Has political correctness actually gone mad?

[Eboue]

I like to spend some time in Mozambique
The sunny sky is aqua blue
None of the flag makers are bitchmade
It's very nice to stay a week or two
And maybe fall in love just me and you

 

[Jippy]

Yeah, I didn’t know Ross was a slave owner. I did hear that she used slave labour to make the huge flag.

Did you think she just borrowed someone else's?

 

[utdalltheway]

Did you think she just borrowed someone else's?

I wasn't sure how she came about to using them. They (at the American History Museum in Wash DC) didn't go into that, iirc.
I'm sure borrowing slaves and compensating their owners wasn't unusual.

Anyway, I might have been getting confused with that other flag maker, the one mentioned above by CR, Mary Pickersgill.
It's a huge feckin flag, the one in the museum.
I'm decent but not great, at US History. Still, not too bad for an immigrant that never had no skoolin in it

 

[Jippy]

I wasn't sure how she came about to using them. They (at the American History Museum in Wash DC) didn't go into that, iirc.
I'm sure borrowing slaves and compensating their owners wasn't unusual.

Anyway, I might have been getting confused with that other flag maker, the one mentioned above by CR, Mary Pickersgill.
It's a huge feckin flag, the one in the museum.
I'm decent but not great, at US History. Still, not too bad for an immigrant that never had no skoolin in it

How big is this flag that makes everyone still talk so much about it?

 

[Jippy]

It would definitely surprise me about Ross. I could be wrong, but I’ve never read it before, and she was a Quaker.

Mary Pickersgill, however, also made a famous flag, and was most likely a slave owner.

Both your best flags went racist- the confed and that betsy are miles better than your star spangly one.

 

[Carolina Red]

Both your best flags went racist- the confed and that betsy are miles better than your star spangly one.

Which two are you calling racist?

I mean, one is a given...

 

[Carolina Red]

How big is this flag that makes everyone still talk so much about it?

Huge. About 40 ft by 30 ft I believe. It’s on display in its own room at the Smithsonian Museum of US History.

 

[Jippy]

Which two are you calling racist?

I mean, one is a given...

Confederation and the Betsy one- the circle of stars is cool. Turns out that Mary Pickwotnot was a racist too.
Given everyone was racist then, shame the good flags got lumbered with the worst rep.

 

[Jippy]

Huge. About 40 ft by 30 ft I believe. It’s on display in its own room at the Smithsonian Museum of US History.

You can see it from space! It would be like rude man of Cern Abbas though- useless unless seen from afar.

 

[Carolina Red]

Confederation and the Betsy one- the circle of stars is cool. Turns out that Mary Pickwotnot was a racist too.
Given everyone was racist then, shame the good flags got lumbered with the worst rep.

Quit confusing/conflating Ross and Pickersgill. I’ve yet to see anything in the historical record that shows Ross as a slave owner.

 

[utdalltheway]

Back to Nike: I think they’ve fecked up.
I for one won’t be buying any more Nike stuff until I need new shoes.

 

[lynchie]

Huge. About 40 ft by 30 ft I believe. It’s on display in its own room at the Smithsonian Museum of US History.

Huge? Ha. You are like baby.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeddah_Flagpole

 

[Carolina Red]

Huge? Ha. You are like baby.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeddah_Flagpole

Childsplay
https://www.worldrecordacademy.com/...rld_record_set_by_Thomas_Ski_Demski_80382.htm

 

[lynchie]

Childsplay
https://www.worldrecordacademy.com/...rld_record_set_by_Thomas_Ski_Demski_80382.htm

Fair play, now that's a flag. (Not on the world's biggest flagpole, in the middle of a roundabout though is it?)

 

[Carolina Red]

Fair play, now that's a flag. (Not on the world's biggest flagpole, in the middle of a roundabout though is it?)

No, but it has been displayed on the Hoover Dam.

 

[Eboue]

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I don't want to wear any shoes that is costlier than 30 dollars.

 

[Eboue]

costlier I like it. I'm going to start saying that

 

[Eboue]

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Jesus christ. Buying sweatshop products from a massive corporation is patriotism and feminism now.

 

[Jippy]

Proper PC gone mad. You can now boycott Disney while wearing your non-Nike trainers.

 

[sullydnl]

Proper PC gone mad. You can now boycott Disney while wearing your non-Nike trainers.

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[crappycraperson]

I also read how the actress had to be red head too. Utter non sense, this wouldn't even be news if they had hired a white blonde to play this character.

 

[FlawlessThaw]

@RedPed must be fuming, his favourite Disney film ruined.

 

[Yagami]

Personally, when they do live adaptations of cartoons, I prefer them to look like their cartoon counterparts, too.

 

[2 man midfield]

Tbf wasn’t there a load of shit kicked up recently when an actress cast to play a black woman was considered to be just a little too white?

In other words, people care about this sort of thing but only when it affects their ‘team’.

 

[stevoc]

Tbf wasn’t there a load of shit kicked up recently when an actress cast to play a black woman was considered to be just a little too white?

In other words, people care about this sort of thing but only when it affects their ‘team’.

A few people got upset when Zoe Saldana played Nina Simone and others got worked up over the idea that Will Smith might play Richard Williams in a movie. Both were too light apparently, but to be fair they were or are playing real people.

This latest one is just a cartoon character in the grand scheme of things it doesn't really matter what colour the actress is as long as she's right for the role.

 

[2 man midfield]

A few people got upset when Zoe Saldana played Nina Simone and others got worked up over the idea that Will Smith might play Richard Williams in a movie. Both were too light apparently, but to be fair they were or are playing real people.

This latest one is just a cartoon character in the grand scheme of things it doesn't really matter what colour the actress is as long as she's right for the role.

My point exactly, who gives a shit?

 

[Mockney]

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[Ekkie Thump]

The travesty.

 

[2 man midfield]

It must be horrible for her to win that role, then have to read shit like #notmyAriel.

'Can she act?' is the only question that matters.

 

[stevoc]

My point exactly, who gives a shit?

I'm sure there are people out there deeply upset about it. Such is the modern world.

 

[Archie Leach]

The angry comment about Walt Disney turning in his grave probably wasn't wrong though.

 

[nimic]

The angry comment about Walt Disney turning in his grave probably wasn't wrong though.

The corpse of Walt Disney is furiously scratching a swastika into the inside of his coffin right now.

 

[shamans]

I dont care that much but whatever I will roll my eyes and watch anywya

 

[Jippy]

The corpse of Walt Disney is furiously scratching a swastika into the inside of his coffin right now.

I'm going to buy it just so I can put my foot through the TV in disgust when she comes on.

 

[MadMike]

My point exactly, who gives a shit?

If no one gives a shit then why change it? It's pretty clear people and companies do give a shit.

My personal opinion is that companies these days, Disney included, thrive on creating controversy as a means of advertising. Giving 0 fecks, in spite of their preaching, about creating a more cohesive society but trying to profiteer from discord instead.

I'm certainly all for more racial inclusion in Hollywood. I'm all for promoting more stories and more movies written, acted and voiced by people of diverse heritage. More Mulans, more Moanas etc. Simply replacing a character in a Hans Christian Andersen story with a black sketch and voice actor is pretty half-hearted and hamfisted attempt at creating diversity. And while I don't give a feck about what Disney do with their stories, I do care about its effects on the current political climate and discourse.

 

[Jippy]

Omg Scream has become more reflective of American society.

 

[nimic]

If no one gives a shit then why change it? It's pretty clear people and companies do give a shit.

My personal opinion is that companies these days, Disney included, thrive on creating controversy as a means of advertising. Giving 0 fecks, in spite of their preaching, about creating a more cohesive society but trying to profiteer from discord instead.

I'm certainly all for more racial inclusion in Hollywood. I'm all for promoting more stories and more movies written, acted and voiced by people of diverse heritage. More Mulans, more Moanas etc. Simply replacing a character in a Hans Christian Andersen story with a black sketch and voice actor is pretty half-hearted and hamfisted attempt at creating diversity. And while I don't give a feck about what Disney do with their stories, I do care about its effects on the current political climate and discourse.

Or, hear me out here, she was just the best fit for the role. It's only ham-fisted and half-hearted if you assume she got the job just because she is black, just because Disney want to create discord, just because they want to create controversy.

 

[sullydnl]

If you're going to make The Little Mermaid again you really do need to update it quite a bit regardless. Even when I was watching it as a kid in the 90's the "men like women who don't talk" type stuff seemed weird.

It would also be bizzare for a studio remaking a film in 2019 to keep the cast of characters as overwhelmingly white as it was in originals that came from a time when minorities were clearly underrepresented. I mean it would actually take effort, excluding whole throngs of talent from your film in a pointless desire to keep an utterly irrelevant detail the same. Why on earth would anyone do that?

 

[Grinner]

Do mermaids have ladyparts?