it was that easy to take out the fleet, Dany would have done it immediately after last episode and prevented the destruction of her own fleet and Missandei's death.
Yup, last episode Dany was flying about without a care in the world which led to her losing a dragon. This episode euron decided to do the same. It's like the writers keep forgetting they are supposed to be at war.

Also why did Daenerys go mental and start killing innocents rather than go directly towards the red keep. When you are angry at somebody you dont take detours to punch people in the face.
 

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Aye, all the scorpions instantly became absolutely useless. They forced the dragon to back off literally last episode after slaughtering another one of them.

This episode the dragon was just flying through scorpions like they were nothing .. which makes sense, hitting a flying, shooting target would be nigh on impossible.

But like, make your minds up showmakers. Don't so blatantly change shit based on plot convenience. If it was that easy to take out the fleet, Dany would have done it immediately after last episode and prevented the destruction of her own fleet and Missandei's death.
I assume we are meant to think the combination of ambush and Dany being protective of Drogon is the difference between fecking Euron's attack in episode 4 and episode 5. Dany expected and compensated for the scorpions is, I guess, the thinking.
 

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I assume we are meant to think the combination of ambush and Dany being protective of Drogon is the difference between fecking Euron's attack in episode 4 and episode 5. Dany expected and compensated for the scorpions is, I guess, the thinking.
We had a scene where after they saw the dragon they put the bolt in the scorpion which is the dumbest thing ever. In total the whole iron fleet fired what, one arrow? After raining tens last episode.
 

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I assume we are meant to think the combination of ambush and Dany being protective of Drogon is the difference between fecking Euron's attack in episode 4 and episode 5. Dany expected and compensated for the scorpions is, I guess, the thinking.
Ambush? They were preparing for a siege. They know she has a dragon which could attack anywhere, there's zero excuse for all those ships not being manned and ready the entire time.

The iron fleet just got a massive nerf. Had they been ready and had the reload power/numbers they did in the original attack, the dragon dies as soon as it gets near.
 

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I assume we are meant to think the combination of ambush and Dany being protective of Drogon is the difference between fecking Euron's attack in episode 4 and episode 5. Dany expected and compensated for the scorpions is, I guess, the thinking.
Also she flew from out of the sun which made her more difficult to see I think?

But in reality it was a case of the writers needing a dragon to die in the last episode but also needing Dany to win in this episode, so logic gets twisted to fit what they want.
 

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Went from liking Dany to thinking she is a right fecking cnut. Anyhow, my main bone of contention was how fecking easy it was to destroy the entire iron fleet in a matter of minutes when a few days before it literally battered the dragons to death under a siege of flying spears, yet this time the ships just sat there and literally fired two, maybe three of them. What happened to tons of them raining down?

Apart from that, the rest was pretty awesome.
I enjoyed the narrative. Dany had to go full on mental it was the whole destiny.