I can only assume a large proportion on here are 12 years old. The man hasn't made any signings yet or started a fresh season after having pre season with the team. We cant continously sack managers and hope for any improvement. The guy is also a club legend and deserves a proper chance and some respect.
What’s the reasons for keeping Ole?
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Can’t believe this thread was entertained for 3 pages.
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1. Not 12 but nice bit of childish name calling- something a 12 year old would do
2. No signings but what we have seen is massive regression from when he took over with no style of play being developed
3. Yes let’s stick with terrible managers, great idea. We could be watching the 7th year of Moyes next season with that attitude
4. Being a club legend doesn’t mean we let him manage this club irrespective of results
I'm not reading through this, but one thing:
Too many average players.... Not really his fault that
Too many average players.... Not really his fault that
This is similar what's been said every summer for the last 5 years - and yet Spurs have signed players - 'elite' talent or not - who've mostly worked out better than those signed by United. Why is this summer going to be any different?
It's not so much about 'elite' talent: it's more about signing round pegs for round holes, signing players with the right attitude and signing good players who can be coached into becoming better.
Pochettino is likely to have much more spending power this summer than he's ever had before at Spurs, even if this is less than he'd get at United. Moreover, he's repeatedly spoken about his commitment to the long-term project at Spurs, and more recently how that project is ahead of schedule. His relationship with Levy is very close and they have a detailed, agreed plan for continued progress from here onwards.
Regardless of the outcome of Saturday's match he isn't going to be leaving this summer.
Great name calling there.
Yes, we should begin hiring crap managers giving them 3-4 years with the hopes of making it, that would do better. 6 years contract bonus if they have played for United as well.
Can we at least give him one transfer window and see who he brings in before we even contemplate discussions like this?
There's this obsession with getting a "big name" manager all the time but none of those has worked. Surprising right? Now we try someone different and he's being hounded out before he's even opened the door.
There's this obsession with getting a "big name" manager all the time but none of those has worked. Surprising right? Now we try someone different and he's being hounded out before he's even opened the door.
All of a sudden, we have a load of players incapable of beating cardiff and barely drawing against huddersfield! Funny how these were quality players when we went on a 14 game unbeaten run! Ole himself said it was a privilege to work with these players. The narrative has changed back to these players are crap! It's worrying to see how clueless he was last few gamesI'm not reading through this, but one thing:
Too many average players.... Not really his fault that
We are keeping him because he is manager of Manchester United.
Understands what that means.
Needs to be backed by supporters.
Given a chance to build his own team with his choice if players, present and future.
If he fails after being given a chance to create his own team, then he'll be judged not before.
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This thread is a joke, give ollie a chance. He's in the job only a wet week, he hasn't had a chance to buy any players or more importantly get rid of all the players who are finished and the players who were never good enough in the 1st place. He hadn't had a preseason yet. Ollie is no fool, he knows the form the last 2 months was car crash and unless we start the season with a bang he'll be in trouble. What I would like to see is a proper team system of play, exciting football which we can built on over the next season or two. Replacing managers every other season hasn't worked, we're way off the top at the moment and it will take time to get back, but we will. Hopefully ollie can guide us in the right direction but he deserves his chance.
Mods really need to be more strict on this forum.
This is an ex forum.
1/2 out of 3 ain't too bad.
No it was easy.
Those who got irrationally carried away should question whether their enduring support is just more of the same emotional reasoning.
Agree with original post. This Ole at the wheel business is a fecking joke. And a laughable mistake.
Problem with this is if he fails to bring in the right players, the CAF will blame others at the club. Wait and see.
Explain further? Are you suggesting only pro Ole threads should be created?
We really are living in a sentimental precious era
The replies on this thread are encouraging. Shows the fans are backing Ole.
Well that’s not true it’s mixed at best- some aren’t just blindly hoping & actually looking at the poor form & lack of credentials & any style of football being implemented.
However I’m sure everyone, like myself, will support Ole & the team next year for however long he remains in charge - I just believe it’s a stupid decision but doesn’t mean I’ll stop supporting the club of course so of course he’ll be backed in that sense by everyone
For the last time, give the man at least one transfer window
No. I just think your topic is BS.
I think we should have waited for the season to end before we signed him. April and May are the traditional business end of the season.
However the club chose to sign him early. Maybe they wanted him focused on the summer ahead rather than on contracts, after all it's not like we have a DoF who should be providing oversight of all things football at the club who could have picked up any slack.
Maybe they didn't have better options. Forum talk is all good and proper but on Sunday Poch might be the manager of the European champions. Why give that up for our basket case of a club?
It's all speculation I suppose. What we do know is that a mixture of injuries, poor form and players downing tools two months early led to a team which was creating. Scoring and winning - to become consistent losers who looked like they didn't even want the ball.
Ole can't be blamed for that. Now we have offered him a role its imperative we stick with him through the summer as he's stated he's going yo change personnel and give him an opportunity to sink or swim with a team he can call his own.
It won’t be different if we don’t have a manager that plays attractive football and knows how to motivate our players to perform at a top level unfortunately. These players I listed for United are top players and under a good manager they would perform better than the one Spurs are targeting.
Sudden changes can happen in football with great leaders and good managers. We have seen it at Chelsea, Manchester City and other big and small clubs. I don’t know why United fans keep saying how we need 100 years to get to where we are suppose to be. The honeymoon period showed that sudden change is possible, we just need a good manager to motivate these players to consistently perform similar to how Klopp, Pochettino and Pep does with their players. I don’t believe the top two are light years ahead of us. They just have a better footballing philosophy and managers. If United implements Pochettino attacking philosophy and adds a few quality players, we would up there challenging for top honors.
I corrected the evaluation as I see it. No way, Eriksen is better than Pogba. Shaw is better than Rose as well. Rose is very weak in defense and offer little upfront, I don’t think he he has scored in two years. Martial in top form is as good as Son in top form. It is just that our football is so bad, that we are struggling to play as a cohesive unit and show that. With Pochettino, we would have definitely challenged because having a top manager with a good philosophy with four-five quality additions would see sudden improvement.
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Because we gave him the job on March 28th and it's only May 31st?
Ouch..
I'd swap Son for Martial. Son is consistent and talented. Martial is talented on paper. His performances on the pitch are few and far between.
I think that is a bit harsh to be honest.
When he first came the football was the best since SAF. The team were getting confidence and Ole pushed them to see what he could get out of them. He didnt have enough time to turn players around and improve fitness levels as well as identify the players that need to move asap + the in fighting over wages and contract negotiations of so many senior players contracts running out and players like Ander agreeing a deal with PSG etc.
We were all living the impossible dream anyway, the fact that we got our season turned around should have been enough after Mourino's slump and just missing out on CL was exciting as well as disappointing. The stadium came alive, the atmosphere when we played Barca at OT was like the days of SAF..Electric!
If he can reproduce that energetic fast passing and scoring with 'HIS' players then I think we will all be happy with the exception of a few who seem to think Pochitino would have us challenging for the league title in his first season.
I say give Ole and the players some time and proper support, who ever we sign. For even if we had a different "top shelf" manager, it might take 2 or three seasons to get the right players and playing in a style that not only makes us competitive again, but also a joy to watch, no easy task.
We are too far away from the pinnacle now, so we can afford a few initial losses if we can see a team of new and existing players in a system that is actually improving and trying new things.First passing and shooting, then, Perhaps set pieces and spreading out on the pitch?
There are so many areas we can improve upon, address these and we should be right behind Ole with belief as well as support.
Getting upset because we are not the best will not help our current situation.
The team and the manager needs us at home.
The united away fans are exceptional, there are no better fans on the planet, thats why we play better away than at home.
We the match going fans must shoulder some responsibility for the season too. I've personally been guilty of apathy too many times this season at Old Trafford. Im going to make a point of singing a bit louder next season, and try and amplify the atmosphere instead of allowing it to drizzle away with sighing at shocking passes whilst waiving my hand upwards in despair. No More.
C'mon you reds!
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Club legend
Nice guy
Will get the players playing to a high level
Doesn't have experience but the players will know better then to "throw Ole under the bus" as they will be called out before him when we ain't playing well.
So well worth keeping but we have to back him for at least 2 transfer windows which I got roasted for saying when we had that end of season bad run.
Nice guy
Will get the players playing to a high level
Doesn't have experience but the players will know better then to "throw Ole under the bus" as they will be called out before him when we ain't playing well.
So well worth keeping but we have to back him for at least 2 transfer windows which I got roasted for saying when we had that end of season bad run.
I cant disagree with any of your points but i don't mind him staying.
My optimism lies with him investing in youth and getting the right players in. The squad needs a complete overhaul. If he invests well then it won't make much of a difference at what stage another manager comes in - hence the desire for a good DOF.
But if we go into the new season and we're still giving minutes to players with no longterm future, then he'll lose some of the patience given through the idea of it being rebuilding process.
My optimism lies with him investing in youth and getting the right players in. The squad needs a complete overhaul. If he invests well then it won't make much of a difference at what stage another manager comes in - hence the desire for a good DOF.
But if we go into the new season and we're still giving minutes to players with no longterm future, then he'll lose some of the patience given through the idea of it being rebuilding process.
What should we do?
I think he’s shown good resilience to be honest, there is simply no way a manager can be blamed for players in the middle of an incredible run of form falling off a cliff after the best result of the season. When you see it’s largely the same players that barely moved for the first three months of the season and have failed badly under previous managers of totally different styles it’s fair to say there’s a fundamental problem he should be allowed to try fix. We know for sure he puts the club first, looks to attack, and though Woodward might fail us miserably the players we are linked with seem to suggest a new approach to signings.hes also seemingly looking to dump lukaku having already sold fellaini. They were big money signings, certainly lukaku, so he can make tough decisions.
It’s been reported he has set incredibly high fitness tasks, players not travelling on tour if not fit enough, looking to promote some youth and linked with De ligt, Sancho, James, wan Bisakka, and other young players suggest he’s looking to have us play at a new intensity.
He has a squad in absolute chaos with contract disputes, unhappiness and guys like Sanchez going through the motions. It’s a monstrous job and if we hired pochettino where instant success would be expected like Jose, it’s a recipe for failure. Solskjaers job is to rebuild the culture of the club and leave it in a better position
It’s been reported he has set incredibly high fitness tasks, players not travelling on tour if not fit enough, looking to promote some youth and linked with De ligt, Sancho, James, wan Bisakka, and other young players suggest he’s looking to have us play at a new intensity.
He has a squad in absolute chaos with contract disputes, unhappiness and guys like Sanchez going through the motions. It’s a monstrous job and if we hired pochettino where instant success would be expected like Jose, it’s a recipe for failure. Solskjaers job is to rebuild the culture of the club and leave it in a better position
Knows the club
I think it's only right that we the fans get behind Ole and the lads at least until we've conceded the first corner of the new season, then we'd be fully justified asking for him to be sacked.
Well you asking a fcuking stupid question.
Well you asking a fcuking stupid question.
As I'm happy with Ole in charge and I have faith in him, Poch's Spurs has relegation form in the last 10 games, Chelsea and Arsenal also have awful form, Ole is only behind Klopp and Pep in Ole's league.
If our 10 last game form still continue next game, I think United should make a quick act before it's too late.
If our 10 last game form still continue next game, I think United should make a quick act before it's too late.
Well if you could get your head out of your ass. You would have noticed that United played good in several matches. Then some was won with luck then boom the form drops just when it's alot of contract being renewed at the club. And also sence smalling, young and Jones got extended to 110k per week something that was done without Oles approval. The rumour are that several other players wanted a raise as well sence 3 piss poor players got that much the ones that did the good playing had less. And players like Herrera De gea and such couldn't understand why they did not get a raise.
Ole is trying to stop the wages madness in the club. He sat down the foot and want have a same kinda system the club had before and like City have. The best earn this. The second best that much. Squad players less. And up and coming much less. If not it fecks up the wardrobe. So Ole said enough is enough some will go because of it but it's one of the things that needed fixing. So add that to a stable in piss bad running form, injuries and no other manager would done better.
Ole have a very funny philosophy. But he needs a preseason. He needs some of his own players. And he will need the same in January. Sad thing is that Jones Young and smalling had new contracts cause impossible to sell then.
Also Ferguson was not a star manager when he was hired. And many wanted his head on a plate for the first seasons. But he stayed true to his ideas and look what he achieved.
I'd say united is in a worse state now than when Ferguson took over united. Moyes, Van Gaal and Mourhinio really did not care about united for them its just a club. For Solskjaer United is life. Even thou he's son don't want to move away from Norway he still said yes to united for united is life.
I'd say united is in a worse state now than when Ferguson took over united. Moyes, Van Gaal and Mourhinio really did not care about united for them its just a club. For Solskjaer United is life. Even thou he's son don't want to move away from Norway he still said yes to united for united is life.
Should hire Pirlo before someone grabs him up.
Wot, no lock?
Stop bitching and give the manager his first window and pre season ffs.
Toxic.. these kind of threads.. Ole is the Man United manager and will be heading to his first full season as a manager for the club. That is the reality, independent of the feelings of fans who criticize that decision. Let the man implement his ideas and tactics and half way through the season one can evaluate the potential progress. Come may one can reach conclusions. Until then, let’s make a conscious effort to spread (some) positivity back (on the doom and gloom feelings around here). Ole had a good sprint when his managerial career started here, but had to endure the road blocks towards the end of the season. He has now experienced the high and the lows of being a United manager and has hopefully learnt from it in order to start with a clean sheet come next season.
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