were do you see him ruling himself out?
Brucey to Newcastle
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never understood that nonsense. I'd take Pep in a heartbeat (not that Steve Bruce is Pep)
Possibly the only manager who's as bad a manager as the dickhead is an owner
The post you're quoting was from 2014.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/dec/31/steve-bruce-rules-out-newcastle-united
ha ha! if he had any sense, he'd do it again
Context or an example of what will slowly happen to us
Not sure I get the hate for Bruce here, he seems like a nice bloke, very professional, failed at Villa after getting cancer sure, but otherwise he's done a decent enough job at many clubs at least over the short term. He's also been responsible for a few |Championship promotions in his time. He'd easily be the best manager Newcastle could get unless they want to take a chance on a young nobody or promote one of their own coaches or something. Ashley being a total cnut and ruining the club is nothing to do with Bruce.
How long do we reckon he'll last?
Until the next club wants to offer him a job with more money
Actually, he has done a fairly good job in difficult circumstances, Hull for example.
Despite that, I don't see him as a top manager.
I think Crystal Palace for sure, and maybe Wednesday, will feel pretty let down by his tenure.
Difficult to decide, if he fails he can blame Ashley if he succeeds it will be because of his brilliance despite Ashley.
But
I don't think he will get much Investment to help him succeed while Ashly is there
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Good game good game
I think Bruce will do alright,if he does get the Newcastle job that is.
Bruce left Hull after a relatively long tenure and despite being well liked by the fans because of lack of investment and problems with the owners. Sure it’ll be fine at Newcastle
Tough to call. I wouldn't be shocked if he did well and had them 10th-12th at the end of the season. I also wouldn't be shocked if they're in the relegation zone and he's sacked some time between October and December.
I think managers only last 14 months on average anyway these days, if he lasted that long would that be decent? Still seems like a short period of time to me in a way despite being aware of the stats. Probably the Fergie factor.
I wouldn't say he's a bad bloke at all, was sniping at our fanbase towards the end of his tenure (was same at Sunderland IIRC) and obviously a fan chucking the cabbage at him was very regretable but think that was just his frustration at knowing he was going to be sacked shortly so looking to deflect blame.
Having watched his style of play for two years, he's a gritty safety first manager. On the face of it you'd say not the worst manager to follow Benitez but at same time not a very inspiring coach either considering he's spent the last 4 seasons managing in championship (similar to McClaren) and he's replacing manager who had aura of a top level one.
He's not long ball like a Pulis or Warnock but still likes to put many men behind the ball and just rely on individual quality in final third to win tight games, something Newcastle really don't have atm unless he can really get Almiron going.
Casebook for me was our failed play off campaign on 17/18. We did a very good job nulifying Boro over two legs, barely gave them a shot with Jedinak fantastic. My problem however was thinking we couldn't play same way v Fulham in the final as they'd just pass around Jedi.
If anyone remembers the game our mindset was so negative first half. We just sat back and let Fulham get their passing game going, second half we stepped things up but only had two shots on target in the end. At end of game SB came out and said he couldn't understand why we were so passive in first half. This is a game where you nearly have two weeks to prepare for so total nonsense from him given manager adopts the tone for these sort of games.
That's why he's never made the top level as a manager despite manging many seasons in premier league in last 20 years. Good at getting a underdog spirit going and motivating players but the style of play is far too static and conservative. That's a problem when he spends money and the level of expectation in fanbase increases.
Having watched his style of play for two years, he's a gritty safety first manager. On the face of it you'd say not the worst manager to follow Benitez but at same time not a very inspiring coach either considering he's spent the last 4 seasons managing in championship (similar to McClaren) and he's replacing manager who had aura of a top level one.
He's not long ball like a Pulis or Warnock but still likes to put many men behind the ball and just rely on individual quality in final third to win tight games, something Newcastle really don't have atm unless he can really get Almiron going.
Casebook for me was our failed play off campaign on 17/18. We did a very good job nulifying Boro over two legs, barely gave them a shot with Jedinak fantastic. My problem however was thinking we couldn't play same way v Fulham in the final as they'd just pass around Jedi.
If anyone remembers the game our mindset was so negative first half. We just sat back and let Fulham get their passing game going, second half we stepped things up but only had two shots on target in the end. At end of game SB came out and said he couldn't understand why we were so passive in first half. This is a game where you nearly have two weeks to prepare for so total nonsense from him given manager adopts the tone for these sort of games.
That's why he's never made the top level as a manager despite manging many seasons in premier league in last 20 years. Good at getting a underdog spirit going and motivating players but the style of play is far too static and conservative. That's a problem when he spends money and the level of expectation in fanbase increases.
If he was named Stefan Bruciola he'd be heralded as Houdini the great.
He'll be a good manager. So much better than last week's.
I like Bruce but any suggestion he's the best manager they could have gotten is just plain wrong in my opinion. They are paying a fee for him while managers like Claude Puel, Rudi Garcia, Gio van Bronkhurst, Ranieri and Quique Sanchez Florez are all freely available, all of whom I imagine would take it and all of whom i'd back over Bruce to do a better job.
Reckon Ashley thinks he can lay the law down good and firm with Brucey over a pint of bitter, be done with all these egotistical feminine suit wearers.
If you looked up "mercenary" in the dictionary, there would be a picture of his massive potato head right next to it.
Pretty long winded. He looked decent many years ago but he’s a rubbish appointment and a totally lazy one. Newcastle have gone backwards with this appointment. They should have took a gamble on a young progressive manager and not a lazy, unthought out appointment like Bruce.
Anyone taking that Newcastle job is spineless.
Sacked by Christmas. Relegated in April.
Or needs a job.
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Relegation candidates I reckon.
Wouldn't be surprised to see them as this years whipping boys. Can see a season akin to Sunderland 16/17 coming up.
They're toast, never seen a club put in more of an effort to get relegated.
Just resigned at Wednesday.
Why would any Premier League side hire him? He’s a poor manager.
Another cheap option for Newcastle!
Really has shit on Sheff Wed after they were good to him prior to him starting the job one month after being appointed
Really has shit on Sheff Wed after they were good to him prior to him starting the job one month after being appointed
Shite appointment.
They’re really not arsed are they.
If they’re just giving up stop being awkward and just give us Longstaff on the cheap.
If they’re just giving up stop being awkward and just give us Longstaff on the cheap.
Newcastle are so going down this season.
Could be a blessing in disguise for Sheffield Wednesday.
Chris Hughton is still available and would be a good fit for them I'd have thought.
Chris Hughton is still available and would be a good fit for them I'd have thought.
Maybe... if he plays his cards right.
Good question? Similar to how Mark Hughes and many others keep getting jobs.
PL clubs would rather go for a name, even if they've got a poor record than risk a young but potentially better option?
Very hard for potentially good managers who are smart and maybe bit different, but who aren't a big name former player to ever get a chance. Could there ever be an English version of Mourinho?
Better to be a big name player, than actually have any ability as a manager?
Football management is a really strange occupation.
PL clubs are some of the most unimaginative around when it comes to appointing managers.
Bruce is a proven championship manager and i think Ashley has absolutley zero intention of investing this summer.... Anticipating a relegation perhaps he is already planning for the 20/21 season by having Bruce there now.
That's Newcastle for the drop, isn't it?
Hopefully.