That's actually pretty much the norm I don't know why people like to single PSG out. Ambitious clubs simply don't let their best players go unless they absolutely need to.
It's not the norm, valuable players rarely leave as free agents.
Ha, you don't know the guy. He's extremely ambitious and continually working on himself on and off the pitch. He worked with Troy Douglas (former sprinter) to improve his speed. He reads all these books about defenders, mental strength and so on. Frenkie joked about him that while he is nineteen, when you hear him talk, he sounds like a pensioner and has a monopoly on wisdom, and should relax. He's a teenager with the most games for the Dutch team ever and the youngest Ajax captain ever. The manager said he did that because he's a true winner.
Yes yes but he clearly isn't ambitious because if he was he would choose to come to Utd.
The norm is that the top players don't switch sides because they're not allowed by their clubs. That used to be only for the richest clubs but now also applies to the likes of Napoli and Tottenham.
The norm is that big players tend to be happy at their big club and don't want to leave.
Couthinho was from a big club?
Are you saying Liverpool is not?
They were a big club but not a top club at the time he left, still a team on the up.
They were the 3rd or 4th richest club in the PL and top 8 in the world, and reached the CL final 5 months after he left
That's not exactly what I meant though, they weren't viewed in the same vein as Barca when he left, their team wasn't seen as good. Currently their team has shown to be the best in Europe which is why I think they're a "top" club now, as opposed to when Coutinho left.They were the 3rd or 4th richest club in the PL and top 8 in the world, and reached the CL final 5 months after he left
Not a top club though
We were never seen in the same vein as Real Madrid for example but it doesn't mean we are not a top club.
I always take the top clubs to not only be big in terms of a commercial sense/financial sense but also be the best teams around. That's why I think "top" and "big" clubs are two different things, we're a big club but currently we're not a "top" one.
He already is a prime player, the fact that he's only 19 does not change that. One of the best in the world in his position.
Thank you, at this point it makes zero sense for any player of his caliber and potential to come to United save for money or some bizarre attachment to us while growing up. PSG blow us out of the water when it comes to money, plus they're much better equipped to win big prizes compared to us who is years off. Barcelona is a better bet than both but a) They're not gonna pay as much as PSG b) He'll have competition for his place there.
The Diaby they just sold?
I would like to point out that one good season doesnt make you a prime player, that comes from years of high standards.
Maguire isn't that bad IMO. He would improve us. I'd rather put our energy to more attainable players and get our business done earlier than the Ed panic buys come August.Thank you, at this point it makes zero sense for any player of his caliber and potential to come to United save for money or some bizarre attachment to us while growing up. PSG blow us out of the water when it comes to money, plus they're much better equipped to win big prizes compared to us who is years off. Barcelona is a better bet than both but a) They're not gonna pay as much as PSG b) He'll have competition for his place there.
He'll end up at PSG, all links to us have dried up. I remember reading in this very thread that he rejected our proposal straightaway, think it was Bouhafsi team who wrote that article. Let's abandon this thread and camp in the... Maguire thread
Yep. He'll be quality IMO for Leverkusen next year.
He should seek advice from Adrien Rabiot on the matter.
I simply disagree with that. Same goes for Salah last season, Kane when he first came through - all the "one season wonder" and "needs to do it over a longer period of time to be considered a top player" is just bullshit for me, when I see a top player it's a top player regardless of how long he's been doing it. Unless you think he'll somehow play worse next season of course (spoiler: he won't).
Leaving that prime player debate aside, I agree that a 19 year old on 340K is insane. And the worry is of course, when you renew, is that going to set some world record. Unless the whole football world sees a dramatic escalation in wages this could upset any club's wage structure and dressing room. The pressure the kid will be under, wherever he goes, will be enormous. Hopefully for him he shows everyone he's the best defender in the world for years to come.
Again all of those players you just named had a upward trend in their playing career. Kane came through the rank at Tottenham and was and rightly so questioned in his first season, after the second season no one had any reason to doubt him, plus he was playing in the PL not the Eredivisie. Salah was never a 80m and 300k signing for Liverpool and not even Klopp could have imagined the way he took his position at Liverpool. VVD was close to that price but his wages aren´t remotely close to 300k and he had english tax written all over him, plus he already played in the PL for years so people knew his strength from playing in a strong league.
Wasn´t 12m quoted here a while back? Thats around 250k. So not poor mans rate by any means.
Exactly. Also PSG will offer him even more increased wages in 2 or 3 years and he'll renew with them. It's fan fiction that he'll let his contract run out, if he valued club over money he'd go to Barca in the first place. It's not as if Barca is paying peanuts anyway, highest wage bill in all sports institutions.
Please tell me that is a piss take.
Well, United were worried he would become a bit of a chubster. Suppose this will prove them right. Sponsored fastfood for 5 years...
You are not going to hear anything positive about liverpool from me.
I was seriously expecting a punchline. This isn't a joke?
but to d they deliver snails and frog's legs? that may sound anti-french but both were on the menu in the two places I ate in paris recently and burgers/pizzas were not
Would you say it's worse than any human rights violator or how would you rank it?
It's a ploy to get De Ligt and his family to PSG. That's why Riola was in Paris this week, for the launch or lunch, depends what spin you want to put on it!
How about De Ligt ? He seems like a proper baller.
