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Marcus Rashford in talks with Manchester United over new long-term deal

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He’s too old now. Greenwood needs to start.
Ffs give it a rest. Rashford is 21 Ffs.

Rashford has pace to burn and talent to go with it. He is unlucky that he's at united when we're in turmoil. He should only be breaking into the team now but because of how bad united are and have been he has been thrusted into the first team much earlier than he should have been and has been given a big weight to carry.

What's football coming to if we're writing off 21 year old as too old
 

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Ffs give it a rest. Rashford is 21 Ffs.

Rashford has pace to burn and talent to go with it. He is unlucky that he's at united when we're in turmoil. He should only be breaking into the team now but because of how bad united are and have been he has been thrusted into the first team much earlier than he should have been and has been given a big weight to carry.

What's football coming to if we're writing off 21 year old as too old
He’s obviously joking.
 

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What has he done to deserve over 130 k? Isn't kane on 130 k?

Kane has done more in 1 month than Rashford has done in his whole career. I fuking hate our club right now. We are absolutely disgusting. How can I enjoy this garbage when we keep being dumb?
 

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If he/his agent are actually demanding wages that match the leagues highest paid players then I hope to God we tell him to do one.

Simply put, matt judge, or whoever does negotiate contracts must not give in. Personally I'd tell Rashford and his agent to find a top level club that is willing to pay his current wages aswell as his transfer fee.

Its nice to see a lad from wythenshawe play for us but he is no way near as good as he thinks.

I actually want him to go if these demands are true. He doesn't realise how fortunate he is.
 

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So poor decision making from a 21 year old footballer is proof that his ego is out of control? Ok. Sure. Gotya.

Also who cares what he spends his money on. He seems to be a fan of tattoos - and I’m not. Does that mean I should conclude his ego is out of control? All because I don’t like what he’s spent his money on ?
Big ego is what makes him think he has "made it" as a star, and spending times on tattoo/fashiom/whatever...instead of focusing on football 24/7. The times he spent on going to fashion show/salon...can be spent on more freekick practice. The times he spent on social media at night can be spent to read more books or football tactics to improve his decision-making, right?

Look at Ronaldo. The guy has one big "hobby" that is football. That is how he made it that far. Forget about the level between them, Rashford hasn't even been fit enough to lace Ronaldo's training schedule yet.
 

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if Sir Alex is incharge of someone like Rashy he'll told him to score 20 goals a season before coming back and asking for a new contract.
 

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if Sir Alex is incharge of someone like Rashy he'll told him to score 20 goals a season before coming back and asking for a new contract.
Forgive me if I'm wrong but isn't Rashford in the final year of his contract? I find it a bit difficult to believe that Fergie and Gill would've looked at a talented 21 year old striker and said to score 20 goals if he wants a new deal.
 

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The never ending cycle of mediocrity being massively overpaid so we can never get rid of them continues.
 

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I wonder what criteria they are in order to reach 300k?
Lets say:
- 150k base salary
- additional 35k per week if scored 20 goals
- additional 35k per week if scored 30 goals
- additional 40k per week if finish top 4
- additional 40k per week if winning a major trophy (Premier league, FA Cup, or Europa league)
 

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The never ending cycle of mediocrity being massively overpaid so we can never get rid of them continues.
This. If a 21 year who has had an absolutely average season can somehow get a deal like this what is the amount the next right winger or the attacking midfielder going to demand?
 

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As usual ManUtd fans are outraged without even reading the article.

‘The contract is understood to be heavily incentivised but if Rashford meets all of his performance-related targets and if United deliver on the pitch, it could be worth in excess of £300,000 a week.’
Just as a example, Lukaku has a performance bonus of 4.5 million if he contributes to 50 goals + assists. So who knows what all performance targets should be achieved by Rashford to get all the money, this is ignoring team performance bonus.
 

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As usual ManUtd fans are outraged without even reading the article.



Just as a example, Lukaku has a performance bonus of 4.5 million if he contributes to 50 goals + assists. So who knows what all performance targets should be achieved by Rashford to get all the money, this is ignoring team performance bonus.
I kinda of feel the club needs to emphasise these things so the narrative doesn't get out of hand. Why put such a misleading headline there? You just know they're setting up the lad for abuse when he has a bad match. People don't read beyond headlines and United need to counter that. It just creates more toxicity and I hate to repeat myself but sports is 50% mental - toxicity doesn't help performances.
 

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As usual ManUtd fans are outraged without even reading the article.



Just as a example, Lukaku has a performance bonus of 4.5 million if he contributes to 50 goals + assists. So who knows what all performance targets should be achieved by Rashford to get all the money, this is ignoring team performance bonus.
Ducker is such an asshole, click baiting the headline to get more clicks. He knew that majority of United fans will outrage.
 

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I kinda of feel the club needs to emphasise these things so the narrative doesn't get out of hand. Why put such a misleading headline there? You just know they're setting up the lad for abuse when he has a bad match. People don't read beyond headlines and United need to counter that. It just creates more toxicity and I hate to repeat myself but sports is 50% mental - toxicity doesn't help performances.
I sort of agree with you (not sure how it's possible btw) but the bold part says more about the fans who wants reason to be outraged.
 

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I sort of agree with you (not sure how it's possible btw) but the bold part says more about the fans who wants reason to be outraged.
It's society nowadays. A lot of people don't read beyond the headlines whether it's football or otherwise. This is why the press gets away with this nonsense. I wish the club would stop being passive about this. Criticise the players for legitimate crap, but this sort of vitriol just incites more fear. They don't just forget to play football, all this other stuff makes them more nervous. Yes you can be mentally tough, but this is calling for something else when a human being who has to perform in the public eye is constantly attacked. I can't imagine the comments he's getting on twitter.

I'd be so mad I'd post the terms of the bloody contract myself just to get people off my back and at least show the media up for their B.S. It's a vicious cycle when you have to perform with constant negativity.
 

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Fantastic news. He is a top, top homegrown player that has so much potential. Reckon he will have a big season this year.
 

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It's society nowadays. A lot of people don't read beyond the headlines whether it's football or otherwise. This is why the press gets away with this nonsense. I wish the club would stop being passive about this. Criticise the players for legitimate crap, but this sort of vitriol just incites more fear. They don't just forget to play football, all this other stuff makes them more nervous. Yes you can be mentally tough, but this is calling for something else when a human being who has to perform in the public eye is constantly attacked. I can't imagine the comments he's getting on twitter.

I'd be so mad I'd post the terms of the bloody contract myself just to get people off my back and at least show the media up for their B.S. It's a vicious cycle when you have to perform with constant negativity.
Yeah, only thing club can do is leak the contract and in player's favor to few journalists like few clubs do, when they report lot less wages (as they just report basic wages).
 

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Yeah, only thing club can do is leak the contract and in player's favor to few journalists like few clubs do, when they report lot less wages (as they just report basic wages).
I really think they need to start doing this seriously. What the feck does our PR department do besides promoting new sponsors I don't know. They should be on this right away. Talk about protecting young players and then they sit on their passive ass and watch all this misinformation shit go down. Are they so blind they don't see the negative effects?
 

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I really think they need to start doing this seriously. What the feck does our PR department do besides promoting new sponsors I don't know. They should be on this right away. Talk about protecting young players and then they sit on their passive ass and watch all this misinformation shit go down. Are they so blind they don't see the negative effects?
I might be completely wrong here but for some reason I believe they enjoy these news, sort of positive PR like "look how much we can pay". Maybe they think it's one of the good reason to attract better players.
 

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Established first-teamer and England international with lots of room to improve.
This is in principle nothing but a description of where he currently finds himself as a footballer. No doubt, he is more advanced at this stage of his career than Greenwood but he is still 'potential' in my eyes. Not good enough to be leading our forward line if we really wanna win the majors.
 
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Didn't see where Rashford signed a new one when I searched. I just saw that his wages increase each year he's been with us since then.
Yeah, I'm not sure whether he signed one more contract after 2016 but BBC reported his wages as 20K when he signed one in 2016. Also wages increasing year by year is a regular practice I guess, especially for the young players who signed their first contract.
 

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I kinda of feel the club needs to emphasise these things so the narrative doesn't get out of hand. Why put such a misleading headline there? You just know they're setting up the lad for abuse when he has a bad match. People don't read beyond headlines and United need to counter that. It just creates more toxicity and I hate to repeat myself but sports is 50% mental - toxicity doesn't help performances.
That's actually a very good point.
 

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I kinda of feel the club needs to emphasise these things so the narrative doesn't get out of hand. Why put such a misleading headline there? You just know they're setting up the lad for abuse when he has a bad match. People don't read beyond headlines and United need to counter that. It just creates more toxicity and I hate to repeat myself but sports is 50% mental - toxicity doesn't help performances.
Absolutely right. Loads of big clubs have PR teams to look into these things, I don't know why United even entertain these journalists or keep them briefed. Remove Ducker from briefings and you'll see a different side from it. Absolutely pathetic PR management from the club.
 

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Absolutely right. Loads of big clubs have PR teams to look into these things, I don't know why United even entertain these journalists or keep them briefed. Remove Ducker from briefings and you'll see a different side from it. Absolutely pathetic PR management from the club.
Our P.R is like our official website.
 

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As much as I like the guy and his work rate, he's barely a £120k per week player.
 

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I might be completely wrong here but for some reason I believe they enjoy these news, sort of positive PR like "look how much we can pay". Maybe they think it's one of the good reason to attract better players.
Whatever benefits they think it has doesn’t outweigh the negatives so I wish they would rethink that. It doesn’t help the players mentally. Maybe if they feel less negativity they might perform better and get results which would negate us having to ‘boast’ about how much money we have in order to attract players.
 

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If this is true it is one of the worst contract deals we have ever made. At a time when the absolute mess Woodward has made of our wage structure should be being cleaned up, we are offering up to 300k a week to a guy who has not kicked on from his first season and In terms of achievement and expectation personally I would equate it to offering 300k to young wes brown or Danny welbeck. Just pathetic from club to buckle to this and rashford had better expect more scrutiny than ever
 

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Whatever benefits they think it has doesn’t outweigh the negatives so I wish they would rethink that. It doesn’t help the players mentally. Maybe if they feel less negativity they might perform better and get results which would negate us having to ‘boast’ about how much money we have.
That was just my assumption and I agree with your posts. We should do much better in PR things, every contract is reported with every possible bonuses included which makes fans lose their shit.
 

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As usual ManUtd fans are outraged without even reading the article.



Just as a example, Lukaku has a performance bonus of 4.5 million if he contributes to 50 goals + assists. So who knows what all performance targets should be achieved by Rashford to get all the money, this is ignoring team performance bonus.
Likewise i think if you'd read the thread most are dismayed at him getting 200k plus incentive not the full 300k as base.

Like the lad needed more reason to be selfish though.
 

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Likewise i think if you'd read the thread most are dismayed at him getting 200k plus incentive not the full 300k as base.

Like the lad needed more reason to be selfish though.
200K + incentives, where exactly is his base salary reported?

Contract leaks showed Pogba earns 144K per week base salary and rest all are image rights, loyalty bonus and other bonuses.
 

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Rashford has been a 'prospect' for 2 seasons already. At what point does he actually need to start producing? Same as Martial, your ability will only et you so far, at some point you need to start producing week in week out, and especially in bug games. At the minute neither do.
 

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200K + incentives, where exactly is his base salary reported?

Contract leaks showed Pogba earns 144K per week base salary and rest all are image rights, loyalty bonus and other bonuses.
Image rights and loyalty bonus are his basic wage they're not an incentivised bonus for good performance on the pitch just because you split them out.
 

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I agree that the amount is depressingly ridiculous, but there are some on here who seemed happy to throw 300+k a week at de ligt :nervous:
You genuinely going to compare De Ligt to Rashford? De Ligt is looking like a real star in the making, in fact you could genuinely say he is already world class, he's a leader and he is just 19. Potentially a once in a generation player. Rashford.. well he isn't even the best young attacker at the club.

If Rashford played for West Ham there would be very little if any noise about him and he would be earning no more than about 40k a week.

By the way I think 300k is too much for De Ligt, but it's a lot more understandable than Rashford 200k plus..
 
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