TypoPSG play in a shit league, crap standard and joke club. Barca fair enough, we could offer a good pay package and development as the main man at the back. United aren't in a good place at the minute but still a huge club, shouldn't dismiss us.
Nice.
PSG and Barca cover everything he might go for though.
The quality of football in the French league is the bizzare point. It's comfortably one of the worst. Especially if you're playing for PSG, as a centre back you may as well have a picnic at the back all season.
Yeah I thought so too, founded 1970 lad.
He'll have a good manager and one of the best CBs out there to learn from. He'll develop fine enough. When was the last time anyone developed brilliantly with us?
Why do people keep saying that? French league isn't as bad as Holland, come on.
No he won't, because he will play in a league where the quality is very comfortably below La Liga and Premier League. Training means little if you can't get practical experience week in week out.
Not really, it was renamed in 1970, it used to be the Stade Saint-Germanois but that's irrelevant.
So all these french and Ligue 1 based players that are bought every year by big clubs didn't have the opportunity to actually improve? The PL is filled with former Ligue 1 players that learned and developed their trade in that shit league.
The phrase, "can't polish a turd" comes to mind actually.
Operating in a league better than the Dutch league isn't a barometer of development when you aim to be the best in the world. That's fact. If he wants to develop he wouldn't go to the French league, it's blatantly Raiola and $ driven. As you said he will be along side such world class players that the gulf in talent between his side and the rest of the cack league is even larger. So he's probably ultimately going to sit back and chill out for 75 mins a game.
Most of these players were not playing for PSG . Playing for a team like Lyon or Lille means every match is much tougher. Playing for PSG means almost every game is a stroll. Is there any other top league where the season is decided so early? Who is the last PSG young player that improved their game there and was bought by other big clubs?
Verratti, Mbappe, Marquinhos, Kimpembe, Aréola, ... were all young when they got into the first XI and mightily improved. They would improve almost any side in the Premier League - the fact that they didn't go to another club yet doesn't change the fact that they improved in France.
The shitting in Ligue 1 is in full force since he's been linked with PSG, I see. As if United has such a great track record of developing young players recently
You forget he's 19 and a CB. He isn't reliant on pace and PSG style is much more common to him than ours. If he comes to United he has to adjust to our style(whatever it is or if we have one) and pretty much different culture than France. If your argument revolves around PSG being so far ahead of the pack then what will be the difference to going to Barca? He will be rotated there, they are way ahead than anyone else bar Real and Atletico and will still chill for 75 mins a game.
I struggle to find the "appeal" of being part of a restructure. We have been restructuring since 6 years and getting managers with polar styles leading to nowhere and ending up in worse position since restructuring. Mbappe and Neymar are hardly forgotten mate. The latter had an injury that took him out for half of the season.
That's a fair point. Players like Depay should have done better though I felt. Who knows what managers like Klopp could have done with him.
Mbappe has only played in France, and at PSG is operating in a side that dominates lions share of possession in the oppositions final third. Of course he'd rack up more goals and assists there. I think the player at Monaco was individually just as unplayable as the one that we see at PSG.
It just amazes me that some people (not saying you) take offence at his choice. Players don't think like fans, they generally don't care about "a challenge" or "being the guy that brings United back to its former glory", unless they have some special connection with a club. Why should they? They want to win trophies and rake in money, both of which can be achieved at PSG. It might be a red flag indeed that players want out of PSG but struggle to do so, but if he simply runs down his contract he can choose to do whatever he wants when he's 23 or 24 years old, which is still incredibly young for a CB.
Yep! But then again I believe our club and the PL means something in the grand scheme of things. The French, and to an extent the Spanish league are a joke. His best place for development right now is England, he only has to look at Van Dyke to realise that.
The season is generally decided at the same time than other leagues, at the exception of the 2015/2016 season and 2018/2019 seasons and even then the same things have happened in England, Italy and Germany in the last 5 seasons. And all young PSG players have improved, they are not bought by big clubs because PSG aren't selling.
Lo Celso has been doing pretty good at PSG last year before loaned to Betis. Now he's subject to 50-60m+ transfer.
Van Dijk came into the Premier League when he was 24 years old.
And look at him now!
The Premier League last season was decided by New Year, and the one Chelsea won under Conte was sealed by March as well. So yes, it frequently happens.
Not really true, considering he's coming from the Dutch league. He won't have a massive jump and get to play with some great players and learn from players like Thiago Silva. He'll also get to go pretty far in the CL and they were extremely unlucky to go out this year to us.
Oh yeah. Liverpool crowned themselves champions at new year, I’d forgotten that
It's mind boggling. PSG first team average age is lot less than ours. They have constantly improved teenagers over the last years and often give a chance to youngsters. We play Ashley Young out of form instead of giving chance to youth product.
