It absolutely wouldn’t though, the average managers from smaller clubs would shit their pants here like Moyes did, someone who’s been at this club for so long is more qualified even even based on that alone, but as I’ve said we can only speculate.
Ole Gunnar Solskjær | 2021/22 Discussion
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The phraseology you use here in asking shows that you're not convinced yourself that it is realistic meaning he doesn't fit the question asked. He might be attainable but no one knows as of now.
sadly this is true. Even during the winning run our performances were - broadly speaking - getting less and less impressive as the run continued.
I've run out of excuses for him as well the recent run has been absolutely shambolic but surely some of you are not being serious when you are saying we should sack him right now? That would literally make us the biggest joke in sports.
Sacking Ole now would cause our summer window to be even more shambolic than our season. What player will want to come to a manager'less club (no way we'd appoint someone so quick after sacking Ole; which will delay transfers). That was one of the main reasons in appointing him so we could get our summer business started nice and early. I'm holding back #OleOut until December, and I think we all should. People say why let this incompetent guy spend £300m? Well sacking him and not appointing someone instantly will be just as bad for our summer, we wont get anyone in. Ed didn't wait until May now we have to back our manager, unless its for Pep, Klopp or Poch everyone is a risk to sack Ole for. We had managers with plenty winning experience, didn't count for shite in the end. Everyone just take a step back and BREATHE! lets wait and see, we all know Ed isn't scared to sack people if its going tits up!
No problem. I'll pull your posts in October and November when we see the results of your support.
I hope you don't complain after another season is lost - I mean this is what you want to give Ole a shot isn't it?
Most people (including our own supporters) don't seem to appreciate the magnitude of this club. Managing United is a different beast compared to your average club management job. This club is huge, you can't understate the importance of understanding the environment and nature of working at Manchester United for a newly appointed manager. This is where my doubt about names like Howe, Nuno, Rose and ten Hag succeeding here stems from.
Since people can get behind Moyes and Ole I don't think Conte of all people will be a problem.
If you want an inexperienced manager - Ten Hag - someone with clear ideology and style, who also actually done much more than Ole so far.
You can't just make that blanket assumptions just cos Moyes was shite. Just cos someone was here as a player 20 odd years ago (and who presided over a relegation the last time he managed in the PL) it doesn't make them a better shout than someone who has actually managed successfully in the PL.
eh? Well unlike others on here I don't state things that I don't 100% know as fact. But what we can surmise from his recent comments is that Poch may well be at a point where he feels he has taken Spurs as far as he can go, and could be up for a new challenge. If it wasn't for that winning run a few months ago we would surely be testing that out.
Firstly I said not Poch, he is not a realistic target, not sure many times I need empathise this...
So in a different version of reality, Ole is still caretaker come the end of the season, but is not given the job, and few days later these are the list of names you put forward as the next manager for the club and fan base to get behind, a ex city & a ex Liverpool manager and the rest, bar Howe have only had roughly a season in the league and never won anything of note in their career.
Okie dokie
Spot fecking on. We've seen empires collapse due to wrong management and people who shouldn't manage be put on top.
United is not Molde, Burnley or Everton, yet people don't realize that.
Look at Real, the reigning European champions and the biggest club on the planet. After Zidane quit, they hired Loptegui (getting him removed from the Spanish side at the World Cup in the process), sacked him in October, brought in Solari, sacked him in March, then brought back Zidane. They still finished as runners-up in La Liga. Perez may be everyone's cup of tea but he doesn't hesitate to act in the interests of Real.
There's one thing that jumps out at me now the dust has settled on the season. When the club made him permanent - prematurely, IMO - one of the main reasons put forward was that players at the club and potential signings would need to know who the manager is going to be before committing themselves. In that time we, based on what has been reported, have made no progress on deals for DDG and Mata, have lost Herrera after the negotiations fell down and haven't, unless we've gotten anything up our sleeve, signed anyone, or seemingly have any deals waiting to be signed. It doesn't make the decision to hire him, having initially suggested that Poch was the unanimous choice, seem any more clear-headed.
Is that better or worse than backing the wrong guy with £200 million in transfers and then having to sack him before Xmas anyway? (not saying that will definitely happen, but our run of form suggests it is a possibility)
Madrid did exactly the same thing a couple of months back and no-one batted an eyelid.
Ed would look a twat - but who cares about that?!
So your trying to tell me Pochettino wasn’t realistic? Who do you think you support Everton?
I answered your question but unless your moving the goalposts your probably jumping on your realistic point. Therefore look above.Hello Stupid, maybe read my question again. Clown
At the end our summer clear out will consist of Herrera, Pogba, Martial and DDG. Job well done. At least we will keep our captain.
So what to recent shambolic performances and all the losses show us? We can't praise him for the good results and blame the players for all the bad, it's a cop-out.
Yes but that is an awul comparison to make. First of all they work entirely different than us. They can literally attract whatever player they want even after a very bad season. We don't have these type of luxuries and we have Glazer's and Woodward. If they sacked Ole now what on earth would ever make you believe they would then somehow miraculously make it right?
God help us. I just hope the stars are inlined that if this goes badly Tunchel might be out of a job.
Yes I clearly said Poch is not realistic..even if he was he is not in the equation of the question being asked.
I am sorry if this is the reality being presented to you outside of your marathon FM sessions..
Look at my reply to @Moriarty further down. The Madrid comparison is a terrible one.
What, we've dropped so far that we can't sign players because we're no longer attractive? We're Manchester United and players will always want to come here. That has always been the case. It's not about fees, it's about identifying and bringing in players who will fit the system, whatever that is. United is still a huge draw.
The caf wouldn't want him. Has he ever played for United?
How can you say with any degree of certainty that Poch is definitely not a realistic target? He was in the papers literally 2 days ago implying that if Spurs don't match his ambitions he will leave. And Madrid ain't an option for him just at the moment.
The list I gave was managers in the PL that had better CVs than OGS. That's just the PL. And last time I checked 'having only had roughly a season in the league and never won anything of note in their career' is still more impressive than never having won anything of note in their career and relegating a club then getting sacked in their only previous PL experience.
Seriously? Real now have Zidane back. Apart from Barca who will offer better challenge for him?
He hinted that he can leave. Who will want unsettled manager, he's not Kane. If he wants to go he will.
Depends who they appointed. If, for instance, it was Pochettino I think most prospective players would think 'now there's a club that are putting right their mistakes and are really serious about getting back to the top of the tree'. I would expect most players have got grave doubts about the direction that United are taking at this precise moment in time.
What’s so great about Tuchel?
I swear, this guy is the new Bielsa, so overwhelmingly overrated.
Fair point but Moyes was recommended by the previous legendary manager and if not for Ole's great start with that run without defeats, I'm sure everyone would have been calling for his head now. He hit the ground running and got everyone on board. Even his biggest sceptics admired the great start to his tenure (except Ince who could have done it, too).
As for ten Hag, coming from Ajax where the whole club structure seemed to be tailored for him, I fear he might be out of his depth at the present United.
Also the level of craving for success at United right now is such that immediate results would be expected from any big name we sign like Conte. This is why I think a relatively inexperienced guy like Ole is better. He has the advantage of knowing the context at United and also his status as club legend should buy him some time as he lays down the foundations before the fans turn on him. In my opinion, he's the best attainable gamble right now. BAck him and re-evaluate next summer if we still do not see any semblance of ideology and style he's trying to implement.
Obviously back because he won't be sacked and not backing him would be stupid
OMFG, stop it with Poch. He is not part of the equation, whether you wish to argue how realistic he is. Simple. Pep was more realistic years back and we never got him, so was Klopp..etc
Yes, we all know and can all name managers that have more experience and better CVs than Ole, few actually put forward names they would like to see as the boss though...bar Poch
I agree about Pochettino but we are not getting him so forget that. Then what we sack Ole and bring in who? I don't see a single manager out there at the minute who could come here and work under Woodward and suddenly make things look vastly different. If there was someone out there like Klopp or Pep for example then yes but right now there isn't really anyone.
I see a lot of people who say we should sack Ole mention Poch but it's just pointless because he's not going to come here right now. There is also no way Ole is getting the sack so we just have to wait and see how this turns out. Either it will come good in time or a massive shit show like all the last ones we hired.
You are obviously very ITK, so I bow to your superior insider knowledge ;-)
We're Manchester United, why the feck are we giving permanent appointments to people with shit CVs?!
You said Poch is unrealistic for no reasons except it makes your argument crap. I don’t play FM your not talking to your Fortnight mates.
He's one of the top bracket, below the best options. Wouldn't mind him at United, considering who we just hired. Quite liked his style at Dortmund and his work at Mainz. He won't put us as title contenders, but either way it will be a tough job straight away for any manager who isn't Pep, etc..
He has a good eye for talent bringing Weigl, Pulisic, Guerrero, Castro, Dembele. All in all if we can't get a top manager and he's sacked from PSG Tuchel would be a very good appointment.
Surely you don't think the top players out there would prefer us at the minute over the other big clubs given our current situation? Yes you are right about bringing in players to fit the system etc but what has Woodward done so far to show he's capable of doing that? What manager do you want to come in here that could work closely with Ed and make us title challengers?
Yup and you are obviously another fan with one functioning brain cell that can only compute the trail thought:
"Sack Ole, Sign Poch" We Manchester United"
Sack Ole, Sign Poch" We Manchester United..."
Same applies to you
Have I missed something where Poch has come out and said he wouldn't join us? Or have United come out and said 'we tried for Poch but he wasn't interested'? Cos all I can remember in recent weeks is the interview that Poch gave literally 2 days away when he was publicly saying he may move on if Spurs won't match his ambition...
Could Ole's great start be due to the players getting some confidence back and just putting a pressure free performance under a new manager whoever he was? Why it has to be on Ole, yet after things actually mattered and he failed spectacularly we have to dish out on the same players that got him the job and yet he will be off the hook?
Yeah with someone like ten Hag you have to be patient, but the biggest point and draw should be to create that structure first. I'd welcome him, along with a structure like that. It's not unrealistic either. VDS and Overmars didn't create it decades ago it will only need few years.
Conte is an excellent manager, despite many complaining about his style.
PS: We need a manager but we moreso need the structure. Backing up Ole won't get us that structure, because it will be the same old shite we have witnessed so far. Neither the supposed project with Carrick and Phelan.
Resorting to insults is not a good look.
Not being able to answer a simple question and needing to twist it to the answer you want to give is worse
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